Ttystikk's vertical goodness

ttystikk said:
My veg is all converted to Tupur by now and they're the healthiest girls I've had in years. I've no reason to suspect it won't continue like this through bloom, so I'm excited to watch it happen.
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Yup and if you keep your feeds the same when you first move from veg to bloom they will never skip a beat. Then once stretch is over you could tweak your feeds to more of a bloom nute.
Then if your still having issues in bloom you could tell me its the lights lol.im just saying simpler is better.my jacks feeds are real light first few weeks of bloom like my last week of veg,just 1 tsp per gal of the grow formula 20.20.20 so im really giving them something like 6.6.6.then i switch to the 10.30.20 formula @ similar strength so theres not alot of shock there im prob really giving them about 3.12.6 because of how light im feeding.then once i know shits firing on all cylinders around week 3 i jack it up to about full power maybe 650 to 700ppm for a few weeks like week 3.4.5.6 then i start to tapper back down to 400 for week 7 and shut em down with just ro and a few doses of molasses early in flush.
But if your still using your hydro formula it may not work as well,im not familiar with tupar.is it dirt ,peat or coco?
If its peat you need to drop your calnit and ph your feeds to 6.2.if its more like coco you could keep the ph where you had it and maybe cut the calnite by half what you were using in h2o
 
Tupur is coco, perlite and 'composted forest litter'.

Until my girls tell me there's a problem, I'm keeping my nutrient profile right where it is. It's working, so I'm in no mood to go fixing it.

The current batch in the COB LED rack is still in RDWC and I think that has a lot to do with what's going on. When I run a batch thru it in Tupur, I'll of course be watching for differences.
 
ttystikk said:
My veg is all converted to Tupur by now and they're the healthiest girls I've had in years. I've no reason to suspect it won't continue like this through bloom, so I'm excited to watch it happen.
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You and me both this is very exciting and although I have no where near your experience, these plants in the coco are my healthiest veg plants as well, and I can't wait to get a vert run in my 3x3 with the coco and the 600W :)
 
ttystikk said:
Tupur is coco, perlite and 'composted forest litter'.

Until my girls tell me there's a problem, I'm keeping my nutrient profile right where it is. It's working, so I'm in no mood to go fixing it.

The current batch in the COB LED rack is still in RDWC and I think that has a lot to do with what's going on. When I run a batch thru it in Tupur, I'll of course be watching for differences.
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I wouldn't be surprised if you see RWDC type growth but more consistent.
 
Coco is amazing! I recently started using it and I'm impressed. I've done DWC, and I've been growing organic for along time. My coco grows have been as trouble free as my organics, and more productive! I'm going to try a 20 gallon DIY bottom fed coco pot in the fall just for giggles. My auto pots produce well enough for my needs. Then, I'll add a vertical scrog also. Just too busy with the greenhouse to start a new indoor project.

I look forward to seeing you resolve this issue, we all learn alot from you!


ttystikk said:
My veg is all converted to Tupur by now and they're the healthiest girls I've had in years. I've no reason to suspect it won't continue like this through bloom, so I'm excited to watch it happen.
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pop22 said:
Coco is amazing! I recently started using it and I'm impressed. I've done DWC, and I've been growing organic for along time. My coco grows have been as trouble free as my organics, and more productive! I'm going to try a 20 gallon DIY bottom fed coco pot in the fall just for giggles. My auto pots produce well enough for my needs. Then, I'll add a vertical scrog also. Just too busy with the greenhouse to start a new indoor project.

I look forward to seeing you resolve this issue, we all learn alot from you!
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I've grown some pretty good chili peppers indoors in coco, but I didn't rock it very well with Cannabis on my first go. But this Tupur stuff looks rad, sort of a hydro soil hybrid mix, seems like. What pH range is your solution for it, @ttystikk?
 
Michael Huntherz said:
I've grown some pretty good chili peppers indoors in coco, but I didn't rock it very well with Cannabis on my first go. But this Tupur stuff looks rad, sort of a hydro soil hybrid mix, seems like. What pH range is your solution for it, @ttystikk?
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Here's the queerest part; I'm still running the very same hydroponic nutrients I always was, even the same ratios. I've adjusted my EC upwards to 2.3-2.5 and pH to 6.0 in veg.

They're leaping for joy, it's a night and day difference. Rich green, visibly bigger every few hours, new leaf sets daily, etc.

Some credit surely goes to the 3500K COB LED lighting, this is by far the healthiest batch of plants I've grown indoors in a long time.

