USPS marijuana
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Irish791 you seem to really know your stuff and I'm in full agreement with you from what I know. I would really appreciate it if you would start another thread in this forum on the subject of stealth shipping, as a tutorial. If it is really good and accurate I think it may rate being a sticky.
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IRISH791
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If you asked me this question a month ago , I probably would of said no BUT after what just happened in San Bernardino. ..well. who knows now.
First off you need to realize every situation is different. If you got some postal worker that's been doing this for 30 years , chances are he don't give a fuck if you're shipping god damn pure plutonium to some Arab across the country (no offense to any arab members)
Yes I'm exaggerating but you get my point.
There is no exact science to this .my honest and BEST advice is limit what you have sent or what you ship because once it leaves your hands, you are at the mercy of the people handling it.
It's that simple. One thing I will say , if you're not ready to do the time then don't do the crime. Anyone shipping something illegal knows damn well they are. These fuck heads at USPS ,UPS, FED EX , Freight companies are just doing their jobs.
One of the moderators asked if I could post a thread on this subject . I'll think about it and maybe go into depth of a little of my operation and give examples of what not to do , etc etc etc
Might be a few days .
I will admit ,I already like this place. I see some very informative advice and the members seem pretty cool. Even the guy that disagreed with me handled himself with class. Something you don't see much on the boards now a days. Much respect brother.
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justugh
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i mess around with the postmaster in my area i know about this to cover my own ass
1 shipping weed in USPS is a federal crime the shipper and the one getting it can be looking at a long time in federal jail .........even if u are shipping from one legal state to the next it is illegal to cross state lines (weed is sill illegal lvl 1 narc in federal law) .....U can not do it legally (usps fedex or ups ....does matter illegal 20 years in prison)
2nd thing is once u hand over the package to the USPS they have a right to send it to a inspector if they believe there is something in there (if they send it and there is something they get a Bonus so they do look and smell )
3rd thing is they have a list ......if anyone has ever been caught shipping the name goes on the list u are Flagged and your items will be reviewed ....u make the list u never get off the list
4th thing is they will tell u in the office USPS do not ship weed tho here the likely hood of getting caught is massive with what they are doing to the system (with all the states going rec legal and others not law suits have been filed other states against the rec state because the weed is trickling in ) so the federal response is they are installing new inspection gear at the main transfer points in those state (u know where your mail goes then gets packaged up to go to what ever state)
So using USPS for any thing other then small seeds is a massive gamble now ......2 years ago it was easy ass hell to do it now they are closing up the holes in the system the chance of getting caught is increasing with every week (seeds are not a big the amount they weight is so small they normally do not take that to court just take them away from u )
1 shipping weed in USPS is a federal crime the shipper and the one getting it can be looking at a long time in federal jail .........even if u are shipping from one legal state to the next it is illegal to cross state lines (weed is sill illegal lvl 1 narc in federal law) .....U can not do it legally (usps fedex or ups ....does matter illegal 20 years in prison)
2nd thing is once u hand over the package to the USPS they have a right to send it to a inspector if they believe there is something in there (if they send it and there is something they get a Bonus so they do look and smell )
3rd thing is they have a list ......if anyone has ever been caught shipping the name goes on the list u are Flagged and your items will be reviewed ....u make the list u never get off the list
4th thing is they will tell u in the office USPS do not ship weed tho here the likely hood of getting caught is massive with what they are doing to the system (with all the states going rec legal and others not law suits have been filed other states against the rec state because the weed is trickling in ) so the federal response is they are installing new inspection gear at the main transfer points in those state (u know where your mail goes then gets packaged up to go to what ever state)
So using USPS for any thing other then small seeds is a massive gamble now ......2 years ago it was easy ass hell to do it now they are closing up the holes in the system the chance of getting caught is increasing with every week (seeds are not a big the amount they weight is so small they normally do not take that to court just take them away from u )
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since1991
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Dude this isnt 1996 anymore. Shipping pot is still practiced? Thought that crazy shit died with Overgrow. Anyways....dude dont ship grass in the mail. Please? You might get away with it for a few times maybe but your going to get fukin busted.
