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I would say it's a medium yielder, solid but not spectacular. When I get back to my room I'll post the full plant pics, as well as the "B" pheno, which has VERY low bud to leaf ratio, and is a HUGE yielder, but takes 77-84 days it seems to fully finish. So I'm still on the fence whether or not it's a keeper. The only negative on this B pheno is the flower time...Also, where as the A is just Gas, the "B" is about as lime as lime gets, lol...
 
@eastcoastled

Wicked!!! Very nice. I got a pack of Kimbo I'm saving for winter. I really wanted but never pulled the trigger on the Double Stuffed. I got a pack of Banana Dawg from the Thunder Stash drop.
Anyone grow out any of those strains? I'm itching to pop those as well, Ultimate Chem and Banana OG seems just silly loud...
 
Face45 said:
Sorry guys, life smacked me in the face, haven't been able to post the pics I promised yet, I'll do it first thing in the morning, here are some dried bud pics, literally pics of the bag appeal..... This is what I call the Batch 45 " A" pheno; Sativa dominant, 9-10 weeks, closer to 9, all gas. Cal Mag hungry, moderate to heavy feeder. Kinda crappy bud to leaf ratio, but EVERYONE loves the smoke. Very heady, very smooth too. I do a three week flush usually, (I love smooth smoke..)
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You running soil-less medium?? or soil and chems?

Not sure what this "flush" is you speak of.

First off, chems in soil don't does not mean chems in flowers... that's physically and chemically impossible. IF what you want to remove excess nitrates, try just watering straight water, don't "flush" with excess water.

Doing that just drowns all the micro-organisms and the roots... doesn't change the flavor of the flowers.
What you do with that "flush" is basically stopping or slowing down and killing the plants growth. Not the best approach going down the stretch when we want out flowers to be putting on weight. Just sayin....

It's the micro-organisms that break down the excess fertilizer into nitrogen gas, drowning the micro-herd is actually doing the exact opposite of your intended result.

If you want better smoother tasting buds, try organic soil. Gonna be a lot easier work wise = mix soil, plant plants & water. I have the water and lights automated. I can go away for weeks at a time and don't have to do anything.

The thing with fertilizer is the plant grows too much leaf and so you're burning more chlorophyll which is harsh when you smoke it. By the time my plants are ready for harvest a lot of the leaves are very yellow or they already fell off, leaving me with a very easy trim job smooth tasty flowers and minimum cure time.
 
bobrown14 said:
You running soil-less medium?? or soil and chems?

Not sure what this "flush" is you speak of.

First off, chems in soil don't does not mean chems in flowers... that's physically and chemically impossible. IF what you want to remove excess nitrates, try just watering straight water, don't "flush" with excess water.

Doing that just drowns all the micro-organisms and the roots... doesn't change the flavor of the flowers.
What you do with that "flush" is basically stopping or slowing down and killing the plants growth. Not the best approach going down the stretch when we want out flowers to be putting on weight. Just sayin....

It's the micro-organisms that break down the excess fertilizer into nitrogen gas, drowning the micro-herd is actually doing the exact opposite of your intended result.

If you want better smoother tasting buds, try organic soil. Gonna be a lot easier work wise = mix soil, plant plants & water. I have the water and lights automated. I can go away for weeks at a time and don't have to do anything.

The thing with fertilizer is the plant grows too much leaf and so you're burning more chlorophyll which is harsh when you smoke it. By the time my plants are ready for harvest a lot of the leaves are very yellow or they already fell off, leaving me with a very easy trim job smooth tasty flowers and minimum cure time.
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I can't lie, your response confused me, lol. When I mentioned Chem, it was a reference to Exotics IG feed, he said it was a Chem cross (The batch 45). I said I think I got a Chem dominant pheno, it's gassy but the buds aren't like sour diesel buds, is what I was saying. I didn't say nothing about the soil? Lol, but yeah, it's organic....
And I give plain water for the last three weeks of flowering... Ive found lately if your soil is right, these plant really don't need that much food. I had a GDP that HATED to be fed, same with a Blue God plant, here is a few pics of that one..... But this is a strain specific thing... I haven't dialed this one in, (the 45) not even close yet, I've run it twice now....

Edit: To add on a little, I've been following Nspectas IG feed, someone asked him what he feeds his plants. He responded that after preparing his soil beds, he pretty much gives em plain water the whole time, I feel like I've kinda discovered a bastardized version of his methods, lol


