GiveMeKnowledge
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And this is what 2 20oz plants look like with 2 600s dropped over them
The UK Growers Thread!
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GiveMeKnowledge
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Not bragging mate I just like to show off my plants like everyone else but people like to call bullshit when they aren't getting the same results. I'm not a liar why would I need to? Like I said you can do your research yourself I'm not the only one getting these numbers on this system and I'm not even near what others round here are getting so carry on calling bullshit I'm not fussed.
GiveMeKnowledge
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Exactly... I'm not here to cause a fuss . You guys probably been growing a lot longer than me but I'm no liar . Them pics that Yorkshire guy posted are soil grows other than the vert setup which is impressive but how's he tryna compare soil to full rdwc is beyond me? This system does all the work I just gotta make sure everything is sweet in the ph/ec department and watch them fly. I'm no master grower never claimed to be either!
The Yorkshireman
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Because, if you use logic for even one second, it's not about the medium it's about the physical space needed to yield 35oz.
GiveMeKnowledge
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And if you read my post I'm not pulling 35oz my pal is with no space restrictions.
Edit. Oh and 9 600w lights ... if you can't grasp that don't worry about it carry on with whatever it is you do.
GiveMeKnowledge
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Feels like I'm making enemies and that's not what I want to do .. so let's leave it be , you don't believe me that's your choice .
lukio
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Same boat. My pumps worry me. I've thought about floating them in my rez...
The Yorkshireman
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Yeah I didn't say you did, I was talking about your mate pulling 35oz.
OK if your mate has no space restrictions fair enough, I may have misread your 1sqm as his 1sqm.
That aside, you are still saying that your mate is pulling 35oz from 1 plant under 1 single 600w bulb.
Look at how much space is needed to fit my 35oz of solid baseball bat Exodus Cheese colas in, a whole 2.4m tent, and they were grown under 3 x 600w bulbs with perfectly even coverage and all plants pretty much the same size, the plants are just the right height to utilize all the light penetration without any popcorn, efficient as fuck my tent is.
Look how big/thick/full those colas are and how many of them there is and how much physical space they take up.
You're trying to tell us that your mate is getting the exact same amount of bud from 1 plant, in far less space, with only 1 light AND penetration light loss to deal with.
Do you realize what a fucking impossibly stupid, manga freak of a plant that would look like?
Not to mention your mate would be the best grower I've ever heard about and would be truly the stuff of legends.
Like I said, not even Heath Robinson pulled that amount from 1 plant and a single 600w and he is a legend.
Pictures or it didn't happen.
The Yorkshireman
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And you clearly don't understand the significance of this picture.......
Those are 2lb ish plants (at finish), so just less than 35oz.
They are grown with vertically hung 1000w bulbs, vertical side lighting beats lit from above all day long.
1000w bulbs beat 600's all day long.
Your pal is getting the same/better yield with much less light overall and with a much less efficient lighting arrangement all because he uses the particular buckets/piping/pump set up he does?
Yeah, seems legit.
Those are 2lb ish plants (at finish), so just less than 35oz.
They are grown with vertically hung 1000w bulbs, vertical side lighting beats lit from above all day long.
1000w bulbs beat 600's all day long.
Your pal is getting the same/better yield with much less light overall and with a much less efficient lighting arrangement all because he uses the particular buckets/piping/pump set up he does?
Yeah, seems legit.
The Yorkshireman
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Yeah you said 9 plants with 9 x 600w lights.
So that is 1 single 600w light per plant.
GiveMeKnowledge
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I've seen it and it happens.. plenty people round leicester doing it . The system is popular round here as the guy who designed it is local. He also does exhibitions abroad and teaches people to get huge results. Mate your obviously good at what you do and know your shit (more than me anyway) but I'm not bullshitting on this. Them pics of mine were vegged for 4 weeks that's with me bending, fimming and plucking leaves left right and centre. Look on the system website says on there it's breaking all the records.
GiveMeKnowledge
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But it's 5400w in a garage.... does that count for anything? It would in my eyes anyway. It certainly lights up the room more than a single 600 would lol
coreywebster
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Not to mention only 4 weeks v
You have to understand every guy and his mates with a new product comes on here and shouts out "hey look what I did with this amazing new piece of equipment."
Plus were stoners and growers in the UK, we can be extra suspicious.
I know I can pull in theory 45 oz in 1.2x1.2m (based on a test scrog scaled up) But I couldn't fill that space with one plant in 4 weeks, but I also know that hydro systems in my limited experience with them can really crack on in veg, so maybe the system is so good its possible with the right training and a sizable clone to start.