Jeez Louise...i swear man. There has to be a hydro store in your state. Has to be. If not....order that equipment to a drop house. And get to growing some some good buds. Its a win win. You know exactly where it comes from. You know exactly what ur getting every harvest. Ordering buds through ups or postal? Your fukin crazy. Shouldnt have to these days. Thats 1990's shit. And asking for trouble
Jeez Louise...i swear man. There has to be a hydro store in your state. Has to be. If not....order that equipment to a drop house. And get to growing some some good buds. Its a win win. You know exactly where it comes from. You know exactly what ur getting every harvest. Ordering buds through ups or postal? Your fukin crazy. Shouldnt have to these days. Thats 1990's shit. And asking for trouble
since1991
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I know of 4 dudes personally back in the day that pulled that shit. One cat did it for a year and a half straight. They ALL ended up doing time. The Man might have chilled on marijuana enforcement but not shipping that shit ups or the postal mail service. Your fukin nuts. You have been warned.
IRISH791
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^^^^^
This
Once your address is flagged that's it , you can bet your ass every package sent to that burnt addy will be checked. Even for dumb shit.
And you're absolutely correct , it's at the discretion of the postal worker to "screen" packages they feel may or may not contain contraband. Could be something simple as too much tape on the package. I was told that first hand by someone very close to me who does in fact work for USPS .
They all have been "trained" to look for certain things.
Another thing I'll add , if you're shipping .... never , never , never use a fake return address. I know of a UGL that was doing that and they checked and there was no such address. They caught on. ...started watching. And boom. .... nailed his ass couple months later.
I'm sure most of you know by now , when you ship a package usps , they punch in the receiving address info.
Ex. John Doe
123 dipshit st
Nowhere, USA
12345
They first punch in the zip code , then the address. ... it all comes up on the screen.
Don't believe me. Try going to a kiosk , it's the same system they use.
Now , say you look suspicious by their "guidelines" all they have to do is take the package after you left and punch in the info.
It'll tell them if it's a legit address.
That's just a basic example. I can get in more detail later and what you can do to insulate yourself from that.
As someone already stated, it isn't worth having MJ sent thru the mail. Seedlings are very easily to obtain and IF they do get picked off , they'll throw them in the trash. Nothing else will happen
Every cat I know that's pushed elbows thru the mail , whether it be USPS , FED EX , UPS. they eventually got caught. Yeah , they may have gotten xyz amount thru but they ended up getting caught. ....
You take into consideration the amount they made versus a 10-20 pc sitting in a federal penitentiary. ... they could of got a job at McDonalds and saved themselves the aggravation. ..IMO
And just so everyone knows, yes I'm a convicted felon , so I do have first hand knowledge of this. Not something I read or heard
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justugh
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yep
if u are going to do this then u need to do it right
1 the person doing the drop off (all places usps fedex ups ) must look like a avg no smoking person .....it is a normal transaction
2 speed is your friend if u pay for the fast shipping it limits the time they have to go hmmmmmm
3 use a dead drop .....a house where u live that has no one in it (we all have a house/apartment)
4 think ahead ......right now would be the time to do it as the system is overwhelmed with packages (fed ex and ups use uhaul to drop stuff off so much work)
5 be ready for small talk about what u are doing have the story practiced and ready
here is a method i used in 2014 in denver
i when shops got my stuff concentrate lollipops vape pens ......all stuff that does not stink to high heaven .....they make u buy those silver bags they are worth it smell contained and since metal scanners do not pass (that i know of might be wrong) .......well about 1700 worth
so i take them and wrap it up in my carry on bag for the airplane ......i take the bag along with my buddies and theirs we go into a fed ex office outside Denver (key point) to one of those fedex near a ski resort (30 mins on highway) .......give them the bag with only the FAA lock on it (this is key too they pack it ) and i ship it home to myself 1 day shipping 160 bucks my buddies did the later ones but i had the most so i went the fastest ....but the whole time i am there talking to the agent and she is telling me how ppl do this all the time do not want to carry on the plane home
later that day i got on the plane got in about midnight my time passed out when i got up the box was outside my front door (i sent no sign but insurance value of clothes and electronics 600 )
no issue at all .....the whole thing looked normal (down to my last cartridges and 1/2 gram of hash)
since1991
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All the above is common sense pal. These 5 things you whipped up are not some big revelation or secrets to mailing drugs. To do it right one needs to not do it at all. Eventually it becomes "not right" no matter how well you thought it through. Keep rolling the dice....see what happens. Like i said ....i know people that were "doing it right". Guess what? Just dont drop the soap when you go down and Good luck.
