Government claims it owns children, threatens 2nd mom with jail

jarvild

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Their grandson now has a medical exemption from further vaccines.

Listen, I'm not here arguing over vaccines. I am just reporting that some people do have adverse reactions to them. A lot of the Medical, legal and law enforcement police themselves. I've dealt with this a couple of times with my wife. One was a Dr. that performed surgery on my wife while hung over. He got a slap on the wrist and had to go through alcohol class. Another was with an attorney that was involved in a accident with my wife that killed a passenger in the car with her.
 

Chezus

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Ok , for an update and correction of my post. It was not a mrsa vaccine but an MMRV vaccine and the problem was that they didn't have on file where he had been immunized so the physician decided he needed it. So he had the vaccine twice and this is what caused the reaction.
They also had a grandson that had a MMRV vaccine that he had an adverse reaction too.
No.
 

UncleBuck

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Well then, I wonder how they got a settlement through the courts for $300,000. It may have taken them 10 years to get it , but they did get compensated.
Then why does our government have a vaccine court.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine_court
people get settlements for slipping on wet floors next to a wet floor sign.

it's meaningless.

you are trying to spread unscientific propaganda.
 

Chezus

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Well then, I wonder how they got a settlement through the courts for $300,000. It may have taken them 10 years to get it , but they did get compensated.
Then why does our government have a vaccine court.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine_court
Why don't you actually read what you link?
The bar is so low to win a case. It's lawsuit magnet. I could win a case here easily. I don't have to prove a vaccine caused an injury to get paid.
 

jarvild

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people get settlements for slipping on wet floors next to a wet floor sign.

it's meaningless.

you are trying to spread unscientific propaganda.
No, as I said I'm not against vaccines. All I stated was that I know someone who was affected by them supposable. And that a court of law ( not the vaccine court) awarded them a judgement. That's 12 jurors, the common folks like most of us that sided with them.
Anyways, I didn't come here to side with either view. Just stating my neighbors results.
 

whitebb2727

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No to all of your claims.
A double dose of vaccine is not harmful.
It can be. A single dose can.

The risk is still worth getting them.

Healthcare workers freaked out over accidentally giving my daughter a double vaccine. Asked all kinds of questions about how she was doing and acting. If it doesn't harm someone why were they so worried?

Nothing is without risk.
 

SneekyNinja

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It can be. A single dose can.

The risk is still worth getting them.

Healthcare workers freaked out over accidentally giving my daughter a double vaccine. Asked all kinds of questions about how she was doing and acting. If it doesn't harm someone why were they so worried?

Nothing is without risk.
Nurses aren't doctors, that's probably why they freaked out.
 

whitebb2727

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Nurses aren't doctors, that's probably why they freaked out.
Bullshit. Nurses do most of the work. There was legitimate reason for them to act like that.

Yes. I have suspicion that some of the issues that have popped up now are because of that mistake.

When I say freak out they didn't freak out. They were very concerned and asking very specific questions about how she had been acting and if we noticed any adverse mental effects.

I'm agreeing that vaccines are good. They are for the well being of the public.

Don't sit here and act like they are without risk though. May be a very sma risk but its there. Even with that small risk I would still advise getting vaccines.
 

SneekyNinja

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Bullshit. Nurses do most of the work. There was legitimate reason for them to act like that.

Yes. I have suspicion that some of the issues that have popped up now are because of that mistake.

When I say freak out they didn't freak out. They were very concerned and asking very specific questions about how she had been acting and if we noticed any adverse mental effects.

I'm agreeing that vaccines are good. They are for the well being of the public.

Don't sit here and act like they are without risk though. May be a very sma risk but its there. Even with that small risk I would still advise getting vaccines.
Nurses know how to carry out certain procedures, that is true, but they don't have the in-depth scientific knowledge that a fully trained doctor would.

They freak out if they double dose ANYTHING in a hospital; honestly modern vaccines are denatured strain or antigen-only with some trace compounds to promote a solid immune reaction.

There's literally nothing in them to cause any of the crazy shit some people describe, they're rigorously controlled and tested.
 

whitebb2727

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Nurses know how to carry out certain procedures, that is true, but they don't have the in-depth scientific knowledge that a fully trained doctor would.

They freak out if they double dose ANYTHING in a hospital; honestly modern vaccines are denatured strain or antigen-only with some trace compounds to promote a solid immune reaction.

There's literally nothing in them to cause any of the crazy shit some people describe, they're rigorously controlled and tested.
What ever man. I'm not going to sit and a true about it. Nurses have plenty of knowledge and some can even see patients and treat them under the supervision of a doctor.

I'm not talking a wet behind the ears 2 year nurse. Talking a nurse practitioner that's been doing her job for over 30 years.

Yea. I'm sure she was asking those questions for no reason and getting parents upset for no reason. :roll:
 

UncleBuck

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What ever man. I'm not going to sit and a true about it. Nurses have plenty of knowledge and some can even see patients and treat them under the supervision of a doctor.

I'm not talking a wet behind the ears 2 year nurse. Talking a nurse practitioner that's been doing her job for over 30 years.

Yea. I'm sure she was asking those questions for no reason and getting parents upset for no reason. :roll:
coulda been an anti-vaxxer nurse. i can't imagine how you would measure "adverse mental affects" or why you would even ask about them since that is not a side effect of vaccines.
 

whitebb2727

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coulda been an anti-vaxxer nurse. i can't imagine how you would measure "adverse mental affects" or why you would even ask about them since that is not a side effect of vaccines.
She wasn't anti vaccine. She was very pro vaccine.

Its been a number if years. Just telling what happened.

No one can claim that vaccines are 100% safe. Nothing is.

I would still get my kids vaccinated if I had to do over.

Just saying that its possible for people to have adverse reactions to them.
 

UncleBuck

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She wasn't anti vaccine. She was very pro vaccine.

Its been a number if years. Just telling what happened.

No one can claim that vaccines are 100% safe. Nothing is.

I would still get my kids vaccinated if I had to do over.

Just saying that its possible for people to have adverse reactions to them.
not mental reactions though. that's nonsense.
 

SneekyNinja

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She wasn't anti vaccine. She was very pro vaccine.

Its been a number if years. Just telling what happened.

No one can claim that vaccines are 100% safe. Nothing is.

I would still get my kids vaccinated if I had to do over.

Just saying that its possible for people to have adverse reactions to them.
The only reaction to them is the one in your immune system...

I'm not explaining it in any more detail, Google it up and learn yourself something about how they work.
 

whitebb2727

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https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/side-effects.htm

Even the cdc states there are risk.

Some even list brain damage as a very rare reaction. Its a small risk but its there.

Some of them list fever as a common symptom and very high fever as a rare reaction. The high fever could contribute to problems own its own.

The risk is very small but its there. As I already said, the benefit outweighs the risk.
 
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