I'm sceptical but take great pleasure in been proven wrong.
Take it as a compliment that folks here are sceptical, because there's some great growers with a lot of experience.
Your plant looks good, be great to see it though to the end.
Best thing is to just document your grow from the point your at on a thread and pop a link to it here every now and then and say hello.
You have to understand every guy and his mates with a new product comes on here and shouts out "hey look what I did with this amazing new piece of equipment."
Plus were stoners and growers in the UK, we can be extra suspicious.
I know I can pull in theory 45 oz in 1.2x1.2m (based on a test scrog scaled up) But I couldn't fill that space with one plant in 4 weeks, but I also know that hydro systems in my limited experience with them can really crack on in veg, so maybe the system is so good its possible with the right training and a sizable clone to start.
I'm sceptical but take great pleasure in been proven wrong.
Take it as a compliment that folks here are sceptical, because there's some great growers with a lot of experience.
Your plant looks good, be great to see it though to the end.
coreywebster
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Best thing is to just document your grow from the point your at on a thread and pop a link to it here every now and then and say hello.
You have to understand every guy and his mates with a new product comes on here and shouts out "hey look what I did with this amazing new piece of equipment."
Plus were stoners and growers in the UK, we can be extra suspicious.
I know I can pull in theory 45 oz in 1.2x1.2m (based on a test scrog scaled up) But I couldn't fill that space with one plant in 4 weeks, but I also know that hydro systems in my limited experience with them can really crack on in veg, so maybe the system is so good its possible with the right training and a sizable clone to start.
I'm sceptical but take great pleasure in been proven wrong.
Take it as a compliment that folks here are sceptical, because there's some great growers with a lot of experience.
Your plants looks good, be great to see it though to the end.
coreywebster
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and yeah that counts for a lot. Its like a commercial set up, everything has side lighting from the neighbouring plants lights. All that light overlap makes a huge difference.
makka
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Lol always fun when yorkie shows up
I ran Dwc for years few pics on this thread I think few year back best I ever got horizontal and was scrog with the cheese fem from ghs not exo and it was 20 or 21 I'm not 2 sure?
in a 1.2 tent 600 coolhood nothing could off been done better from my view point I worked my ass everyday under the net for 30min and that's hard when the floor has a Wilma 4 big On it drilled out with a separate return res 50 + 50 litre everything dialled from seed 7 to 8 week veg
Flowered for 9 week 4 plants
I really can't picture 35 in 1 sqm even in my mind
Any way some gg4 2 600s in hoods
9 plants 100% coco 18ltr pots at 8 an half week
Don't know how to flip the the pic and don't wanna edit it cause will have to delete metadata again and that's what flipped it in 1st place??? Shit app
Hoping for 14 to 16 a light fingers crossed might not get 10 lol
But they are rocks
I ran Dwc for years few pics on this thread I think few year back best I ever got horizontal and was scrog with the cheese fem from ghs not exo and it was 20 or 21 I'm not 2 sure?
in a 1.2 tent 600 coolhood nothing could off been done better from my view point I worked my ass everyday under the net for 30min and that's hard when the floor has a Wilma 4 big On it drilled out with a separate return res 50 + 50 litre everything dialled from seed 7 to 8 week veg
Flowered for 9 week 4 plants
I really can't picture 35 in 1 sqm even in my mind
Any way some gg4 2 600s in hoods
9 plants 100% coco 18ltr pots at 8 an half week
Don't know how to flip the the pic and don't wanna edit it cause will have to delete metadata again and that's what flipped it in 1st place??? Shit app
Hoping for 14 to 16 a light fingers crossed might not get 10 lol
But they are rocks
The Yorkshireman
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Plumbing doesn't beat raw light power and the efficiency of vertical bulbs by that amount.
A single 600w bulb can not penetrate a plant that big to pull 35oz of solid, quality bud, it is not possible.
There must be some other variable to account for such an impossible yield from such little light.
Like the bud weighed as 35oz not being all solid quality, so maybe like 20oz of quality and 15oz of hash pile shit.
The Yorkshireman
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I don't think you could man, again it's about physical space.
Look how this 35oz is laid out again, over twice as much space with 3 x as much light.
So you're saying potentially 10oz more (which is 4.6 more plants than in the picture to make up the 10 extra oz) in half the space.
I don't know how much light you're suggesting but you couldn't do that with a single 600 and 3 x 600's in a 1.2 m is nearly impossible to run, I've run 2 x 600w and a 400w in a 1.2m in winter with 3 cooltubes and 2 x 5" exhaust fans and it was touch and go.
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