Archive Seed Bank

Observe & Report said:
What's the difference between what you call "chucking" and what Archive is doing?
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With Archive it's pretty obvious. He created Dosido's and has access to the best pheno's/more variations than anyone. By the time he released his versions, the dosido hype train was pretty much over....a little late for an untested money grab. I mean, my man showed up to the party the next day to help clean up and take out the garbage. There are basically 2 styles of breeding. The real ones who test their own shit, and let a few trusted people run the beans. These guys know what they have. Then you have the ones who dump free seeds to anyone who will test them....relying on other peoples opinions...lol. Heres some free seeds to grow, if they're good i'll give you more, lol. For some reason these guys never get hated on, and would never even be considered chuckers. But hey, this is just my opinion based on the research I have done/observing the obvious. Can you let me know what Archive is really doing since it would seem you have some inside knowledge?
 
eastcoastled said:
There are basically 2 styles of breeding. The real ones who test their own shit, and let a few trusted people run the beans. These guys know what they have. Then you have the ones who dump free seeds to anyone who will test them....relying on other peoples opinions...lol. Heres some free seeds to grow, if they're good i'll give you more, lol. For some reason these guys never get hated on, and would never even be considered chuckers.
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Yeah so Bodhi and Stray and RedEyed and so on are b.s. breeders because they use testers and In House and Cali Connection are legit because they test their own shit and know what they have. (end sarcasm)
 
Were the dosi crosses from other breeders trash? Has anyone compared them to new F2 drop yet? Still dont even know what dosi male brings to table over faceoff make imo. Combine his attitude w/ high price tag he makes the other non archive dosido cross more appealing.

In house generics is alway brought up in for comparison but they are just doing what IHG does. That thread is more active than this one with more grow reports. We know IHG comes with herm disclaimer by now but you take the gamble on those fems & for most part people seem to be getting dank.

I'd like to see what archive is cooking up next if its sherbert,gelato,punch crosses im done haha!!
 
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They are specially bred clone only strains that are then highly bred by chucking one or 2 males. You dont understand these things so I wont waste my time explaining how hard this is. /meant to be sarcastic.
Given archives own description there is no breeding. His dosido was a hit but he forgot to keep the parent so he had to pheno hunt if you call that breeding. He puts out good genes no doubt, but I didint like his snotty attitude about "pollen chuckers" when he does exactly that, but with known good strains. Im a member of the sscc, so to see kids acting og is laughable.
 
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So can anyone give some inside knowledge to Archive's practices and their lack of testing?? I know the answer to that is he has a bad attitude and is a dick on the forums. Well maybe he is just passionate about what he does? Yeah, but his seeds cost too much! Yeah but there is fire in them packs. Well he doesn't test his shit.....and it just goes round and round. I was just hoping someone could give some real knowledge on the subject.
 
eastcoastled said:
So can anyone give some inside knowledge to Archive's practices and their lack of testing?? I know the answer to that is he has a bad attitude and is a dick on the forums. Well maybe he is just passionate about what he does? Yeah, but his seeds cost too much! Yeah but there is fire in them packs. Well he doesn't test his shit.....and it just goes round and round. I was just hoping someone could give some real knowledge on the subject.
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He has a great library of elite cuts, he uses proven males. If it's too expensive it simply means it is not for you. Ive ordered a few seeds from Archive, StinkBomb did not turnout good for me, but I d run more beans if I had them. Memory Loss is still in my collection. I dont know why people bitch at them, I like Archive. I watched an interview of the breeder I forget where now but I did not think he had bad attitude.
 
eastcoastled said:
There are basically 2 styles of breeding. The real ones who test their own shit, and let a few trusted people run the beans. These guys know what they have. Then you have the ones who dump free seeds to anyone who will test them....relying on other peoples opinions...lol. Heres some free seeds to grow, if they're good i'll give you more, lol.
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So what you're saying is making testers generally available with the expectation that the testers will post test grows is what constitutes "chucking" ? (not counting the common practice of sending out packs of testers to banks as freebies that come along with purchases)
 
