The official Hillary Clinton will be our next president thread

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squarepush3r

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Fogdog said:
what a clown you are. First off, I get it, you don't like her. People like you want to have it both ways. If she were to dress more common, then some mean meme would come out about that. Then, compare her to Trump. how about a picture of Trump stepping from his private jet purchased from fraudulent activity. Is that somehow better? Sheesh, what a stupid posting you made.
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Which fraudulent activity would that be? These Hillary supporters have the hardest job in the world right now, to defend Hillary. Jill Stein is 10x better than Hillary, and she is a women also.
 
Fogdog

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squarepush3r said:
Which fraudulent activity would that be? These Hillary supporters have the hardest job in the world right now, to defend Hillary. Jill Stein is 10x better than Hillary, and she is a women also.
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re: thread on Trump regarding fraud. I don't like Hillary and won't defend her. Jill Stein isn't a plural.
 
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SpiderDude said:
The approval of American chemical weapons sales to Egypt as Mubarak’s associates were stocking Clinton family interests with cash is but one example of a dynamic that prevailed though Hillary Clinton’s tenure as secretary of state. During the roughly two years of Arab Spring protests that confronted authoritarian governments with popular uprisings, Clinton’s State Department approved $66 million worth of so-called Category 14 exports -- defined as "toxicological agents, including chemical agents, biological agents and associated equipment" -- to nine Middle Eastern governments that either donated to the Clinton Foundation or whose affiliated groups paid Bill Clinton speaking fees.

That represented a 50 percent overall increase in such export approvals to the same countries over the two years prior to the Arab Spring, according to an International Business Times review of State Department documents. In the same time period, Arab countries that did not donate to the Clinton Foundation saw an overall decrease in their State Department approvals to purchase chemical and biological materials. The increase in chemical, biological and related exports to Clinton Foundation donors was part of a larger jumpin overall arms sales authorized by Hillary Clinton’s State Department to foreign governments that gave her family’s foundation at least $54 million, according to a previous IBTimes analysis.

“The goal of conflicts-of-interest standards and government ethics standards is to set up a system where the public can be confident that officials are a making decisions on their merits, and not that there is a financial stake in the matter,” Clark told IBTimes.

In a similar instance, Saudi Arabia received a little less than $5 million in Category 14 authorizations in 2008 and 2009, but then in 2010 -- Clinton’s first full fiscal year in office -- the State Department approved $18 million of such authorizations. Saudi Arabia is one of the Clinton Foundation’s largest donors, having given at least $10 million in the years before Hillary Clinton became secretary of state.

Because Clinton’s State Department stopped detailing its arms approvals, congressional lawmakers and the public cannot discern if the U.S. gave the Saudis and other autocratic regimes offensive weapons like tear gas (or more deadly substances) or defensive equipment to protect soldiers from chemical exposure.

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ttystikk

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The approval of American chemical weapons sales to Egypt as Mubarak’s associates were stocking Clinton family interests with cash is but one example of a dynamic that prevailed though Hillary Clinton’s tenure as secretary of state. During the roughly two years of Arab Spring protests that confronted authoritarian governments with popular uprisings, Clinton’s State Department approved $66 million worth of so-called Category 14 exports -- defined as "toxicological agents, including chemical agents, biological agents and associated equipment" -- to nine Middle Eastern governments that either donated to the Clinton Foundation or whose affiliated groups paid Bill Clinton speaking fees.

That represented a 50 percent overall increase in such export approvals to the same countries over the two years prior to the Arab Spring, according to an International Business Times review of State Department documents. In the same time period, Arab countries that did not donate to the Clinton Foundation saw an overall decrease in their State Department approvals to purchase chemical and biological materials. The increase in chemical, biological and related exports to Clinton Foundation donors was part of a larger jumpin overall arms sales authorized by Hillary Clinton’s State Department to foreign governments that gave her family’s foundation at least $54 million, according to a previous IBTimes analysis.

“The goal of conflicts-of-interest standards and government ethics standards is to set up a system where the public can be confident that officials are a making decisions on their merits, and not that there is a financial stake in the matter,” Clark told IBTimes.

In a similar instance, Saudi Arabia received a little less than $5 million in Category 14 authorizations in 2008 and 2009, but then in 2010 -- Clinton’s first full fiscal year in office -- the State Department approved $18 million of such authorizations. Saudi Arabia is one of the Clinton Foundation’s largest donors, having given at least $10 million in the years before Hillary Clinton became secretary of state.

