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schuylaar

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from USA Today:
"Trump pushed to take over, saying he needed full control to get prime financing instead of high-interest, high-risk junk bonds.

“The rates are so high on the junk bonds that they make the company – (a company) that could have been a very good company – they make them junk,” Trump told the state commission at a Feb. 8, 1988, hearing. “So, it’s like a self-fulfilling prophecy almost.”

Trump’s testimony sold himself as a skilled manager who could achieve deals where others failed and get banks to offer better financing. “I mean, the banks call me all the time. It’s easier to finance if Donald Trump owns it.”

Then Trump financed the Taj with exactly what he promised he would not: $675 million in junk bonds at 14% interest, bankruptcy records show."

no matter how much you polish a turd, it's still a turd.
Okay.

-but-

How much of a turd would you say Hillary is?..Bill?
 

Rayne

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Just for the sake of information and politically speaking.... There are some conservative democrats and liberal republicans, just like there are some liberal democrats and conservative republicans.

Liberals believe in government action to achieve equal opportunity and equality for all. It is the duty of the government to alleviate social ills and to protect civil liberties and individual and human rights. Believe the role of the government should be to guarantee that no one is in need. Liberal policies generally emphasize the need for the government to solve problems.

Conservatives
believe in personal responsibility, limited government, free markets, individual liberty, traditional "United States" values and a strong national defense. Believe the role of government should be to provide people the freedom necessary to pursue their own goals. Conservative policies generally emphasize empowerment of the individual to solve problems

Neo-Conservative in United States politics is someone presented as a conservative but who actually favors big government, interventionalism, and a hostility to religion in politics and government. The word means "newly conservative," and thus formerly liberal.

Neo-Liberal is similar to a neoconservative. Presented as a liberal but still holds some conservative ideologies / values.
 

Rayne

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One is promoting the idea of safety, and the other is a blatant race baiter. I know who I am voting for​
Feel free to let your emotions guide you regarding a decisions on which liar to vote for. All election campaigns can be viewed as annoying sales pitches and or annoying minister sermons.

Sales Wisdom: 1.You won't sell anything until you get rapport with the other person. Rapport is a state of emotional bonding, where they are aligned with you and vice versa. When you move, if you are in rapport, they will move too. 2. You don't sell products, benefits or solutions--you sell feelings. (From the “Trump University” Playbook found on page 100)

Master The Art Of Persuasion: The most persuasive words in the English language according to a study by the Psychology Department of Yale University are: You, New, Money, Easy, Discovery, Free, Results, Health, Save, Proven, Guarantee, and Love. They share three characteristics: they are simple, familiar and dramatic. (From the “Trump University” Playbook found on page 99)

"The final key to the way I promote is bravado. I play to people’s fantasies. " Donald J. Trump from The Art of the Deal. Put in other words, the quote states... As I am lying, I am using their fantasies against them, and hoping the stupid voters believe me.

Before you claim mr trump is not politician... all long term business persons are like career politicians. They both have to "Negotiate" with other people to get what they want done. To accurately judge if a business person is competent to hold a political position as baby politician look over his or her public business record. If you are just going by what is said on the campaign trail, you have not done your research.
 
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UncleBuck

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let me know when hillary starts averaging 30 points unfavorable, like your racist, cheetoh-faced shitgibbon is doing.

it is so easy to make white supremacists cry. you guys are just not that bright.
 

OneStonedPony

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In the past week:
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Donald Trump has jumped ahead of Hillary Clinton by 4 percentage points, the first time he has led her in a national poll since 38 days ago.

The poll of 1,000 likely voters from Rasmussen Reports found that 43 per cent would vote for Trump if the November election were held today, compared with 39 per cent for Clinton.

That represents a 9-point swing in just the last week: Seven days ago the same pollsters reported that Clinton was leading the presidential race by 5 points.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3667913/Trump-Republican-pulls-ahead-Hillary-Clinton-4-points-shock-poll-trailing-5-week-ago.html
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^^^^ I trust the Brits reporting, over the bought off media here in the USA.
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Rayne

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In the past week:
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Donald Trump has jumped ahead of Hillary Clinton by 4 percentage points, the first time he has led her in a national poll since 38 days ago.

The poll of 1,000 likely voters from Rasmussen Reports found that 43 per cent would vote for Trump if the November election were held today, compared with 39 per cent for Clinton.

That represents a 9-point swing in just the last week: Seven days ago the same pollsters reported that Clinton was leading the presidential race by 5 points.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3667913/Trump-Republican-pulls-ahead-Hillary-Clinton-4-points-shock-poll-trailing-5-week-ago.html
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^^^^ I trust the Brits reporting, over the bought off media here in the USA.
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Of course trump is going to be ahead of hillary in the surveys of one particular poll reporter... Rasmussen Reports polls are biased toward the typical Republican states.
 

UncleBuck

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Of course trump is going to be ahead of hillary in one particular poll reporter... Rasmussen Reports polls are biased toward the typical Republican states.
yep. they are one of the least reliable pollsters out there. or at least they were in 2012. nearly a 4 point republican lean.

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you'd have to be onestupidpony to put all your eggs in that basket.
 
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