Midweek Song Review

Olive Drab Green

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no one was putting "fault" on anyone, we/they are saying it is the SELLERS responsibility when old seeds are sold. It isn't the breeders responsibility to make it right with the buyer. it is the SELLERS job to make sure they have current stock. THAT is ALL!!!
I am positive current stock wasn't the issue. Therefore, not the seller's fault. What if I sold seeds and you lied and told me a whole pack of your seeds didn't germinate when nothing was wrong with them, you were just greedy? I should just take your word for it and replace it?

If you don't like playing the lottery, stop growing Cannabis. Or wait until it becomes legitimized.
 

Dr.Nick Riviera

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I am positive current stock wasn't the issue. Therefore, not the seller's fault. What if I sold seeds and you lied and told me a whole pack of your seeds didn't germinate when nothing was wrong with them, you were just greedy? I should just take your word for it and replace it?

If you don't like playing the lottery, stop growing Cannabis. Or wait until it becomes legitimized.
well, i DID have problem and i sucked it up and didn't try and get ANYTHING, even though I spent a few hundred bucks, but that doesn't count for shit huh? and I didn't like playing the lottery with MWS, that is why I will order from banks in the US from now on
 

Olive Drab Green

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well, i DID have problem and i sucked it up and didn't try and get ANYTHING, even though I spent a few hundred bucks, but that doesn't count for shit huh? and I didn't like playing the lottery with MWS, that is why I will order from banks in the US from now on
So, are you saying all few hundred dollars worth of seeds didn't germinate? Because that's one I would definitely attribute to grower error.
 

Olive Drab Green

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thanks for showing potential MWS customers what they have to look forward to. I'm sure lewis appreciates you stepping up for him,lol
Oh, look, you're back. Why am I not surprised?

Yes, this is what they have to look forward to from Lewis. Mind you, all this is only under 241w of light.

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I'm sure any prospective customer if MWS should be satisfied by what MWS has available and won't be disappointed.
 

Dr.Nick Riviera

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Oh, look, you're back. Why am I not surprised?

Yes, this is what they have to look forward to from Lewis. Mind you, all this is only under 241w of light.

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I'm sure any prospective customer if MWS should be satisfied by what MWS has available and won't be disappointed.
make up your mind, either the breeder is responsible for the seeds or the seedbank is. now you're claiming the bank is why you have pretty pictures.lmfao
 

Olive Drab Green

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make up your mind, either the breeder is responsible for the seeds or the seedbank is. now you're claiming the bank is why you have pretty pictures.lmfao
When did I ever claim the bank was to blame? My point is, I have never had a bad seed from them.

And you must be getting frustrated a bit. You keep looking for new angles under my skin.
 

eastcoastmo

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Out of interest old mate, did MWS get back to you yet?
He did this morning mate. Lewis said that the suppliers have had no reports of germ issues. Of course they will say that, they dont want to lose money on old beans now. BCSC doesnt exist anymore from my research, they are freakin ghosts. I told Lewis I'm not after refunds or replacements, more for MWS to not sell them. This is the third lot of the same strain from 3 different banks that haven't germed! Also had a pack of their NL5 not pop too!
 

Lucky Luke

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No one is saying the banks are to blame.

But the recourse should be through the banks (and is). Its who we deal with. Thats what we are saying.
Its up to the Banks to quality control their stockpile and also make sure that the stock they are receiving is first rate.


The banks should not be dealing with anything but quality breeders. They are in the "know" and should only be dealing with quality operators.

I think we all agree on that.
 

eastcoastmo

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I know, I know. Fool me once etc etc.
I really wanted that strain as it was one of the first I ever grew back in the late 90's, I kept hoping for just one to pop.....won't fool me again!
 

Olive Drab Green

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No one is saying the banks are to blame.

But the recourse should be through the banks (and is). Its who we deal with. Thats what we are saying.
Its up to the Banks to quality control their stockpile and also make sure that the stock they are receiving is first rate.


The banks should not be dealing with anything but quality breeders. They are in the "know" and should only be dealing with quality operators.

