Spuzzum
Well-Known Member
I originally intended this mod for a cheap-assed 'Top Vapor' (aka 'Noble Vapor') unit that I have, along with the filling chamber of a Deluxe Daddy whip, and the Volcano Easy Valve kit. The filling chamber fits perfectly in the bottom of the easy valve unit. I soon realised not only was the Top Vapor's heating element metal, and not ceramic, but the glass tube didn't have the necessary lip/gap for proper air flow through the unit. It started to fill the bag.. but the stream wasn't strong enough, only filling about 1/4.. if that. Useless.
I'd already bought the easy valve starter kit though.. $134, and a bag already tested. There's no way in hell I can afford $800 for a Volcano, so the cheapest alternative I could find was the Extreme Q. I specifically wanted a bag unit, but didn't like Arizer's bag setup.. the elbow unit didn't look sturdy enough, and the bags didn't have a valve unit. Yes, you can buy valves.. but they just aren't the same as the Volcano's. But seeing as the Extreme Q's bowls are the same diameter as the Deluxe Daddy's, I decided to spend another $180 for the Extreme Q.
The Deluxe Daddy bowl fits perfectly, and the Easy Valve housing has just enough room to sit on top without touching the top of the Extreme Q's opening. It needed a strip of silicone tape to seal the Deluxe Daddy chamber to the Easy Valve housing unit a bit better though.. it filled the bags about 4/5ths before back pressure started coming out of the housing unit. The silicone tape is good to 500F, and it's non-toxic. In fact.. the actual bowl that comes with the Extreme Q 'looks' like it has a strip of it as well.. the black band seems to have a seam, suggesting it was wrapped.. not dipped. I needed to use the Deluxe Daddy 'party size' filling chamber though.. gave about 1/8" more height to the unit before attaching the Easy Valve chamber, giving more to tape and seal to. The stuff stretches and seals pretty well, and can be peeled off and replaced if and when you need to remove the stainless steel portion of the Easy Valve chamber. The tape's $10 for 10 feet... I think I used 1 foot in total... it should last a year or so. I think.
After taping the filling chamber to the Easy valve housing unit, I inserted the unit into the Extreme Q, set the temp to 260C/500F, set the fan to 3, and let it run for 1/2 hour. The silicone tape seemed to have shrunk and sealed a bit more, but held out just fine. 450F's the combustion point of cannabis, so you'd never hit 500 unless you wanted to. I run it at 230C/446F myself. I used to run 216C/420F, but found 446F a bit better. Personal preference.
The best part of using the Volcano's filling chamber instead of the glass bowls such as the one with the Extreme Q, is the Volcano chamber's got a wider surface area for the cannabis, and the housing unit creates a better convection process. From a cook's point of view anyway. It just seems to cook the material more evenly... the first time around.
Party bowl on the left, regular on the right. I lost the silicone ring for the party bowl, so had to use 2 smaller rings. The ring's needed to sit the Easy Valve housing unit on.
Gives just enough room.
The bottom of the Easy Valve housing unit. Those tabs need to be accessible if and when you remove the stainless steel bowl. The screen pops out when the units are connected and sealed with silicone tape still though.. you just need to remove and replace the tape as needed.
Fits perfectly. An actual fitted silicone adapter would be nice though.
All sealed up. Trim as needed.
They were made for each other.
So after the 10 minutes of oh so hard work, followed by the 30 minutes of pre-use burn-off... it was time to test.. and a reward.
The unit was set on fan 1, and took less than 2 minutes to fill.. I forgot to time it. I got 2 full bags from that bowl.. which was only 1/2 full to begin with.
Overall.. I'm a little pissed that my original vaporizer wasn't up to par, not knowing until after I bought the Easy Valve starter kit. My fault.. I didn't think it through enough. But in the end.. I couldn't be happier with the outcome of this mod and the Extreme Q. For less than $400, it's as close to the Volcano as you're going to get.. for 1/2 the price. You can change the bags on the Easy Valve as well.. not as easy as the Solid Valve, but it's still pretty easy. Buddy that runs the club I use said he has 4 or 5 boxes still.. said I can have them for free.
Parts List (in Canadian):
Arizer Extreme Q Vaporizer - $180
http://www.puffpipes.ca/E-1_p_1037.html
Volcano Easy Valve Kit - $134.00
http://www.puffpipes.ca/V-EASY-VALVE-KIT_p_4826.html
Deluxe Daddy Filling Chamber (TV-W113 Large) - $15
https://vaporizers.ca/products/vapor-deluxe-daddy-filling-chambers
Silicone Tape (1") (-65F - 500F) - $10
https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.nashua-stretch--seal-silicone-sealing-tape-black-1in-x-10ft.1000405020.html
TOTAL: $339 ($380 inc)
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Most smoke shops should already carry these items.. if not, there's plenty other shops online if you're not in Canada.