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Face45 said:
@eastcoastled

Wicked!!! Very nice. I got a pack of Kimbo I'm saving for winter. I really wanted but never pulled the trigger on the Double Stuffed. I got a pack of Banana Dawg from the Thunder Stash drop.
Anyone grow out any of those strains? I'm itching to pop those as well, Ultimate Chem and Banana OG seems just silly loud...
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dude.. just ran some fudge gear that he's released under his own label and I'm beyond impressed. I didn't get a single plant I'd class as a keeper out of 50 seeds by other big name breeders including exotix (citrique and kimbof2) I'm happy to say I got 4 keepers out of 8 fudge females and there wasn't a single plant I wasn't happy with. And I'm fussy as hell! He's a real breeder, stress testing his males like a conscientious breeder should. I've stocked up on about 10 packs now and plan to work my way through all his males. Next run I'm growing NorCal fire og x UCSFV aka towering inferno. I see why his seeds would sell out fast when he released with exotix. Here's some pics from current crop.
Ultrabrite (white x UC08) kicks the chem d terps but with colours, better structure, faster finishing times and density in my opinion. 2 phenos here IMG_7595.JPGIMG_7596.JPGIMG_7597.JPGIMG_7601.JPGIMG_7602.JPG
 
limonene said:
I ran citrique and it hermed
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Damn. I have a pack of that in the fridge. Did you germinate the whole pack or just run a few seeds? I hope my pack of Future doesn't do that. The black mambas I'm finishing right now all turned out really frosty, but only 2 of the 5 phenos have the calyx to leaf ratio I'm happy with. No herms though. I run recirculating hydro. I'll try to get some pics soon.
 
bobrown14 said:
Really.. man I have 2 packs of that. What were your grow conditions??.... usually stress will cause that and of course genetics.
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Yeah it is possible it was my fault however I've been growing for 18 years and that was my first plant to throw pollen in that time. It didn't ruin the crop but the citrique came out really horrible. Ballsacks and nanners galore. I've put a video of it on IG, the plant looks nice until you see all the horrible nanners sticking out.
 
I can say that all the gear Thunderfudge released under the ExoticGenetics Thunders Stash release was/is some serious fire. And the most stable line of seeds I've come across. I grow with stress conditions basically, so anything that can herm will herm in my garden. In the Thunder gear has stayed true across strains.

My favorite is the Ultrabrite. I've been running this cut about a year now.
Keepers are easy to find in his gear.IMG_20170604_215818_800.jpg
 
Face45 said:
I would say it's a medium yielder, solid but not spectacular. When I get back to my room I'll post the full plant pics, as well as the "B" pheno, which has VERY low bud to leaf ratio, and is a HUGE yielder, but takes 77-84 days it seems to fully finish. So I'm still on the fence whether or not it's a keeper. The only negative on this B pheno is the flower time...Also, where as the A is just Gas, the "B" is about as lime as lime gets, lol...
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Talking with exotic last august at cannabis cup batch 45 is their green ribbon bx crossed with a kush. I've finished about forty or so of those seeds and had most finish in about 65ish days. All were fire ass plants bud to leaf for me was pretty decent I'd have to look at my logbook but I got a pretty decent yield off those, most had nice super dense buds very resinous and like you said smelled like limes and gasoline with a tiny bit of a piney smell.
 
bobrown14 said:
You running soil-less medium?? or soil and chems?

Not sure what this "flush" is you speak of.

First off, chems in soil don't does not mean chems in flowers... that's physically and chemically impossible. IF what you want to remove excess nitrates, try just watering straight water, don't "flush" with excess water.

Doing that just drowns all the micro-organisms and the roots... doesn't change the flavor of the flowers.
What you do with that "flush" is basically stopping or slowing down and killing the plants growth. Not the best approach going down the stretch when we want out flowers to be putting on weight. Just sayin....

It's the micro-organisms that break down the excess fertilizer into nitrogen gas, drowning the micro-herd is actually doing the exact opposite of your intended result.

If you want better smoother tasting buds, try organic soil. Gonna be a lot easier work wise = mix soil, plant plants & water. I have the water and lights automated. I can go away for weeks at a time and don't have to do anything.

The thing with fertilizer is the plant grows too much leaf and so you're burning more chlorophyll which is harsh when you smoke it. By the time my plants are ready for harvest a lot of the leaves are very yellow or they already fell off, leaving me with a very easy trim job smooth tasty flowers and minimum cure time.
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I run super soil in seven gallon pots with that soil my leaves are still nice a green. Never had harsh smoke as chlorophyll is broken down during the drying and curing phase get that right and you'll never have a bad smoke. Flushing to me is a crock of shit.
 
Lordhooha said:
I run super soil in seven gallon pots with that soil my leaves are still nice a green. Never had harsh smoke as chlorophyll is broken down during the drying and curing phase get that right and you'll never have a bad smoke. Flushing to me is a crock of shit.
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I definitely think it ,( The 45) Doesn't need any type of flush. Those Chem type plants seem to LOVE minerals, hard water in particular, lol. I got four finishing In a few weeks, I'll take a cue from you guys this time and not flush to see the difference, maybe that's why the buds weren't as dense on the "A" Pheno, still dialing in.. And I can see what you mean, the structure on my " A" pheno is VERY Kushy, I just usually get massive buds from kushes, but this could have been an issue with the flushing, so I will try not flushing this run.....
 
I must have a " Kush" dominant pheno and a Green Ribbon mega-yielder...

Appreciate you sharing that, I'm looking at the new line, seeds here now is giving away Batch 81, I'm VERY intrigued to say the least....
 
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