FUCK RDWC. Too damned finicky and shit never looked this good for me. I needn't wait to dial in, Tupur is powerful stuff.
 
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ttystikk said:
Here's the queerest part; I'm still timing the very same hydroponic nutrients I always was, in the same ratios. I've adjusted my EC upwards to 2.3-2.5 and pH to 6.0 in veg.

They're leaping for joy, it's a night and day difference. Rich green, visibly bigger every few hours, new leaf sets daily, etc.

Some credit surely goes to the 3500K COB LED lighting, this is by far the healthiest batch of plants I've grown indoors in a long time.

FUCK RDWC. Too damned finicky and shit never looked this good for me. I needn't wait to dial in, Tupur is powerful stuff.
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Sometimes simple is better....
 
ttystikk said:
Here's the queerest part; I'm still timing the very same hydroponic nutrients I always was, in the same ratios. I've adjusted my EC upwards to 2.3-2.5 and pH to 6.0 in veg.

They're leaping for joy, it's a night and day difference. Rich green, visibly bigger every few hours, new leaf sets daily, etc.

Some credit surely goes to the 3500K COB LED lighting, this is by far the healthiest batch of plants I've grown indoors in a long time.

FUCK RDWC. Too damned finicky and shit never looked this good for me. I needn't wait to dial in, Tupur is powerful stuff.
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How old are your plants when you are hitting an EC of 2.3-2.5? Are you top watering? My seedlings are two weeks old, also trying tupur but daily watering with just 0.2 EC.. Still trying to feel out the nutrient concentrations as I've burned the shit out of five week old plants with an EC of 0.6 before.
 
DesertGrow89 said:
How old are your plants when you are hitting an EC of 2.3-2.5? Are you top watering? My seedlings are two weeks old, also trying tupur but daily watering with just 0.2 EC.. Still trying to feel out the nutrient concentrations as I've burned the shit out of five week old plants with an EC of 0.6 before.
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Wow that's lol ec. My clones that a rooting at the moment are on 0.55ec and loving it. In veg id get it up to 1.3ec for plants that are 5 weeks old.
 
DesertGrow89 said:
How old are your plants when you are hitting an EC of 2.3-2.5? Are you top watering? My seedlings are two weeks old, also trying tupur but daily watering with just 0.2 EC.. Still trying to feel out the nutrient concentrations as I've burned the shit out of five week old plants with an EC of 0.6 before.
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Young plants, like just rooted clones. I'm running strong lighting in early veg, 225W COB LED, which may help explain things. Yet the substrate is really doing an excellent job of buffering. I treat it like hydroton; I pour a lot more nutrient solution in than the pot needs, by easily 50% or more, and its drainage prevents saturation. Doing this of course prevents salt buildup, another bonus.

I'm running a recirculating water system, think of it as a turbocharged SIPS. With luck, this will allow the plants to get as big as they want without being limited by pot size.
 
kiwipaulie said:
I guess different strains will like different levels
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Not here. I have an embarrassing number of strains going and they all love it without exception. Every leaf is green. No burnt tips. Growing like mad. Any whisker of roots on a clone and it survives and thrives right away when transplanted into Tupur. Threw in a couple I thought wouldn't make it and they're fine.

No, I'm not a Tupur sales rep, I swear lol
 
ttystikk said:
Young plants, like just rooted clones. I'm running strong lighting in early veg, 225W COB LED, which may help explain things. Yet the substrate is really doing an excellent job of buffering. I treat it like hydroton; I pour a lot more nutrient solution in than the pot needs, by easily 50% or more, and its drainage prevents saturation. Doing this of course prevents salt buildup, another bonus.

I'm running a recirculating water system, think of it as a turbocharged SIPS. With luck, this will allow the plants to get as big as they want without being limited by pot size.
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So is pouring in a lot more solution than needed kind of like what rm3 describes as his make it rain technique? If your system is successful please share the results im interested in hearing about it.
 
ttystikk said:
Here's the queerest part; I'm still running the very same hydroponic nutrients I always was, even the same ratios. I've adjusted my EC upwards to 2.3-2.5 and pH to 6.0 in veg.

They're leaping for joy, it's a night and day difference. Rich green, visibly bigger every few hours, new leaf sets daily, etc.

Some credit surely goes to the 3500K COB LED lighting, this is by far the healthiest batch of plants I've grown indoors in a long time.

FUCK RDWC. Too damned finicky and shit never looked this good for me. I needn't wait to dial in, Tupur is powerful stuff.
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What happened to that magical nutrient profile you boys were concocting?
 
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