First Legal grow and got a huge basement.

ODanksta

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At one point I wanted to do three as well, but it's all about the balance; two and two keeps the power even day n night, so you're using the same AC, etc.

Also, a two week perpetual means evenly timed crops, better consistency, less mad dash to trim.

You can still seal and pump gas, you just run each room with crops two weeks apart. High ppms of co2 early in the cycle tapering down to the end, nothing changes.

Day and night cycles never change, plants really like that kind of consistency. Pulling and planting a crop every other week is easy to feed from veg, IME- three week gaps get unwieldy.

Y'all do what's best for you, let me know any way I can help!
That's exactly what I was thinking!!!

Four rooms at 3 week intervals allows a week or two for a nice veg under the trellis
 

ODanksta

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I'm not here to say different, just show n tell.
I dunno if you know, but I believe that once you get an established veg, I think no-till organic in 30+ gallon pots is the most efficient method considering plant count to hardy colas. Or even raised indoor beds.

Have ever heard of a guy named @doubleds? Hey was basically doing verticals like 15 years ago..
 
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legallyflying

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Doubleds yield claims are complete horseshit.

And I don't know if you know, but buying all that no till organic soil and hauling it in and out of your grow room and missing out on the explosive growth and better yield of hydro is NOT, BY ANY MEANS, the most efficient way to grow.

You know how we get rid of 64 cubic feet of "medium" at the end of a cycle? I plug a sump pump in. Sure beats disposing of 32 bags of soil and then spending another $600 on dirt.

Just saying. As tystick says, I have no vested interest in how you grow, just trying to show you that there are better, easier ways of doing things.
 

patrickkawi37

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You ever fuck with loosefill? Grodan crutons. Grows as well as coco but it doesn't weigh shit, reasonably priced. Holds a decent amount of water but not too much.. I'm trying to switch everything to that.. to make transplant , trash runs ,better efficiency for me
 

ODanksta

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You ever fuck with loosefill? Grodan crutons. Grows as well as coco but it doesn't weigh shit, reasonably priced. Holds a decent amount of water but not too much.. I'm trying to switch everything to that.. to make transplant , trash runs ,better efficiency for me
Yeah that stuff looks awesome, I definitely want to try it.. This guy kills it, using that stuff.

 

ODanksta

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Doubleds yield claims are complete horseshit.

And I don't know if you know, but buying all that no till organic soil and hauling it in and out of your grow room and missing out on the explosive growth and better yield of hydro is NOT, BY ANY MEANS, the most efficient way to grow.

You know how we get rid of 64 cubic feet of "medium" at the end of a cycle? I plug a sump pump in. Sure beats disposing of 32 bags of soil and then spending another $600 on dirt.

Just saying. As tystick says, I have no vested interest in how you grow, just trying to show you that there are better, easier ways of doing things.
Sure I understand but the purpose of no-till is to re-use the soil. I've ran it up 5 times and I got better every time. And yeah soil is expensive but I save money by not having to use a ton of nutes and replacing pumps and never ever have to pH. And It's organic.

These are my past no-tills with a 6 week veg.. CAM02180.jpg IMG_20150121_232040.jpg CAM02377.jpg CAM02375.jpg CAM00977.jpg

Each of those yielded well over a pound.



But you @legalyflying are definitely one of the best growers I've ever seen. And I went to check out Ttystikk's operation today and it was pretty damn impressive..

But we are not doing no-tills here. First run will just be hand fed with coco..

But we will probably be switching things up to see what works best for us..
 

patrickkawi37

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Yeah that stuff looks awesome, I definitely want to try it.. This guy kills it, using that stuff.

That's funny as hell When I first started growing and was pulling less then a pound per light... I watched this video like 384738 times.
You can make anything happen if you work your ass off and believe in yourself.
i didn't even know that was loosefill he's using. I know it's some stuff he says he reuses every run! Loosefill is dope because it's so light , transplanting and trash days don't hurt your back. And No more blisters mixing 60 bags
Of coco with perlite. And no Fungus gnats! If I can pull the same numbers I am sold on it
 

legallyflying

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Fair enough. For the record, lots o perlite is your friend. Like 50%

I don't know about that best grower stuff, we manage to screw shit up all the time. Soo much to deal with, all day, all the time.

My only suggestion..
Jesus fucking christ pull some leaves of that plant in late flower!!

And careful with panda over drywall, it causes mold. Ask me how I know...

I want to see these led tystick I'd building...
 

ODanksta

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Fair enough. For the record, lots o perlite is your friend. Like 50%

I don't know about that best grower stuff, we manage to screw shit up all the time. Soo much to deal with, all day, all the time.

My only suggestion..
Jesus fucking christ pull some leaves of that plant in late flower!!

And careful with panda over drywall, it causes mold. Ask me how I know...

I want to see these led tystick I'd building...
They are crazy dope. But I promised, I wouldn't talk about them.

He said "this is tomorrow land stuff" lol.. Definity the coldest lights I've seen..
 
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