EXCUSE ME?!..The OFFICIAL Bernie Sanders For President 2016 Thread

londonfog

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No lies at all. Bernie took over 7 million dollars in his run for Senate. How can you want money out of politics, but yet accept over 7 million for your race. Your unhealthy love for Bernie makes you blind. Money is Money. and you can't say he didn't accept monies.
 

schuylaar

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and what does the youtube video have to do with Sanders being a hypocrite. He takes money whilst complaining about money in politics ? You are really no good at this.
Please remember to add blueberries to my pancakes, not sure about everyone else.
Whoa! I just had some pancakes!..short stack of 3.. Aunt jemimmas and real maple syrup with real butter..

Perfect stoner dinner:mrgreen:
 

schuylaar

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Keep spouting off that lie as if it's fact all you want, I've corrected you three different times about that, yet here you are, just like a conservative, repeating the same talking point despite the truth

@schuylaar I just saw that study, here's more info about it; Odds Hillary Won Without Widespread Fraud: 1 in 77 Billion Says Berkeley, Stanford Studies

.pdf from Stanford & Tilburg
Hard to tell from media coverage, but Sanders crowds were massive beating Obamas establishment fueled campaign crowds.
 

ttystikk

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I think it's time to start a write in Bernie campaign.

It's clear that our judiciary system is part of the problem when voter irregularities are so shockingly widespread, yet uninvestigated and allowed to continue to taint our entire system.
 

schuylaar

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I think it's time to start a write in Bernie campaign.

It's clear that our judiciary system is part of the problem when voter irregularities are so shockingly widespread, yet uninvestigated and allowed to continue to taint our entire system.
Don't worry there a legal teams aplenty working on this.

Sanders isn't stupid.
 

Fogdog

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Anyone who thinks this democratic primary was fair doesn't understand politics and/or they're lying
I don't think the election was fairly run. I do think that the margin of victory was way more than what anybody can tip an election by. If it were within a half-percent then I'd buy the hypothesis. But a 12% voter margin tilting to Hillary isn't the result of skulduggery.
 

Padawanbater2

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/heres-who-voters-would-pick-if-they-got-a-do-over-on-the-primaries_us_576454d4e4b0fbbc8bea705c

if democrats could do it all over again, they'd pick clinton again.

but i guess polling is just an anti-bernie conspiracy.
There's more than one way to skin a cat
I don't think the election was fairly run. I do think that the margin of victory was way more than what anybody can tip an election by. If it were within a half-percent then I'd buy the hypothesis. But a 12% voter margin tilting to Hillary isn't the result of skulduggery.
Well, I guess we'll never know
 

Fogdog

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There's more than one way to skin a cat

Well, I guess we'll never know
I'm not trying to quell dissent, I think this conversation is healthy and I'm voicing an alternative view that I think is defensible. I don't see how this election was stolen. It was run unfairly in many areas this is true. From what I've seen in past elections certain counties can be stolen and voter turnout can be skewed to favor other counties. As in Floriday/2000 and Ohio/Illinois/NY every fucking election. At one time, I don't doubt that ballot boxes were stolen or stuffed wholesale. In today's elections, I don't see that.

You made a sweeping statement but didn't really defend it. I suppose this is like Ali's rope a dope where the same statement comes back without real facts to back it.

I do support a better system for voting, vote by mail. It solves so many problems.
 

ttystikk

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I don't think the election was fairly run. I do think that the margin of victory was way more than what anybody can tip an election by. If it were within a half-percent then I'd buy the hypothesis. But a 12% voter margin tilting to Hillary isn't the result of skulduggery.
There are lies, there are damned lies- and then, there are statistics. -Samuel Clenents

I don't think the 'victory' margin you spoke of is in any way beyond the reach of various and sundry methods of vote rigging, suppression and ballot box stuffing.
 

Fogdog

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There are lies, there are damned lies- and then, there are statistics. -Samuel Clenents

I don't think the 'victory' margin you spoke of is in any way beyond the reach of various and sundry methods of vote rigging, suppression and ballot box stuffing.
That's what you think. That's fine. Can you build a case for that? NY was a scandal, how many registered Democrats were affected? 3 million is a lot of votes to steal and switch to Hillary or suppress.

I don't argue with the position that if primaries were open, Bernie would have won. Also super delegates are a really bad idea and give the whole process a tainted aspect.
 

Padawanbater2

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I'm not trying to quell dissent, I think this conversation is healthy and I'm voicing an alternative view that I think is defensible. I don't see how this election was stolen. It was run unfairly in many areas this is true. From what I've seen in past elections certain counties can be stolen and voter turnout can be skewed to favor other counties. As in Floriday/2000 and Ohio/Illinois/NY every fucking election. At one time, I don't doubt that ballot boxes were stolen or stuffed wholesale. In today's elections, I don't see that.

You made a sweeping statement but didn't really defend it. I suppose this is like Ali's rope a dope where the same statement comes back without real facts to back it.

I do support a better system for voting, vote by mail. It solves so many problems.
That's pretty much what I'm saying, the primaries were run unfairly in favor of Clinton. It wasn't a fair election, what we saw wasn't democracy. If it were fair, Sanders would have won.
 
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