mane2008
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lmao yea i can see
To All You MG Haters.
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mane2008
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thanks for the lesson but.... you must have not been growing for long if you say it's not da way to go. It's not great but is all most stores got.
Wat does Walmart sell MG what does Lowe's sell MG.
pple cant get foxfarms n shit.. so they add perlite n vermiculite n maybe even a lil peat moss to MG to make it better.
if u cant grow wit slow release n have ite results that means u aint even ready for growin in my eyes.
U probably hate MG cause u a nwb n overwater so u overfert.
mockingbird131313
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lmao = laughing my ass off
rotflmao = rolling on the floor, laughing my ass off
Connoisseur177
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theres too many wrong assumptions (and we know what assuming does dont we?.. if not, im not going to 'teach' any more lessons so youll have to ask someone else) in your comment.. your saying i havent been growing for long if i say its not the way to go?... you obviously are mistaken. i have never heard anyone thats been growing for more than 4 years reccomend miracle gro..even walmart and other 'big companies' have worm casting dont they?. and ur going hydroponic so whats your shit talking get you?.. vermiculite perlite and peat moss (with some lime) could make the dirt in my backyard turn into primo soil, so thats no excuse for using miracle gro..ive never heard of anyone getting ahold of vermiculite, perlite or peat moss and still buy miracle gro.... if you cant afford a better soil then you should stay a consumer and let the experienced keep doing what theyre doing.. if your talking smack online it just shows your an amateur so plz stop...
mane2008
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damn
but anyway I'm not talking shit just see y come in a thread where you aren't welcome?
i can afford better soil bra so chill out on that not. been in it since i was a youngin.
Can we say paragraphs please tho real pain when you have no kind of breaks in it.
Yea i do dro but i still use soil n will continue to use it. idk how long you've been growing nor do i care you if got exp w.e.
i been in it 7years actually so i got a lil exp not as much as some but i got enough to make a ite living off it alone.
So if you don't do MG keep it to yaself.
Connoisseur177
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ok.. im confused.. dont call me a bra. i may 'comfort' women but its not a reason to call me a bra..your defending people who use mircale gro and you dont use it yourself..hmm interesting.... you are the one who said im a newb. and yet you are defending those who use a chemically,time released soil.. this forum is to help those who arent much informed. im just saying my view. which is, you could find ANY organic soil which will perform better than miracle gro. and i really hope you dont live on the west coast, mane 2008.
OregonMeds
Well-Known Member
Lets all roll up our sleeves and just beat the hell out of eachother. I'm having a shitty day too...
MrFishy
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I should've mentioned that I had to flush that wet stuff I bought, which did wash out enough time-release that I needed to top-dress the whole batch.
After the initial flush, with no action, the leaves started showing all kinds of not good signs, like burn, yellowing, etc.
Is this what you're asking?
symptoms
I caught this the other day. You in the U.K.?
I thought those were MG Bloom mix #'s. Went and got my brand new, U.S. box of exact same food . . . except it reads 24-8-16. Went thru same w/m8 the other day. I've no clue why the European version is different?
I'm pretty sure that 24-8-16 is a fairly genetic mix for all-purpose, water soluble ferts . . . in the States, anyway?
Think I'm going to take a break from coming on these forums, except to sneak in from time to time to look up specifics I've seen and will remember.
Too many flame throwers in here, making much ado about nothing. If you want to grow, then do it, and do it your own way. If someone wants to come in here and bitch, they really need to go back to IRC and get it out of their system, and be civil towards one another when in a place that (I thought,) is for learning.
I figure if someone can fire up a computer and get in here, they might be able to make up their own minds about what info they want to assimilate. Know that each of us has an idea every so often. Doesn't mean we want someone to jump on us when we state what that idea or thought is. Just a thought, and good-goddamned bye.
Too many flame throwers in here, making much ado about nothing. If you want to grow, then do it, and do it your own way. If someone wants to come in here and bitch, they really need to go back to IRC and get it out of their system, and be civil towards one another when in a place that (I thought,) is for learning.
I figure if someone can fire up a computer and get in here, they might be able to make up their own minds about what info they want to assimilate. Know that each of us has an idea every so often. Doesn't mean we want someone to jump on us when we state what that idea or thought is. Just a thought, and good-goddamned bye.
mane2008
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naw Ga problem? u need to chill out.. u stated how u feel. You see my avatar that's y you talkin shit huh? u know i aint drivin to no cali or w.e. to steal u so spark ya blunt n go sit on the couch bra.
but dont try n make them lil sneaky type threats. You gon make a threat make it right.
who said i dont use MG if u read the post right you would know. I like da neg rep too shows u childish. You truly dont want none know that.
done with you tho..
be easy bra.