I'd already bought the easy valve starter kit though.. $134, and a bag already tested. There's no way in hell I can afford $800 for a Volcano, so the cheapest alternative I could find was the Extreme Q. I specifically wanted a bag unit, but didn't like Arizer's bag setup.. the elbow unit didn't look sturdy enough, and the bags didn't have a valve unit. Yes, you can buy valves.. but they just aren't the same as the Volcano's. But seeing as the Extreme Q's bowls are the same diameter as the Deluxe Daddy's, I decided to spend another $180 for the Extreme Q.
The Deluxe Daddy bowl fits perfectly, and the Easy Valve housing has just enough room to sit on top without touching the top of the Extreme Q's opening. It needed a strip of silicone tape to seal the Deluxe Daddy chamber to the Easy Valve housing unit a bit better though.. it filled the bags about 4/5ths before back pressure started coming out of the housing unit. The silicone tape is good to 500F, and it's non-toxic. In fact.. the actual bowl that comes with the Extreme Q 'looks' like it has a strip of it as well.. the black band seems to have a seam, suggesting it was wrapped.. not dipped. I needed to use the Deluxe Daddy 'party size' filling chamber though.. gave about 1/8" more height to the unit before attaching the Easy Valve chamber, giving more to tape and seal to. The stuff stretches and seals pretty well, and can be peeled off and replaced if and when you need to remove the stainless steel portion of the Easy Valve chamber. The tape's $10 for 10 feet... I think I used 1 foot in total... it should last a year or so. I think.
After taping the filling chamber to the Easy valve housing unit, I inserted the unit into the Extreme Q, set the temp to 260C/500F, set the fan to 3, and let it run for 1/2 hour. The silicone tape seemed to have shrunk and sealed a bit more, but held out just fine. 450F's the combustion point of cannabis, so you'd never hit 500 unless you wanted to. I run it at 230C/446F myself. I used to run 216C/420F, but found 446F a bit better. Personal preference.
The best part of using the Volcano's filling chamber instead of the glass bowls such as the one with the Extreme Q, is the Volcano chamber's got a wider surface area for the cannabis, and the housing unit creates a better convection process. From a cook's point of view anyway. It just seems to cook the material more evenly... the first time around.
Party bowl on the left, regular on the right. I lost the silicone ring for the party bowl, so had to use 2 smaller rings. The ring's needed to sit the Easy Valve housing unit on.
Gives just enough room.
The bottom of the Easy Valve housing unit. Those tabs need to be accessible if and when you remove the stainless steel bowl. The screen pops out when the units are connected and sealed with silicone tape still though.. you just need to remove and replace the tape as needed.
Fits perfectly. An actual fitted silicone adapter would be nice though.
All sealed up. Trim as needed.
They were made for each other.
So after the 10 minutes of oh so hard work, followed by the 30 minutes of pre-use burn-off... it was time to test.. and a reward.
The unit was set on fan 1, and took less than 2 minutes to fill.. I forgot to time it. I got 2 full bags from that bowl.. which was only 1/2 full to begin with.
Overall.. I'm a little pissed that my original vaporizer wasn't up to par, not knowing until after I bought the Easy Valve starter kit. My fault.. I didn't think it through enough. But in the end.. I couldn't be happier with the outcome of this mod and the Extreme Q. For less than $400, it's as close to the Volcano as you're going to get.. for 1/2 the price. You can change the bags on the Easy Valve as well.. not as easy as the Solid Valve, but it's still pretty easy. Buddy that runs the club I use said he has 4 or 5 boxes still.. said I can have them for free.
Parts List (in Canadian):
Arizer Extreme Q Vaporizer - $180
http://www.puffpipes.ca/E-1_p_1037.html
Volcano Easy Valve Kit - $134.00
http://www.puffpipes.ca/V-EASY-VALVE-KIT_p_4826.html
Deluxe Daddy Filling Chamber (TV-W113 Large) - $15
https://vaporizers.ca/products/vapor-deluxe-daddy-filling-chambers
Silicone Tape (1") (-65F - 500F) - $10
https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.nashua-stretch--seal-silicone-sealing-tape-black-1in-x-10ft.1000405020.html
TOTAL: $339 ($380 inc)
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Most smoke shops should already carry these items.. if not, there's plenty other shops online if you're not in Canada.
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