Clown Show

[londonfog]

He needs to open a private club, then he can legally pick and choose members based on whatever retraded creed he wants.

Look it up, its a crazy technicality in most places around the world.

I agree and he has been told this time and time again.
Best that he doesn't understand or we may have an opening club featuring white only pedophiles

 

[Rob Roy]

No one is forcing anyone to open a public business. That is a choice one makes.
Why would you support a racist bigot ? Why do you not support civil rights ?
What if your son was in a bad car accident ( never would want this ) and he was taken to a hospital where he was told the doctor on ER call does not treat gays. Would you still say people should not be force to act at services open to the public.

I don't support racism. I support every persons right, to chose their interactions and be free from others creating a forcible interaction on the property or person of another human being, even if that person is a racist.

A person can be a racist, which I disapprove of, while still maintaining their right to be free from an unwanted forcible interaction or be free from having their right to control their own body and property violated.

The burden of proof is on you to prove where you get the right to force another person to serve you. Since nobody has that right and if you say people do, you are defending the same right a slave holder claimed to have. Why ?

 

[SneekyNinja]

I agree and he has been told this time and time again.
Best that he doesn't understand or we may have an opening club featuring white only pedophiles

He could just join NAMBLA...like Donald "Terrific Coke" Trump.

 

[londonfog]

I don't support racism. I support every persons right, to chose their interactions and be free from others creating a forcible interaction on the property or person of another human being, even if that person is a racist.

A person can be a racist, which I disapprove of, while still maintaining their right to be free from an unwanted forcible interaction or be free from having their right to control their own body and property violated.

The burden of proof is on you to prove where you get the right to force another person to serve you. Since nobody has that right and if you say people do, you are defending the same right a slave holder claimed to have. Why ?

you didn't answer the question. Would you still stand by your beliefs if your son needed medical attention but was denied due to being gay. Would you let your son die for your beliefs that no one should be force to interact in business open to the public.

 

[Rob Roy]

I agree and he has been told this time and time again.
Best that he doesn't understand or we may have an opening club featuring white only pedophiles

Repeating a thing which is wrong time and time again won't change it to being right.

How does a group of people come to acquire a right which none of the individuals within that group possesses ? It is impossible.

If you can't make a person serve you or force a human interaction without being wrong, how does that same action become right if a bunch of people who call themselves government approve of doing it to someone?

That's like saying you disapprove of solo rape, but you'll stand in line and be the 5th rapist.

 

[Big_Lou]

did you count how many hispanic babies there were?

Damn right, it's the FIRST thing I do when I hit the strip club -- I demand the TASTIEST in adult entertainment!!

Ohhhhh, forget it.....I thought you said "Hispanic BABES", my bad....

 

[Rob Roy]

He could just join NAMBLA...like Donald "Terrific Coke" Trump.

I figured since you couldn't mount a salient argument to refute mine, it wouldn't take long for you to
make shit up.

Donald Trump is a bozo. Hillary is a thug. You are a prohibitionist and lie like a rug. (I got rhymes)

 

[londonfog]

@Rob Roy do you have an answer about your son and denial of medical treatment due to gay ?

 

[Rob Roy]

you didn't answer the question. Would you still stand by your beliefs if your son needed medical attention but was denied due to being gay. Would you let your son die for your beliefs that no one should be force to interact in business open to the public.

If you have to force somebody to interact with you, who prefers not to would you then also trust the service ? That would be like asking the person you're raping to moan a little and pretend they like it.

I wouldn't be responsible for my sons death in your hypothetical scenario. The only way I'd be responsible is if I as an individual killed him. Using your flawed logic, if you are starving to death, and I have a store of food I would be responsible for your starvation.

If I am handsome and get laid all the time and you are ugly as a boot and never get laid, that somehow I am responsible for your calloused hand. No wait, that wouldn't happen, you'd just go force yourself on someone.

 

[Rob Roy]

@Rob Roy do you have an answer about your son and denial of medical treatment due to gay ?

Sorry I didn't serve you fast enough.

 

[londonfog]

If you have to force somebody to interact with you, who prefers not to would you then also trust the service ? That would be like asking the person you're raping to moan a little and pretend they like it.

I wouldn't be responsible for my sons death in your hypothetical scenario. The only way I'd be responsible is if I as an individual killed him. Using your flawed logic, if you are starving to death, and I have a store of food I would be responsible for your starvation.

If I am handsome and get laid all the time and you are ugly as a boot and never get laid, that somehow I am responsible for your calloused hand. No wait, that wouldn't happen, you'd just go force yourself on someone.

Dude what in the fuck. So you cool with your son being denied service at a hospital due to sexual preference, resulting in death.
Unfuckingbelievable

 

[londonfog]

Sorry I didn't serve you fast enough.

very disappointed in you. This might have topped your support for pedophiles. No beer for you ever !!!!!

 

[Rob Roy]

Dude what in the fuck. So you cool with your son being denied service at a hospital due to sexual preference, resulting in death.
Unfuckingbelievable

No. Just like I'm not cool with a person who is homophobic or a racist. That's not the issue though.

How does a homophobes belief in something I don't believe in, create a right which none of us have, that being a right to force another person to interact with me or you if they prefer not to ?

You've never answered the question I posed. Can you?

You are defending the right to use offensive force to get what you want. That's a slippery slope and is indefensible.

 

[Rob Roy]

very disappointed in you. This might have topped your support for pedophiles. No beer for you ever !!!!!

Well you almost got that right. I'm temporarily out of beer.

 

[londonfog]

No. Just like I'm not cool with a person who is homophobic or a racist. That's not the issue though.

How does a homophobes belief in something I don't believe in, create a right which none of us have, that being a right to force another person to interact with me or you if they prefer not to ?

You've never answered the question I posed. Can you?

You are defending the right to use offensive force to get what you want. That's a slippery slope and is indefensible.

dude if my son is taken to a public hospital and denied service due to color of skin, resulting in his death. I would pay out justice to the racist fuck who worked there. so I guess we think different.
Question... how can you not use force to prevent someone from coming into your store open to the public ? Call the police ?

 

[londonfog]

Well you almost got that right. I'm temporarily out of beer.

When you get released start brewing you own.

 

[Drowning-Man]

Dude what in the fuck. So you cool with your son being denied service at a hospital due to sexual preference, resulting in death.
Unfuckingbelievable

You do realize that hospitals are required by law to treat you.

 

[ttystikk]

I'm hoping an asteroid hits hofstra university in 45 minutes

You and me were both sorely disappointed on this score.

 

[Rob Roy]

dude if my son is taken to a public hospital and denied service due to color of skin, resulting in his death. I would pay out justice to the racist fuck who worked there. so I guess we think different.
Question... how can you not use force to prevent someone from coming into your store open to the public ? Call the police ?

You should gain a better understanding of what constitutes offensive force and what constitutes defensive force.

One is nobody's right, the other is everyone's right.

Your love for your son is admirable, but it doesn't create a right for you to force somebody to serve you if they prefer not to. I love each of my sons too, and just like you would defend them against somebody initiating force against them, but you still haven't explained where the right to force a person to interact with them comes from. You are claiming you have that right.

A person who forces someone to interact with them is using offensive force. Offensive force is unjustifiable.

A person who doesn't want to interact with you or me has a right to repel us if we go to their property and insist they do. That is defensive force and is justifiable.

 

[Rob Roy]

You do realize that hospitals are required by law to treat you.

People were required by law to return runaway slaves too. People are required to fund murder and police who shoot babies too.

If a person is required to serve another person, isn't that a form of involuntary servitude ?