Gavita's are they really worth the price ??

[adower]

Huh? Yeah rite...invest in expensive solar panels to grow weed inddors under energy hogging grow lamps...yeah rite. Why not just skip all the madness (which made sense in the dark days when it all moved indoors to not get caught) and grow in a highly efficient greenhouse with all the fixins? The whole reason and indoor growing paradigm is changing and slowly fading away in direct proportion to the state of acceptance amd legalization.

Because if you live in an residential area a green house looks out of place. The solar panels will offset some of the cost of electricity. Indoor isn't going to go anywhere. Look at all the fat warehouse grows in Colorado. In my opinion you get a cleaner product with Indoor

 

[since1991]

Once price drops low if it ever does is when you invest in solar.

Thats like in a three stooges episode where they are trying to get in a locked house and moe tells curly to climb through the window unlock the door. So he does but climbs back out the window so they all walk in. Lol

 

[ttystikk]

at times, doing what you love, GROWING. becomes a curse, i think about giving up what i love simply because of the stress,, i never thought growing legally would have caused more stress than illegally.. i swear with each funeral i attend,,i get closer to quitting this truly painfull journey..

But those still with us still need our help.

I do hope you didn't disappear, drop me a note or pm sometime?

 

[since1991]

Because if you live in an residential area a green house looks out of place. The solar panels will offset some of the cost of electricity. Indoor isn't going to go anywhere. Look at all the fat warehouse grows in Colorado. In my opinion you get a cleaner product with Indoor

The only reason those "fat warehouses" are popping up is because of the semi and quasi legality....thus still high priced...of cannabis. Those warehouses wont be growing shit when eventually pot drops so low in price. When big ag takes over. ....100 dollars a poind is a HUGE profit margin...moreso than any ag crop on the planet. You cant see the forest for the trees bro. There are ways to grow pot in huge amounts as cheaply as possible...but cheaply as possible isnt that important...yet.

 

[since1991]

You have to understand....what iam talking about is still a ways away...but i believe not as long as some might think.

 

[ttystikk]

The only way weed prices are going to fall as hard and fast as you crazies seem to think is if America decides to quit pussyfooting around and jump into the deep end of legalizing recreational across the board (Feds change their tune). And that is not happening in the next 5 years, sorry. Just have to get your supply to where the demand is...

It's a weed that grows well outdoors. The idea that is going to take a long time to figure this out is kinda funny, every time I look at a cornfield.

The trend in Colorado hydro stores now is more and more farm boys applying mass production techniques to cannabis, both indoors and out.

$500 pounds for outdoor is a number I've already heard and it's still August.

 

[adower]

The only reason those "fat warehouses" are popping up is because of the semi and quasi legality....thus still high priced...of cannabis. Those warehouses wont be growing shit when eventually pot drops so low in price. When big ag takes over. ....100 dollars a poind is a HUGE profit margin...moreso than any ag crop on the planet. You cant see the forest for the trees bro. There are ways to grow pot in huge amounts as cheaply as possible...but cheaply as possible isnt that important...yet.

How long have people been talking about big ag taking over or it going legal federally? That not happening anytime soon.

 

[since1991]

It's a weed that grows well outdoors. The idea that is going to take a long time to figure this out is kinda funny, every time I look at a cornfield.

The trend in Colorado hydro stores now is more and more farm boys applying mass production techniques to cannabis, both indoors and out.

$500 pounds for outdoor is a number I've already heard and it's still August.

And who (most growers) can make a profit off of 500 or less per.pound running normal hid type setups? The smaller house type setups will be the first to call it quits. And actually...i know of several growers that already have. Or scaled.down drastically because of electric bills and focused more.on outdoor or greenhouse.

 

[adower]

It's a weed that grows well outdoors. The idea that is going to take a long time to figure this out is kinda funny, every time I look at a cornfield.

The trend in Colorado hydro stores now is more and more farm boys applying mass production techniques to cannabis, both indoors and out.