Because Clinton’s State Department stopped detailing its arms approvals, congressional lawmakers and the public cannot discern if the U.S. gave the Saudis and other autocratic regimes offensive weapons like tear gas (or more deadly substances) or defensive equipment to protect soldiers from chemical exposure.

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:clap: excellent, highly informative post.

THIS is the current state of American diplomacy; it's the private fiefdom of influential people running 'foundations'.

Imagine how things get even more skewed when the defense industry gets more directly involved.
 
Fogdog

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ttystikk said:
That sounds like a call to action... Unless we as a nation are willing to allow crooks to keep running our country.
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Are you going to run for office?

You seem to want the world to be less complex. While I think a lot of the things you say would be nice if they could just happen, I don't see how the world can just reshape itself with a single thought. I've asked you before how these things will occur and you seem to think it's a ridiculous question. I simply don't see your ideology ever making it into the real world in a recognizable form.

You reject the idea of gradual change, which is the only way is see how improvements will be made. OK, I don't like it either but things do take time. Deny that if you will but you can't point to anything that just happened because it was somebody's good idea. You can't because it never happens like that.

May I reply back that ideology enacted as an ideology without thought given to consequence becomes an evil. Like Communism. Because it's a complex world and everybody are not the same as you and I.

Edit: you say Hillary is a crook. Can you tell me what she's been charged with that actually went to trial?
 
CannaBruh

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You'd have to ask Ken Starr and the various others why people mysteriously keep dying around the Clintons.
 
Fogdog

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CannaBruh said:
You'd have to ask Ken Starr and the various others why people mysteriously keep dying around the Clintons.
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more made up shit. Ken Starr did his best and in the end could not find anything illegal. For twenty five years, the right wing has been howling for her blood. Never even got close. I suppose you are one of the people who think the absence of evidence is proof of guilt. My god that's stupid.

Is the "absence of evidence" really so hard for you to understand?
 
ttystikk

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Are you going to run for office?

You seem to want the world to be less complex. While I think a lot of the things you say would be nice if they could just happen, I don't see how the world can just reshape itself with a single thought. I've asked you before how these things will occur and you seem to think it's a ridiculous question. I simply don't see your ideology ever making it into the real world in a recognizable form.

You reject the idea of gradual change, which is the only way is see how improvements will be made. OK, I don't like it either but things do take time. Deny that if you will but you can't point to anything that just happened because it was somebody's good idea. You can't because it never happens like that.

May I reply back that ideology enacted as an ideology without thought given to consequence becomes an evil. Like Communism. Because it's a complex world and everybody are not the same as you and I.

Edit: you say Hillary is a crook. Can you tell me what she's been charged with that actually went to trial?
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The Clinton foundation seems to be an amazing conduit for influence peddling.

Yes, I'm an idealist, but mine is in the service of making more lives better, so consequences matter to me.

Yes I'm idealistic during elections because that's when it matters. We're choosing a candidate based on their ideology and political direction, aren't we?

I'd like to see change come about without gradualism, but you're the one trying to tell us that gradualism works in American politics. YOU defend that position, because I disagree that it's working anymore.

Are you going to run for office? I'm already doing my bit to change the world, how about you step up to the plate?

The world is a highly complex place but I don't find the basic reasons why things are as they are politically to be all that hard to grasp.
 
SpiderDude

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& never ever forget the human rights violations by many arab countries ( regarding discrimination / women / gays / christian killings etc .... ) donating to Clinton Foundation.




...... " You asked me about the Clinton Foundation. Do I have a problem when a sitting secretary of state and a foundation run by her husband collects many millions of dollars from foreign governments, governments which are dictatorships? You don’t have a lot of civil liberties, democratic rights in Saudi Arabia. You don’t have a lot of respect there for divergent, opposition points of view, for gay rights, for women’s rights. Yeah — do I have a problem with that? Yeah, I do. " ...... Bernie Sanders

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CannaBruh

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I'm definitely not the jackass who sees the same guy at the fire with the matches and continues thinking nothing of it...
 
SpiderDude

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it's funny how the trolls in the trump thread cry and moan about trump being a racist but run a light speed from the facts how racist the muslim middle east is that fills the clintons pockets with millions....

gays, women, christians killed yet they cry about trump university over and over and over. what is worse ????

hypocrisy in all it's glory ~ speaking of hypocrisy, hours before " the golfer " backs " crooked hillary "

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