I can't believe people are in here still complaining why dont everybody just do they own thing and stop bitching maybe step up ur skills and do more research if u don't like something don't get it stop waisting time complaining ur not doing anything for anyone ur just bitching who gives a fuck if it's a chuck or a ibl I've seen dudes grow shit ibl and the best chucks so there is obviously merit in both practices I used to come here everyday to hopefully learn or see something interesting now it's jus complain here bitch there whine there wtf if it's too expensive if u think he's a hack or whatever then step off his dick and just don't buy seeds I think Versace is expensive and not my style but I'm not gonna go sign into a forum so I can bitch about there prices or how they construct they're clothing compared to other companies everyone that keeps the bitch going just looks like a hater just move on with your life and let it go
 
Observe & Report said:
So what you're saying is making testers generally available with the expectation that the testers will post test grows is what constitutes "chucking" ? (not counting the common practice of sending out packs of testers to banks as freebies that come along with purchases)
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No, I'm basically saying the people who hate on breeders like archive and call him a chucker are almost always fans of someone who gives away free seeds. They tend to associate testing with getting free beans, and hate on those who don't give away free beans. You wouldn't be a fan of Bodhi by chance would you? The long wait between archive drops leans towards the logic that testing is being done behind closed doors, which realistically is the right way....it's the only way you will really know what you have. I asked before if you could shed some light on the statement that he is not testing. Do you have any facts or logic or are you just going to change the subject? That's the way this thread always goes.
 
How do we know he testing? He just dropped like 40 strains in less than a year so you think he tested all 40 strains? Cmon man dude was off these boards for years then come back here to promote these chuck. I'm not vouching for no breeder I don't know personally. None of use been to his grow facility to know if he's testing so nobody can say he is or isn't. But to drop about 40 strains I doubt it. But hey I'm a hater and can't afford $200 packs.
 
Every seed maker is out for money...some cheaper than the other....
If the seed maker,is not growing everything he/she makes..& post it all on the forums
Then said seed maker shall be deemed "Chuckers".

Also the seed maker must not eat mayonnaise....that will get you blackballed..in this community.
 
Vato_504 said:
How do we know he testing? He just dropped like 40 strains in less than a year so you think he tested all 40 strains? Cmon man dude was off these boards for years then come back here to promote these chuck. I'm not vouching for no breeder I don't know personally. None of use been to his grow facility to know if he's testing so nobody can say he is or isn't. But to drop about 40 strains I doubt it. But hey I'm a hater and can't afford $200 packs.
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That the point how does anyone know he isn't. You said 40 strains in less than a year, how do you know how long he has been working on them? I'm asking the questions b/c i don't know. From what i read its seems he came back on here to defend himself just like every other breeder. Then he gets chased away, just like every other breeder. Usually some IG research can tell you a lot about a breeder and what they have been working on, i just don't see any evidence of the accusations.
 
genuity said:
Every seed maker is out for money...some cheaper than the other....
If the seed maker,is not growing everything he/she makes..& post it all on the forums
Then said seed maker shall be deemed "Chuckers".

Also the seed maker must not eat mayonnaise....that will get you blackballed..in this community.
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What if I got a secret spy watch that uses a liberal spritzing of hot sauce on said mayonnaise?
 
eastcoastled said:
That the point how does anyone know he isn't. You said 40 strains in less than a year, how do you know how long he has been working on them? I'm asking the questions b/c i don't know. From what i read its seems he came back on here to defend himself just like every other breeder. Then he gets chased away, just like every other breeder. Usually some IG research can tell you a lot about a breeder and what they have been working on, i just don't see any evidence of the accusations.
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It don't matter to me one bit if he test or don't test. I won't spend money on those crosses because it's the same shit everyone else dropping. Archive must be your idol the way you defending him. Do some IG research and tell me how many grows you find on them new crosses. It won't be many.
 
Vato_504 said:
How do we know he testing? He just dropped like 40 strains in less than a year so you think he tested all 40 strains? Cmon man dude was off these boards for years then come back here to promote these chuck. I'm not vouching for no breeder I don't know personally. None of use been to his grow facility to know if he's testing so nobody can say he is or isn't. But to drop about 40 strains I doubt it. But hey I'm a hater and can't afford $200 packs.
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OK bro.
We all know you don't like him.
Now shut up and talk about the strains and not about this bullshit!
Every time I check in to find some strain info, all I see is this shit!
Enough already!
 
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