$500 pounds for outdoor is a number I've already heard and it's still August.

There is more too it than that. There are groups of people with tons of money that will fight it.

 

[Shugglet]

It's a weed that grows well outdoors. The idea that is going to take a long time to figure this out is kinda funny, every time I look at a cornfield.

The trend in Colorado hydro stores now is more and more farm boys applying mass production techniques to cannabis, both indoors and out.

$500 pounds for outdoor is a number I've already heard and it's still August.

Yep, it grows well everywhere. Yet as long as there's places where youll end up in prison for years for cultivating it, it will be more than $500/lb.

Go to a state where it is not rec legal and see how much an LB goes for. Like I said, its a big market, and legal spots arent the rule for pricing, theyre the exception to the rule.

Which goes back to my original argument. Prices wont be like that until a majority of the states legalize it for recreational.

 

[Shugglet]

People in recreation legal states need to remember that they literally are in their own little world.

 

[adower]

And who (most growers) can make a profit off of 500 or less per.pound running normal hid type setups? The smaller house type setups will be the first to call it quits. And actually...i know of several growers that already have. Or scaled.down drastically because of electric bills and focused more.on outdoor or greenhouse.

Sounds like people need to make better business connections. There is no way that an electric bill should make you cut out growing if you know what you're doing.

 

[since1991]

How long have people been talking about big ag taking over or it going legal federally? That not happening anytime soon.

Actually not that long and i think it will happen sooner than you think. It all depends on what feds do. The recent dea decision to keep cannabis on the schedule where its at is prolonging the current state...but that will change. There is no way this can continue like it has. Popular attitude towards cannabis is drastically different than say...just a few years ago. To stick your head in the sand and say "it will never happen" is just dumb.

 

[since1991]

Sounds like people need to make better business connections. There is no way that an electric bill should make you cut out growing if you know what you're doing.

Wow. Just wow.

 

[since1991]

Wow. Just wow.

There will come a time when that electric bill totally indoors will absolutely outweigh the cost of a pound of pot. How long have you been at this bro...if you dont mind me asking?

 

[Shugglet]

The only reason those "fat warehouses" are popping up is because of the semi and quasi legality....thus still high priced...of cannabis. Those warehouses wont be growing shit when eventually pot drops so low in price. When big ag takes over. ....100 dollars a poind is a HUGE profit margin...moreso than any ag crop on the planet. You cant see the forest for the trees bro. There are ways to grow pot in huge amounts as cheaply as possible...but cheaply as possible isnt that important...yet.

Big AG wont touch it with a 10ft pole until the Feds deregulate. You think that is going to happen soon? Any logic behind how that would happen in the next 5 years? Youre so focused on the forest that cant see we havent even reached the woods yet.

 

[adower]

Actually not that long and i think it will happen sooner than you think. It all depends on what feds do. The recent dea decision to keep cannabis on the schedule where its at is prolonging the current state...but that will change. There is no way this can continue like it has. Popular attitude towards cannabis is drastically different than say...just a few years ago. To stick your head in the sand and say "it will never happen" is just dumb.

Its not going to happen anytime soon.

 

[Shugglet]

Also, you dont think lighting costs are going to come down in the next 5-10 years with the advancements taking place in LED tech???

You guys are all making crazy assumptions.

 

[adower]

There will come a time when that electric bill totally indoors will absolutely outweigh the cost of a pound of pot. How long have you been at this bro...if you dont mind me asking?

9 years. I've seen the prices drop over 2k a unit from when I started. Even so it is still not even nearly close to being unprofitable at this point.

 

[Shugglet]

Its not going to happen anytime soon.

Right, anyone saying its "never going to happen" is burying their head in the sand, I agree.

That said, thinking its going to happen in the very near future is probably also an argument towards having ones head buried in sand.
Thinking politically, Id say it has next to no chance in Hillary's first term. MAYBE her second, but thats a huge maybe. There are way bigger forces involved than simply public opinion.