Government claims it owns children, threatens 2nd mom with jail

[Rob Roy]

Just stop talking about wanting to pay others for your perverted sexual pleasures. No one cares how much you pay to be a sex slave. and NO I do not wish to know your "safe word" that frees you from this sexual slavery. You decide to get married on your own. Now live with your choices.
How often did you meet with your sons teacher when they went to public school ? Did that they take a lunch or eat at school ? Did you drive them to public school using public roads ? or did they take a public school bus and get driven ? Did you have to pay for your kids school books or were they given freely. How often do you visit your library ? Do you use the US Postal service often...I mean besides when they deliver your mail in the woods.
When can we discuss how you file each year using that social security number ?

So because your master takes your money (with or without your consent) to build an indoctrination center to inculcate your children to their system, you should be thankful ?

You never answered my question either.

So, I'll ask another way...
About which percent of your cranberry muffin could I forcibly take from you and you wouldn't consider me to be stealing from you ?

 

[Drowning-Man]

So because your master takes your money (with or without your consent) to build an indoctrination center to inculcate your children to their system, you should be thankful ?

You never answered my question either.

So, I'll ask another way...
About which percent of your cranberry muffin could I forcibly take from you and you wouldn't consider me to be stealing from you ?

Cranberry muffin lol

 

[Rob Roy]

Cranberry muffin lol

I know, I know, I should have said blueberry muffin right?

 

[londonfog]

So because your master takes your money (with or without your consent) to build an indoctrination center to inculcate your children to their system, you should be thankful ?

You never answered my question either.

So, I'll ask another way...
About which percent of your cranberry muffin could I forcibly take from you and you wouldn't consider me to be stealing from you ?

take my muffin ??? Hell I would give you one. My wife gets them from this bakery right up the street. I have a banana walnut and a blue berry waiting to be eaten. No need to steal Robbie, but today we doing bacon

Did you complain about public schools when you took your 3 little men? what about your mail usage, library visits. do you drive on roads, freeways, highways ?

 

[Rob Roy]

take my muffin ??? Hell I would give you one. My wife gets them from this bakery right up the street. I have a banana walnut and a blue berry waiting to be eaten. No need to steal Robbie.

Did you complain about public schools when you took your 3 little men? what about your mail usage, library visits. do you drive on roads, freeways, highways ?

So, all of the things you mention could not exist in a world where people who want those services purchase them from any number of suppliers and those who don't want them aren't forced to buy something they don't want or don't need ?

If there's no need to steal, why did you dress up in your military uniform and steal oranges from some poor farmer ?

 

[Drowning-Man]

I know, I know, I should have said blueberry muffin right?

If its from Michigan were gonna have to fight over it! My dad was a blue berry farmer

 

[Rob Roy]

If its from Michigan were gonna have to fight over it! My dad was a blue berry farmer

 

[schuylaar]

To your government, you are their property though... slave. If you don't think so, can you provide evidence to the contrary ? I bet you can't.

wouldn't the 'proof' be on you?..no one has to prove innocence. other's must prove guilt, though.

prove that 'slaves' exist..not that they don't.

'nice spin as always

 

[Rob Roy]

wouldn't the 'proof' be on you?..no one has to prove innocence. other's must prove guilt, though.

prove that 'slaves' exist..not that they don't.

'nice spin as always

The proof is SELF EVIDENT and also in the question that people refuse to answer.

Which percent of the fruit of your labor can be confiscated, absent your permission, before you are another persons slave ?

 

[schuylaar]

The proof is SELF EVIDENT and also in the question that people refuse to answer.

Which percent of the fruit of your labor can be confiscated, absent your permission, before you are another persons slave ?

as much as I allow them so I can have food, shelter and medical.

 

[Rob Roy]

as much as I allow them so I can have food, shelter and medical.

So, when you disallow them to determine how much and what they will charge you, they politely go away ?

 

[londonfog]

So, all of the things you mention could not exist in a world where people who want those services purchase them from any number of suppliers and those who don't want them aren't forced to buy something they don't want or don't need ?

If there's no need to steal, why did you dress up in your military uniform and steal oranges from some poor farmer ?

why did you force us to pay for your children education.

How could it be theft when the owner of the orchard allowed us to do it ? What make you think we were in uniform ?
When can we talk about how you file ?

 

[Rob Roy]

why did you force us to pay for your children education.

How could it be theft when the owner of the orchard allowed us to do it ? What make you think we were in uniform ?
When can we talk about how you file ?

I often file alphabetically, or if storing seeds, sometimes by family group or pheno type.

Well, you're right if the orchard owner agreed to something and you didn't place him under duress, it wasn't theft. So who paid for your uniforms and did all of them agree to it ?