justugh
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stoners and common sense .....do i need to say any more (plus i am betting some youngens will see this )
no they are just the simple basics that anyone is going to do this should at least think about ....given moving anything is 20 plus years .....if the state is a bitch about they can have u held after the federal time is done for your state case
do u want a smuggling tip .........coffee does hide the scent but is a reason for them to search now ......the safer choice for packing is jasmine flowers
or lacing clothing items do not work as well as u think since the ppl handling them are trained to notice a weight difference compared to material and amount
or the fact that grey hound routes are routinely checked at depos .....now at a increased rate and not do to the T word or anything like that but due to a federal law suit filed by other states vs the rec states
or the fact driving it out is a crap shoot too ......they are sitting 5 10 miles across the state lines profile ppl taken them over for some crap charge to search the car for that 1 gram ......then they lock your ass up reset and get someone else with in 5 10 mins (right now it is a boom for those states in fines and money from locking ppl up taken the car reselling it )
do u want to know how to transport it using the safest method possible
BarnBuster
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@IRISH791 mentioned several of the criteria and, FWIW, here is the rest of the USPS "Drug-Package Profile". This has been around since the 80's in one form or the other. There is a lot of latitude in the interpretation of the profile both when they apply for a warrant to search and when/if it goes to court.
1. Are of a particular size and/or shape.
2. Are heavily taped so that all openings are sealed.
3. Bear hand-written labels.
4. Bear unusual return names and addresses.
5. Emit unusual odors.
6. Bear fictitious return addressees.
7. Are sent to particular destinations
also this to consider when checking the USPS database to find out "Where is my package"?
"According to the website Ars, a federal drug investigation reveals how the United States Postal Service’s (USPS) law enforcement unit can use IP logs on the postal tracking website to investigate crimes
“The USPS database reflected that an individual using a computer or other device with IP address 75.67.6.214 accessed the USPS Track ‘n Confirm website to follow the progress of both the Florida Parcel and Bates Parcel #1,”Dowd wrote.
“What’s most bizarre about this, is the case was tipped off by an algorithm, a system that mines Track N’ Confirm user-data in order to detect suspicious activity, has triggered the investigation,” Ghappour told Ars in an interview."
1. Are of a particular size and/or shape.
2. Are heavily taped so that all openings are sealed.
3. Bear hand-written labels.
4. Bear unusual return names and addresses.
5. Emit unusual odors.
6. Bear fictitious return addressees.
7. Are sent to particular destinations
also this to consider when checking the USPS database to find out "Where is my package"?
"According to the website Ars, a federal drug investigation reveals how the United States Postal Service’s (USPS) law enforcement unit can use IP logs on the postal tracking website to investigate crimes
“The USPS database reflected that an individual using a computer or other device with IP address 75.67.6.214 accessed the USPS Track ‘n Confirm website to follow the progress of both the Florida Parcel and Bates Parcel #1,”Dowd wrote.
“What’s most bizarre about this, is the case was tipped off by an algorithm, a system that mines Track N’ Confirm user-data in order to detect suspicious activity, has triggered the investigation,” Ghappour told Ars in an interview."
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shayla brooke
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So something was shipped to me two weeks ago today USPS express. It has never showed up. The tracking info says the samething that it said the day it got scanned. "That It has left the acceptance facility and headed to a sorting facility. It has departed the post office" well it was never scanned in anywhere else and I did not receive it two days later. It now has been two weeks and nothing. Tracking info still the same. I've spoke to about three people from the post office and they said it is not there that it is probably lost or it could have missed a scan. What do you think? It it was in the hands of authorities would I have heard something by now or do you think someone took it and is enjoying.
shayla brooke
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Iam scared to death with worry. I mean surly if it was found by the authoritues I would hear something soon. It's been two weeks.Igotthe6 said:
shayla brooke
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Your right!!!!!!