(CBRN) Chemical, Biological, Radiological & Nuclear

Finshaggy

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I have known people who used things in the Military. And there is no way that CBRN isn't full of people that aren't interested in Chemistry and Chemicals and their effects on the brain, and that is what the Church of Neuroscience is all about. I don't think very many people choose CBRN just because, I am pretty sure everyone chooses it on purpose. Otherwise you would get really bored with it.
 

Olive Drab Green

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I have known people who used things in the Military. And there is no way that CBRN isn't full of people that aren't interested in Chemistry and Chemicals and their effects on the brain, and that is what the Church of Neuroscience is all about. I don't think very many people choose CBRN just because, I am pretty sure everyone chooses it on purpose. Otherwise you would get really bored with it.
Listen. SRH and I are both vets. I can't speak for him, but I'm pretty sure he's seen what I have regarding knowing many soldiers who were dishonorably discharged for trying to play the game and thinking they could get away with it until they discharged. If you try to get high, especially on research chemicals like 2-CI, Benzofury, K2, etc. you will be dishonorably discharged and you will have a worse time finding a job or getting assistance than any ex-con.
 

Finshaggy

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The food's pretty good, actually. I know the CBRN school was at Fort Lost in the Woods--err--Leonard Wood in Missouri. I couldn't speak to how it is.
Lol. I know at Edgewood Arsenal they used to do human testing with LSD and BZ and all that, and they don't do human testing anymore, but that is basically the stuff CBRN is studying. Just all kinds of different stuff now including Radiological and Nuclear. It's all about different substances and stuff.
 

pabloesqobar

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I get you, but maybe it'll help him sort it out. So I'm trying not to discourage him.


The food's pretty good, actually. I know the CBRN school was at Fort Lost in the Woods--err--Leonard Wood in Missouri. I couldn't speak to how it is.
You understand that with his background, he will not be eligible to join, let alone get the clearance to be around nukes?

The food is good. Some branches better than others.
 

Olive Drab Green

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You understand that with his background, he will not be eligible to join, let alone get the clearance to be around nukes?

The food is good. Some branches better than others.
Probably, but if we're preparing for Syria, they might waive some things. They were letting people in with manslaughter charges during the surge. Kenny Eastridge, for instance.
 

Finshaggy

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Listen. SRH and I are both vets. I can't speak for him, but I'm pretty sure he's seen what I have regarding knowing many soldiers who were dishonorably discharged for trying to play the game and thinking they could get away with it until they discharged. If you try to get high, especially on research chemicals like 2-CI, Benzofury, K2, etc. you will be dishonorably discharged and you will have a worse time finding a job or getting assistance than any ex-con.
I already said, if it seems like not doing anything is best that is what I will do. But it's not like people don't use things in the Military, there are tons of people. And people probably get caught being stupid. Like cigarettes in jail, you can smoke cigarettes with no one knowing.
 

Finshaggy

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You understand that with his background, he will not be eligible to join, let alone get the clearance to be around nukes?

The food is good. Some branches better than others.
You can't bar someone from anything in this country because of their Religion.
 

pabloesqobar

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Probably, but if we're preparing for Syria, they might waive some things. They were letting people in with manslaughter charges during the surge. Kenny Eastridge, for instance.
Well to be fair, that's an anecdote of one. And it didn't work out so well. He's still in prison. Are you suggesting this was a common practice during the surge?
 

Finshaggy

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Probably, but if we're preparing for Syria, they might waive some things. They were letting people in with manslaughter charges during the surge. Kenny Eastridge, for instance.
I know someone who had an illegal weapons charge that he had already lost, and an illegal weapons charge that he was in jail for, and he was still joining and his recruiter talked to him about getting the charge dropped.

I don't think a possession charge, for my Religion, that did not get a conviction, from when I was like 14-17, will effect my eligibility.
 

Singlemalt

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Maybe it was just a local ordinance. I guess it could be similar to digging up protected/endangered wildflowers, that are a limited resource. That pure white sand is beautiful, it's worth protecting heh.

In remote areas everywhere, you'll find that ppl will fill entire dump trucks with sand if they can get away with it.
There is a local beach (Moonstone) where the "sand" is really tiny pebbles of various types of igneous rocks (jade, etc). Gorgeous stuff. I use it as a top dressing for my bonsai plants. Last time I was there to get some a Park Service ranger threatened to ticket me. "if everyone took it there'd be none left".
 

Olive Drab Green

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Well to be fair, that's an anecdote of one. And it didn't work out so well. He's still in prison. Are you suggesting this was a common practice during the surge?
If they could have waived it then, they could have waived many more, by contemporary regs. I knew a few guys who got waived for drug charges or petty theft when I was getting in.
 

Olive Drab Green

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Yes you can. If your religion requires you to do drugs, you will be barred entrance to the military. If your religion requires you to kill homosexuals, you will be barred entrance to the military. Want me to go on?
This is what I've been trying to tell you, Fin. You would have to commit to following the rules and embodying the Army values.

Loyalty
Duty
Respect
Selfless Service
Honor
Integrity
Personal Courage.
 

Finshaggy

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Yes you can. If your religion requires you to do drugs, you will be barred entrance to the military. If your religion requires you to kill homosexuals, you will be barred entrance to the military. Want me to go on?
Marijuana has already come up. Colorado made the Military rethink Marijuana, and I am not saying you can use it or that they will let you you use it in the Military, but it doesn't effect your eligibility.
 

pabloesqobar

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I know someone who had an illegal weapons charge that he had already lost, and an illegal weapons charge that he was in jail for, and he was still joining and his recruiter talked to him about getting the charge dropped.

I don't think a possession charge, for my Religion, that did not get a conviction, from when I was like 14-17, will effect my eligibility.
You'd be wrong.
 

pabloesqobar

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Marijuana has already come up. Colorado made the Military rethink Marijuana, and I am not saying you can use it or that they will let you you use it in the Military, but it doesn't effect your eligibility.
Show me a link supporting your contention that prior drug use does not effect your eligibility. In particular, for anything dealing with CBRN.
 
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