please help she's sick after transplant

manny pinero

manny pinero

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I think my soil is all wrong but since it's my first I figure I would have to learn from trial and error.. any tight budget friendly soil suggestions would be appreciated also guys (heard fox grow is decent but $ is super tight currently)used old mg soil and perlite w nutes. this is why I wasn't surprised when after the transplant things went wrong. I was using old mg soil first.. then when I transplanted I mixed the perlite w nutes to help w drainage and the pot up..about 80/20 ratio actually or maybe even less perlite.
 
thumper60

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if u want to easy way get u some promix. I run 50-50 coco promix have for a long time,very forgiving plant love it.i hand water with very little run off.
 
manny pinero

manny pinero

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what's the smallest amount of both you can find at a shop?? price range ? is there a substantial risk in transplanting to new medium or should I jus hold out for the pro-coco mix until I get my seeds? thanks
 
hotrodharley

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manny pinero said:
I think my soil is all wrong but since it's my first I figure I would have to learn from trial and error.. any tight budget friendly soil suggestions would be appreciated also guys (heard fox grow is decent but $ is super tight currently)used old mg soil and perlite w nutes. this is why I wasn't surprised when after the transplant things went wrong. I was using old mg soil first.. then when I transplanted I mixed the perlite w nutes to help w drainage and the pot up..about 80/20 ratio actually or maybe even less perlite.
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Bale of peat moss is cheap and lasts a long time. Get a bag of organic compost - about $3 for 40#. Sift the big pieces of wood out. Mix 5 cups compost to 2 cups of peat. Do NOT add any fucking perlite as peat is a sponge anyway. If you add an aerator buy a big bag of HORTICULTURAL grade vermiculite. Add 1 cup of that to the above 5/2 mix.

Do not overwater. Do not pH the water as peat starts out at 4-5-5.0 pH.
 
manny pinero

manny pinero

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hotrodharley said:
Bale of peat moss is cheap and lasts a long time. Get a bag of organic compost - about $3 for 40#. Sift the big pieces of wood out. Mix 5 cups compost to 2 cups of peat. Do NOT add any fucking perlite as peat is a sponge anyway. If you add an aerator buy a big bag of HORTICULTURAL grade vermiculite. Add 1 cup of that to the above 5/2 mix.

Do not overwater. Do not pH the water as peat starts out at 4-5-5.0 pH.
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what's the price range on all that? can I get over the counter at lowes and home depot? should I risk re transplanting her to the new medium or should I keep her in the shitty mg/perlite mix and try to adjust. I have 15 seeds otw pine express ak47 ww xtm etc. I won't even think of letting those seeds touch perlite or mg but I would love to save her as well (my first)
 
hotrodharley

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manny pinero said:
what's the price range on all that? can I get over the counter at lowes and home depot? should I risk re transplanting her to the new medium or should I keep her in the shitty mg/perlite mix and try to adjust. I have 15 seeds otw pine express ak47 ww xtm etc. I won't even think of letting those seeds touch perlite or mg but I would love to save her as well (my first)
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At Home Depot I just bought a bag for a crippled up friend and took it to him. It looked great opening it and his plants look great in it.

Called Garden Time. Natural and organic. Less than $16 for a bag of 64 quarts!
 
manny pinero

manny pinero

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hotrodharley said:
At Home Depot I just bought a bag for a crippled up friend and took it to him. It looked great opening it and his plants look great in it.

Called Garden Time. Natural and organic. Less than $16 for a bag of 64 quarts!
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wow 16$ for that much soil is great and something I can actually afford. but should I move her to the new medium or keep her there? and garden time is all il need?
 
manny pinero

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what I mean is... what can I do to bring her back to life?? keep her in the mg and balance out the ph? transplant to organic? add something to the mg to help? flush the soil? thanks again hotrod. a huge help in this. as well as thumper,corso,honda and topdog..opinions, thoughts and constructive criticism always appreciated.
 
manny pinero

manny pinero

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hotrodharley said:
Bale of peat moss is cheap and lasts a long time. Get a bag of organic compost - about $3 for 40#. Sift the big pieces of wood out. Mix 5 cups compost to 2 cups of peat. Do NOT add any fucking perlite as peat is a sponge anyway. If you add an aerator buy a big bag of HORTICULTURAL grade vermiculite. Add 1 cup of that to the above 5/2 mix.

Do not overwater. Do not pH the water as peat starts out at 4-5-5.0 pH.
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do you mean to add that to the current medium (if you even wanna call this bs that) or to set it up a new medium and transplant? whatever methods in you can add to save her I would def appreciate
 
hondagrower420

hondagrower420

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manny pinero said:
still alive day 2 no water.. slight signs of improvement
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Yeah that soil is still stupid wet. You're going to have to wait 2 weeks or so before you give it water again.

You are most likely experience some clorosis from lack of o2 to the roots.

Do you have a fan blowing around the plant.

That soil might doom you.
 
hondagrower420

hondagrower420

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And you shouldn't be spraying the plant that often. That little baby doesn't need all that h2o.

Don't over think it. Love kills plants quick.
 
manny pinero

manny pinero

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that's what I did guys... I couldn't jus watch her die. I kept trying to airate the soil myself carefully chopping the soil up while the fan was blowing on it but it barely helped. so I transplanted once again to new soil w a 10-5-5 npk added about a liter of water and now I'm just waiting. I have however stepped up my game. Purchased coco blocks, vermiculite, pro mix hp 65lb bag, technoflora kit and fox farm nutes, smartpots ,(4gallon) humidity meter, ph and ppm tester, bat guano, ph up+down and sugar daddy.. I sold my bike to play catch up with the stuff I needed.
 
manny pinero

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hotrodharley said:
Myself I would totally transplant to a medium that "dries"quicker.
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absolutely..after 2 days w soggy soil I transplanted. I'm gonna wait for her to recover which will prob take another day or two. unbelievably when I scooped the plant out it was still wet. I probably saved her by doing so and that motivated me to stop half assing shit..IL have the proper tools in a week and I can finally grow wo restrictions.. Il prob do a promix coco vermiculite medium or experiment w pro coco and pro w vermiculite w different strains and see what they like better. Il also have auto flow seeds and fems in less than a week.. any suggestions for nutes and ferts for auto? should I try the same setup as for the reg ladies or switch up the type of nutes and fertz? if u look at the list of stuff I got on my post, you'll see what combinations I can use,as far as mediums and nutrients as well as fertilizer. can't wait to start doing this the right way with the right tools and your guys help. thanks for the feedback
 
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