Connoisseur177
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um could someone get this person in line.. and tell him to stop posting towards me...if youve been growing for 7 years and still use miracle gro, you need to step your game up.. i see your avatar, and i dont care about it... i didnt threaten you, you must be 'mad' paranoid... and stop calling me a BRA!!!!...you probably never been to california or any medicinal state, so your '7 years' means nothing.. for those who care: please dont use mircale gro, if you think you are worth the money, invest the right amount of time and money for your medication.. if its not medication for you, then i guess its ok for you to use mircale gro because you shouldnt even be growing in the first place, but have fun properly flushing/leeching your soil.. as i said before, we all must learn at our own pace, it is good that you are trying to grow, but it may be better to become a consumer,or try organics... for quality sake..
Zekedogg
100% Authentic A$$Hole
Although I use Fox Farms Ocean organic.....I guarantee you I can grow a damn good plant using MG
mane2008
Well-Known Member
exactly u get what u can. shit gon grow regardless. better soil may give better results.Soil is soil, who gives a shit what kind of soil people use
misshestermoffitt
New Member
You really hate Miracle Grow don't you? Did you used to work for them and get fired or something?
There's this old saying that goes "To each his own"
If people like Miracle Grow and want to use it then they should use it. I don't think me using Miracle Grow on my plants is going to injure you in any way. Please try to relax.
KickToTheHead
New Member
I agree baby. Different strokes and stop all the hatin. What matters is what ends up in the pipe or rollin papers, RIGHT?You really hate Miracle Grow don't you? Did you used to work for them and get fired or something?
There's this old saying that goes "To each his own"
If people like Miracle Grow and want to use it then they should use it. I don't think me using Miracle Grow on my plants is going to injure you in any way. Please try to relax.
bonz
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FOR MIRACLE GROW NUTES :
If you really MUST use Miracle Grow Nutes or Soil cuz there isn't anything else available (cost can't be a reason, MG is about the same price as some organics !)
THEN USE THIS GUIDE PLEASE!!!
(enough for 2-3 plants .. just use more jugs for more plants!)
Get regular miracle grow (Not tomato or Rose food or azalea formula!)
AND Blossom Booster (or Schultz Professional Bloom food)
get 2- 1 gallon jugs of spring water from the store (about $1 each)
and an empty jug. Mark them (A) (B) & (C) --- (B) is the empty jug!
in the 1st jug (A) mix the MG at 1/4 the recomended rate for indoor plants.
In the 2nd jug (C), mix at 1/2 stregnth for indoor plants.
pour 1/2 of both into the empty jug (B)
Now-- when your plants get their 3rd set of leaves, feed once every 10 days. Start with (A) for the 1st 2 feed... then (B).. and end-up with (C) the week before you go 12/12.
FLUSH YOUR PLANTS WITH 5 GALLONS OF CLEAR WATER BEFOR GOING 12/12!
MG builds up-- and will lock-up as you add the stronger bloom nutes!
as the final part of the flush-- pour in a couple pints of your new bloom nutes (see below)
Do the same with your bloom nutes, Mix ahead in larger amounts... BUT--mix Jug (A) at 1/2 rate, Jug (C) at full stregnth-- and (B) the 2 mixed.
Start with (A) the 1st day of 12/12, then again in 10 days,
then switch to (B). Do not switch to (C) until the week before you flush for harvest!
when the trichomes just start turning cloudy, give em their last dose. In 10 days, check the trichs again.. if not all cloudy, you can feed again-- But go back to (B)
MAKE SURE TO FLUSH WELL AND WAIT THE FULL 2 WEEKS TO HARVEST!
You need to flush all the Nitrogen and magnesium out of the plants-- so Flush them well, put back in the bloom room the full 2 weeks till harvest, water as needed .. but absolutely no nutes or foliar sprays!
IF you foliar fed during the grow-- be sure to use a sprayer of water to gently shower it off the plants! (also gets rid of dead bugs & dust stuck to the buds!)
USING MG SOIL IS NEVER RECOMENDED!!
it has TIME RELEASED nutes-- so flushing is impossible... and you do not know how much nutes are being released or used by the plants.
If yYou Used MG soil, do NOT nute at all during veg... and use only additional P-K and suppliments without "N" during bloom...
And pre-harvest flushing can NOT be done on the normal 2 week schedule because of the time released nutes-- you must emergency flush when the trichs are how ya want em...
Cut the plant off at soil level. Place plant in a bucket with enough PLAIN tapwater to cover the base, but not touch lower limbs or vegetation....
Add a bubbler to the bucket to help "fool" the plant into thinking it is still alive (this only works up to 4 days before they wilt!)
