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UncleBuck

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So, "nuh uh" and a lame insult is your entire argument genius ?

If I'm defective, why can I articulate things and you stand around pissing your pants unable to explain why you think it's okay to threaten black people with force if they won't serve white people. Cat got your tongue, numbnuts ?
civil rights were passed because white people refused to serve black people because of their skin color.

for some reason you oppose civil rights though.
 

Rob Roy

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Nope. This has all been explained to you by many, dumdum.
Actually, it hasn't. Nice try though.

So, you are saying that you are okay with legislation which threatens force to black people for failing to serve a white person ?

You are okay with depriving black people with the freedom to choose their own associations, determine the use of their own property and body and if their choice is NOT to serve a white person, you want them arrested? Can you refute ANY of this? No, you can't.
 

UncleBuck

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Actually, it hasn't. Nice try though.

So, you are saying that you are okay with legislation which threatens force to black people for failing to serve a white person ?

You are okay with depriving black people with the freedom to choose their own associations, determine the use of their own property and body and if their choice is NOT to serve a white person, you want them arrested? Can you refute ANY of this? No, you can't.
why are you trying to rewrite history completely, klanman?

civil rights were passed because white people refused to serve black people because of their skin color.
 

Rob Roy

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yes you are, you oppose civil rights.

black people couldn't even travel freely before civil rights because racist white losers like you refused service to them.
So, what does that have to do with you favoring legislation which deprives black people control over their own property and their own body?

You haven't addressed your penchant for legislation which could force a black person to serve a white person against their will on the black persons own property no less.

Don't they teach you anything about argumentation at those Klan meetings you go to ?
 

UncleBuck

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So, what does that have to do with you favoring legislation which deprives black people control over their own property and their own body?

You haven't addressed your penchant for legislation which could force a black person to serve a white person against their will on the black persons own property no less.

Don't they teach you anything about argumentation at those Klan meetings you go to ?
stop pretending like you care about black people. you oppose civil rights. civil rights had to be passed because racist whites like you wouldn't serve black people. black people couldn't even travel because of racist whites like you.
 

Rob Roy

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why are you trying to rewrite history completely, klanman?

civil rights were passed because white people refused to serve black people because of their skin color.

So, you're still okay with forcing black people to serve white people though right?
 

Rob Roy

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stop pretending like you care about black people. you oppose civil rights. civil rights had to be passed because racist whites like you wouldn't serve black people. black people couldn't even travel because of racist whites like you.

I'm not the one favoring legislation which denies black people the right to self determine the use of their property and body though am I ? You are.

I care about my right to self determine and equal rights, which, if you were a reasoning person would logically mean, if I consider that I have a right to self determine, all other people must have that right to.

I have no right to force anyone to associate, do you ? Wouldn't that mean you DON'T believe in equal rights if you believe you can make another's choices for them under threat of force to them ?

Do you even know what a right to self determine is or did you take the government schlong so deep they fucked any semblance of logic out of you ?
 

UncleBuck

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I'm not the one favoring legislation which denies black people the right to self determine the use of their property and body though am I ? You are.

I care about my right to self determine and equal rights, which, if you were a reasoning person would logically mean, if I consider that I have a right to self determine, all other people must have that right to.

I have no right to force anyone to associate, do you ? Wouldn't that mean you DON'T believe in equal rights if you believe you can make another's choices for them under threat of force to them ?

Do you even know what a right to self determine is or did you take the government schlong so deep they fucked any semblance of logic out of you ?
stop trying to pretend like you care about black people. you oppose civil rights.
 

Rob Roy

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Yes, I am okay with the laws currently in place governing such business entities. Nobody is being forced to start one. Stop with the illogical histrionics, cupcake.
Half assed retort half wit.

What if a black person DOES decide to do some commerce using his property and prefers not to be forced to serve white people or ask anyones permission to begin doing commerce ?

Would that black person suffer any force from anyone? (the answer is yes...which is why your half ass argument sucks, Pudding Pie)
 

Rob Roy

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stop trying to pretend like you care about black people. you oppose civil rights.

Stop trying to pretend that equality of oppression by government is the same thing as "equal rights". It isn't.

I favor equal right of all people of all races etc. to self determine the use of their own body and their property. (you do not)

I do not favor legislation which could force a black person to serve a white person against their will. (you do)

You never answered why you think government can give a person freedom ? Do you think the default status is government owns people and all freedom flows from them ? Wouldn't it be better to call them revocable privileges then?

I'm still winning, in case it wasn't blatantly obvious.
 

londonfog

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Half assed retort half wit.

What if a black person DOES decide to do some commerce using his property and prefers not to be forced to serve white people or ask anyones permission to begin doing commerce ?

Would that black person suffer any force from anyone? (the answer is yes...which is why your half ass argument sucks, Pudding Pie)
Why the fuck are you making dumb shit up to support your fucked argument.
Black never denied whites service as a law in America. That was done by whites. The civil rights attempted to put a stop to that. Stick to facts when you argue or you will look like an idiot who just happens to be a word-smith
 

Rob Roy

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Why the fuck are you making dumb shit up to support your fucked argument.
Black never denied whites service as a law in America. That was done by whites. The civil rights attempted to put a stop to that. Stick to facts when you argue or you will look like an idiot who just happens to be a word-smith

What civil rights did was attempt to fix a problem. It failed.

It was certainly wrong for government to forcibly prevent people of any race who wished to associate from doing so.

The reason it was wrong was because it removed self determination of individual people, regardless of race.

When government flipped and insisted that people under some circumstances MUST associate, it was wrong, again, because it forcibly removed self determination of individual people.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
 

londonfog

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What civil rights did was attempt to fix a problem. It failed.

It was certainly wrong for government to forcibly prevent people of any race who wished to associate from doing so.

The reason it was wrong was because it removed self determination of individual people, regardless of race.

When government flipped and insisted that people under some circumstances MUST associate, it was wrong, again, because it forcibly removed self determination of individual people.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
Say whatever, just stick to facts when you debate and not any made up shit that never fucking happened.
Whites were discriminating against blacks as a law and the civil rights attempted to put a stop to that...and for some reason you are against that. I'm not about to go in circles with you about public and private property either. Wake up and step into the world of 2017
 

Rob Roy

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Say whatever, just stick to facts when you debate and not any made up shit that never fucking happened.
Whites were discriminating against blacks as a law and the civil rights attempted to put a stop to that...and for some reason you are against that. I'm not about to go in circles with you about public and private property either. Wake up and step into the world of 2017


Could you point out where I've said anything which is inaccurate? Anything? No, you can't.

Uncle Buck and apparently you favor legislation which removes a black persons right of self determination of their own body and their property. You favor legislation which would force a black person to serve a white person against his will, IN 2017!! And you told me to wake up and step into the world of 2017? That's really funny.

Are you claiming that isn't true, you don't support that legislation which could force black people into a kind of servitude to a white person against their will? The evidence doesn't support your claim.
 

dagwood45431

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I'm not the one favoring legislation which denies black people the right to self determine the use of their property and body though am I ? You are.

I care about my right to self determine and equal rights, which, if you were a reasoning person would logically mean, if I consider that I have a right to self determine, all other people must have that right to.

I have no right to force anyone to associate, do you ? Wouldn't that mean you DON'T believe in equal rights if you believe you can make another's choices for them under threat of force to them ?

Do you even know what a right to self determine is or did you take the government schlong so deep they fucked any semblance of logic out of you ?
 
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