 

[londonfog]

I often file alphabetically, or if storing seeds, sometimes by family group or pheno type.

Well, you're right if the orchard owner agreed to something and you didn't place him under duress, it wasn't theft. So who paid for your uniforms and did all of them agree to it ?

ummmm I paid for my own uniform. We get a uniform allowance. You do realize you pay taxes even in the service right ???


What about your taxes do, how do you file your income tax ? You claim head of household ?

 

[ChefKimbo]

wouldn't the 'proof' be on you?..no one has to prove innocence. other's must prove guilt, though.

prove that 'slaves' exist..not that they don't.

'nice spin as always

How about you prove that the Emancipation Proclaimation is indeed actual law?

How about you prove that FULL DISCLOSURE is award to all applicants for SOCIAL SECURITY, LIVE BIRTH, MARRIAGE LICENSES, ETC?

Or prove that your government is not in violation of human rights by contracting with minors(IRS, SOCIAL SECURITY, ETC)?

Can you prove that 13th Amendment, SECTION 12, is not the law of the land?

The burden of proof is in plain sight. There is no need to cite countless sources that the posters in here will just refute with prejudice and willful ignorance. All one really needs is a reputable LAW DICTIONARY.

 

[Rob Roy]

ummmm I paid for my own uniform. We get a uniform allowance. You do realize you pay taxes even in the service right ???


What about your taxes do, how do you file your income tax ? You claim head of household ?

Who paid for your uniform allowance and did all of those people consent to that payment?

Yes, I do realize that military stooges are taxed on the stolen money they receive. It's kind of funny how many ways they place tax upon tax isn't it ?
Almost like they think they own you and every activity there is creates another opportunity to plunder.

Claim ? Yes, I claim to own myself. I am quite the head, I even have a crusty old tie dyed tee shirt to prove it. Who owns you ?

 

[Rob Roy]

How about you prove that the Emancipation Proclaimation is indeed actual law?

How about you prove that FULL DISCLOSURE is award to all applicants for SOCIAL SECURITY, LIVE BIRTH, MARRIAGE LICENSES, ETC?

Or prove that your is not in violation of human rights by contracting with minors(IRS, SOCIAL SECURITY, ETC)?

Can you prove that 13th Amendment, SECTION 12, is not the law of the land?

The burden of proof is in plain sight. There is no need to cite countless sources that the posters in here will just refute with prejudice and willful ignorance. All one really needs is a reputable LAW DICTIONARY.

Good point on the Emancipation Proclamation. I understand the original idea was an Executive branch "illegal move" to create legislation by Lincoln which was intended to only free Southern slaves and did not free Northern slaves. In other words a political move and not a humanitarian move on Lincoln's part. Another example of Lincoln's not following the USA Constitution while claiming to be protecting the Union and the Constitution etc.

Plus Lincoln had a funny beard and no mustache. Definite points off there.

 

[ChefKimbo]

At that point in history the government had been incorporated. Meaning the United States of America had become the UNTITED STATES OF AMERICA. This new government was not a party to the original Constitution FOR The United States Of America. This is where the occupational government was first established. Lincoln actually was doing what he was chosen to do in the Union. He was the very first president(CEO) of this newly formed installment. Freeing the slaves was soley a move to destabilize a very strong and growing economy in the powerful southern states.

Where Lincoln went rogue is when he began to gather political support and resources to remove all former slaves from all U.S. territories and send them to South America. He believed that Europeans and the indigenous population could not co-exist. That was against the position of the former slave owner, broker classes who made fortunes off the free labor. They sought to continue economic dominance over the North were reluctant restructure after former slaves were becoming industrious and forcible involuntary servitude was outlawed.

 

[Justin-case]

At that point in history the government had been incorporated. Meaning the United States of America had become the UNTITED STATES OF AMERICA. This new government was not a party to the original Constitution FOR The United States Of America. This is where the occupational government was first established. Lincoln actually was doing what he was chosen to do in the Union. He was the very first president(CEO) of this newly formed installment. Freeing the slaves was soley a move to destabilize a very strong and growing economy in the powerful southern states.

Where Lincoln went rogue is when he began to gather political support and resources to remove all former slaves from all U.S. territories and send them to South America. He believed that Europeans and the indigenous population could not co-exist. That was against the position of the former slave owner, broker classes who made fortunes off the free labor. They sought to continue economic dominance over the North were reluctant restructure after former slaves were becoming industrious and forcible involuntary servitude was outlawed.

Tldr

 

[schuylaar]

So, when you disallow them to determine how much and what they will charge you, they politely go away ?

I don't understand.