I think we all agree on that.
How do you expect a bank to inspect a breeder's pack full of seeds with no production date, lot number, or anything else to keep track of their quality?

You are implying there is a way to tell quality and stock age from simply looking at the seeds or their packaging, and there isn't. Even the banks wouldn't be able to preempt a shitty batch. So it isn't up to them. It's just hit or miss.

That aside, the seeds are legally sold "as souvenirs." All banks usually state that. This implies that the risk is yours, not theirs, and if you germinate, what comes of it is on you, and you agreed to it when you bought from them.

Also, you were saying all along that it was the bank's fault.
 

Lucky Luke

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How do you expect a bank to inspect a breeder's pack full of seeds with no production date, lot number, or anything else to keep track of their quality?


Also, you were saying all along that it was the bank's fault.
I have no idea, thats their problem. maybe two dates on packaging? best after and before? Would be a good start.

And why do you keep arguing for the sake of arguing? Where did i say it was the banks fault?
 

Olive Drab Green

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I have no idea, thats their problem. maybe two dates on packaging? best after and before? Would be a good start.

And why do you keep arguing for the sake of arguing? Where did i say it was the banks fault?
I mean, I'm not trying to argue with you.

That probably would be a good first step in the right direction for everyone.
 

abe supercro

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Perhaps off-topic-
:eyesmoke: long ramble, do-not-read. [TL/DR]

Remember when a buncha tshirts n coffee mugs were gettin snagged going thru Chicago for several years? that was a turning-point for me!

The last order I've ever made from overseas (from the tude) happened to get the dreaded green-tape from Customs and my beans were gone. Even though the seeds were insured for no-charge replacements, i still said, Fk-it and just discontinued anymore overseas purchases. Insurance was an xtra 20$ and I paid it but didn't want anymore hassle. So that order was over 300$ that i sacrificed, knowing that American Seedbanks would simply be an easier choice and likely with less liability on my end.

ALL 'banks' have to keep uppin their game and provide impeccable customer service to retain business. A company from outside of the u.s., especially, has to standout and get completely behind their products to compete (now) with any of the american companies. How times have changed for foreign seedbanks; We're no longer at the mercy of Marc Emery or The Attitude.

If I have a problem, they/whomever (generally) needs to reimburse or replace imo. And I only mean, within reason and with certain guidelines to also protect the seedbank some, as well as, the customer. Then, they can take it up with their suppliers of beans, aka the breeders, if they believe it was a bad batch. The banks figure it out from complaints if the beans were good or not, that's part of their job. I'm assuming that they are properly maintaining inventory conditions on their end.

Basically- I'm not dropping a few hundo here and there, to not be satisfied one hunnit percent. .o2
 

Olive Drab Green

Well-Known Member
Perhaps off-topic-
:eyesmoke: long ramble, do-not-read. [TL/DR]

Remember when a buncha tshirts n coffee mugs were gettin snagged going thru Chicago for several years? that was a turning-point for me!

The last order I've ever made from overseas (from the tude) happened to get the dreaded green-tape from Customs and my beans were gone. Even though the seeds were insured for no-charge replacements, i still said, Fk-it and just discontinued anymore overseas purchases. Insurance was an xtra 20$ and I paid it but didn't want anymore hassle. So that order was over 300$ that i sacrificed, knowing that American Seedbanks would simply be an easier choice and likely with less liability on my end.

ALL 'banks' have to keep uppin their game and provide impeccable customer service to retain business. A company from outside of the u.s., especially, has to standout and get completely behind their products to compete (now) with any of the american companies. How times have changed for foreign seedbanks; We're no longer at the mercy of Marc Emery or The Attitude.

If I have a problem, they/whomever (generally) needs to reimburse or replace imo. And I only mean, within reason and with certain guidelines to also protect the seedbank some, as well as, the customer. Then, they can take it up with their suppliers of beans, aka the breeders, if they believe it was a bad batch. The banks figure it out from complaints if the beans were good or not, that's part of their job. I'm assuming that they are properly maintaining inventory conditions on their end.

Basically- I'm not dropping a few hundo here and there, to not be satisfied one hunnit percent. .o2
Any recommendations for US based banks?
 
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