SIP thread -- (Sub-Irrigated Planter)

Lightgreen2k

Lightgreen2k

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I have used dem for years My plants come out Great all the time. WaynesWolrd another online person use that vegan line aswell with stellar results.

I have made supersoil to before and its fine.

Point Of No till is to Not have to add.to your crops. THERE is no written rule that says Hi jack I might be in some small whole in the wall were natural things around us are scarce vs I can source the best notil ingredients froma plethora of companies that specialize in notil practices

I guess companies such "B-u-i-l-d a soil would not exist or redfrog or so many other bio based companies.
 
Lightgreen2k

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hyroot said:
Well I learned about No Till directly from Clackamas coots, Envocation ( formerly head treep) and Mountain Organics. Plus trial and error. For a while i was using 3/4 cup of crab shell meal per cubic foot. Then went back to 1/2 a cup of crab shell when I added karanja meal to the mix. For a short time I even used fish bone meal too. I've been running no till with variations of this mix for 7 years now. I have 2 batches of soil. . 1 is over 8 years old and the other is 3 years old. I was even recycling my soil for a couple years before I even knew about no till. I've been doing probiotics for a little over 2 years now. Probiotics is no till in conjunction with korean natural farming and jadam natural farming.

Trial and error is the best teacher when it comes to growing.

This soil recipe above minus the liming, karanja and barley is coots original recipe.
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"I've been doing probiotics for a little over 2 years now. Probiotics is no till in conjunction with korean natural farming and jadam natural farming."

I would incorporate that. with no till and the sips,... I wondering How I will clean the res if the roots find their way there.
 
hyroot

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Lightgreen2k said:
"I've been doing probiotics for a little over 2 years now. Probiotics is no till in conjunction with korean natural farming and jadam natural farming."

I would incorporate that. with no till and the sips,... I wondering How I will clean the res if the roots find their way there.
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You don't. This isn't hydro with a sterile environment. You're working with living soil. Just add em1 to the resi. You can purchase that from Build A Soil or Teraganix. Make some labs while you use the em1 and when the em1 runs out the labs should be ready. Em1 is labs with other microbes cultured from yeast. Teraganix keeps the exact recipe proprietary.

You won't even be able to access the resi once the bed is full anyway
 
Lightgreen2k

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hyroot said:
You don't. This isn't hydro with a sterile environment. You're working with living soil. Just add em1 to the resi. You can purchase that from Build A Soil or Teraganix. Make some labs while you use the em1 and when the em1 runs out the labs should be ready. Em1 is labs with other microbes cultured from yeast. Teraganix keeps the exact recipe proprietary.

You won't even be able to access the resi once the bed is full anyway
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Alright I will do this for sure. They also have em5 and a cover crop mix..

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This will also help to suck and fix soil problems.
 
meangreengrowinmachine

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Lightgreen2k said:
Anything else you might think of. I dont want the netpots to come out or be "pushed" out because of the weight of the soil in the planter. I think the stones in the bottom of the tray will support it. Plus they do wick.
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this is partly why i like the inntainer design. It uses the tops of the totes you cut down to form the water rez, to act as a base for the soil to sit on!
 
Lightgreen2k

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meangreengrowinmachine said:
this is partly why i like the inntainer design. It uses the tops of the totes you cut down to form the water rez, to act as a base for the soil to sit on!
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I know that design well as it is similar too a growbox..and earthbox.

The weight growstones, in the tray should be enough. The flood tray Im gettig is low tide one. More like a giant saucer. 4 inches and net pots 3.
 
CollieWeed

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Really Guys? :wall:

ttystikk said:
Grow stones won't wick any more than hydroton will.

QUOTE="greg nr, post: 13786687, member: 958284"]So are you believing an email or your own lying eyes? :mrgreen:
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hyroot said:
Yes grow stones will wick. Yes they will support the weight. If the tray was empty you could make a pvc frame to support the weight. That's what I do in my octo pot style sips. The grow stone method has been working pretty good for Jeremy
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CollieWeed

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Lightgreen2k said:
what are you asking or making that emoji for..

Do you even use growstones sir..

If you dont use them or if they are Not local its not worth it. They cost more to ship as Freight then actual product.
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Yes, they are local, HD and Lowe's carry them here,

meangreengrowinmachine said:
i have never used them.. (had to look them up lol) sounds like a decent sub for perlite in soil.. you are using that in your rez so its kinda like a hempy?
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I use them in my net pot as wicking in a 5 gallon sip container,
 
hyroot

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Tim Fox said:
i went to build a soil web page and found the soma sip, but there really arnt any pictures that show how it wicks,, and how is that huge fabric soil container held up above the res?,, also 420 dollars?,, 420 hahahaha,, for real?
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The resi is filled with grow stones for support and wicking. The resi is always full wicking through the center. Eventually the roots grow through the fabric into the resi.

I'd get a 4x4 bed from grass roots fabric pots. - $80

Tray from local hydro shop - 80.

Net trellis from local shop- $15

Pvc from home deps - $15

Lave rock or Riverstone from home deps - $5 per cubic foot x 6 = $33 after tax.

$225 total (rounded up)

I'm going to swap each 4x4 area to those beds each round. So in 8 months my whole room should be converted to those. Starting with my testing tent for my genetics.
 
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Tim Fox

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hyroot said:
The resi is filled with grow stones for support and wicking. The resi is always full wicking through the center. Eventually the roots grow through the fabric into the resi.

I'd get a 4x4 bed from grass roots fabric pots. - $80

Tray from local hydro shop - 80.

Net trellis feom local shop- $15

Pvc from home deps - $15

Lave rock or Riverstone from home deps - $5 per cubic foot x 6 = $33 after tax.

$225 total (rounded up)

I'm going to swap each 4x4 area to those beds each round. So in 8 months my whole room should be converted to those. Startibg with my testing tent for my genetics.
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isnt the capacity in gallons something like 33 ?,,, i wonder what it drops down to with the grow stones filling the space?
 
neroceasar

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NICE! gone for a week, the thread blows up and hyroot makes an appearance! @hyroot do you think the current CC mix would work good in a sip? and if your going to the pumice wick method, and everything stays uniformly wet, are you still top dressing and feeding your FPE by watering in?
 
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