Tthe plant will now use the nutrients stored in it's system . Leave under the lights at least 2 days-- up to 4 (3 is the usual amount)
IF you are one who puts their plants in the dark the last 3 days, give em at least 24 hours under lights before ya do... the photosynthesis will help the plant flush out unused nitrogen.
When using MG Fertilizer (as well as Schultz or Peter's ) Watch for:
Clawing
brown dry spots
crinckling leaves
pale new growth
Yellowing
if these happen, flush the plant, and wait 2-3 days before feeding again.
If Using MG soil and this happens, your best route is to re-plant in a bigger planter with different soil... DO NOT try to remove the existing soil from the roots of the plant!!!!
Good luck--
MG may not be the best-- but it CAN work!
HOPE THIS HELPS CLEAR UP THE "HOW DO I USE THIS" QUESTIONS!!!
Source: Lady Zandra
If you really MUST use Miracle Grow Nutes or Soil cuz there isn't anything else available (cost can't be a reason, MG is about the same price as some organics !)
THEN USE THIS GUIDE PLEASE!!!
(enough for 2-3 plants .. just use more jugs for more plants!)
Get regular miracle grow (Not tomato or Rose food or azalea formula!)
AND Blossom Booster (or Schultz Professional Bloom food)
get 2- 1 gallon jugs of spring water from the store (about $1 each)
and an empty jug. Mark them (A) (B) & (C) --- (B) is the empty jug!
in the 1st jug (A) mix the MG at 1/4 the recomended rate for indoor plants.
In the 2nd jug (C), mix at 1/2 stregnth for indoor plants.
pour 1/2 of both into the empty jug (B)
Now-- when your plants get their 3rd set of leaves, feed once every 10 days. Start with (A) for the 1st 2 feed... then (B).. and end-up with (C) the week before you go 12/12.
FLUSH YOUR PLANTS WITH 5 GALLONS OF CLEAR WATER BEFOR GOING 12/12!
MG builds up-- and will lock-up as you add the stronger bloom nutes!
as the final part of the flush-- pour in a couple pints of your new bloom nutes (see below)
Do the same with your bloom nutes, Mix ahead in larger amounts... BUT--mix Jug (A) at 1/2 rate, Jug (C) at full stregnth-- and (B) the 2 mixed.
Start with (A) the 1st day of 12/12, then again in 10 days,
then switch to (B). Do not switch to (C) until the week before you flush for harvest!
when the trichomes just start turning cloudy, give em their last dose. In 10 days, check the trichs again.. if not all cloudy, you can feed again-- But go back to (B)
MAKE SURE TO FLUSH WELL AND WAIT THE FULL 2 WEEKS TO HARVEST!
You need to flush all the Nitrogen and magnesium out of the plants-- so Flush them well, put back in the bloom room the full 2 weeks till harvest, water as needed .. but absolutely no nutes or foliar sprays!
IF you foliar fed during the grow-- be sure to use a sprayer of water to gently shower it off the plants! (also gets rid of dead bugs & dust stuck to the buds!)
USING MG SOIL IS NEVER RECOMENDED!!
it has TIME RELEASED nutes-- so flushing is impossible... and you do not know how much nutes are being released or used by the plants.
If yYou Used MG soil, do NOT nute at all during veg... and use only additional P-K and suppliments without "N" during bloom...
And pre-harvest flushing can NOT be done on the normal 2 week schedule because of the time released nutes-- you must emergency flush when the trichs are how ya want em...
Cut the plant off at soil level. Place plant in a bucket with enough PLAIN tapwater to cover the base, but not touch lower limbs or vegetation....
Add a bubbler to the bucket to help "fool" the plant into thinking it is still alive (this only works up to 4 days before they wilt!)
Tthe plant will now use the nutrients stored in it's system . Leave under the lights at least 2 days-- up to 4 (3 is the usual amount)
IF you are one who puts their plants in the dark the last 3 days, give em at least 24 hours under lights before ya do... the photosynthesis will help the plant flush out unused nitrogen.
When using MG Fertilizer (as well as Schultz or Peter's ) Watch for:
Clawing
brown dry spots
crinckling leaves
pale new growth
Yellowing
if these happen, flush the plant, and wait 2-3 days before feeding again.
If Using MG soil and this happens, your best route is to re-plant in a bigger planter with different soil... DO NOT try to remove the existing soil from the roots of the plant!!!!
Good luck--
MG may not be the best-- but it CAN work!
HOPE THIS HELPS CLEAR UP THE "HOW DO I USE THIS" QUESTIONS!!!
Source: Lady Zandra
misshestermoffitt
New Member
Wow, talk about overcomplicating things.
