Grow with me cxb3070 3000k

tick tack toe

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Okay so this will be my second grow with these LED's and I hope like hell it works better :) It failed completely so I'm looking for advice so if you have anything to share please go ahead.

I'm growing two fully mainlined plants (Blue Dream and Trainwreck from HSO) and an OG Kush. They were all put into flower today. I have the BD and TW in 8 litre smart pots in coco. They get feed 3 times a day. Currently feeding at an EC of 1.1, PH 5.8 using the GH and the h3ad formula. The OG in in a 2 litre coke bottle in a hempy style and fed the same (once every 2 days).

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These three plants are under my 4 x cxb3070. Currently they are 15 inches from the top and I am slowly moving it to 8 inches (what do you guys think)?

after this grow I am going to do one more for the season.
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I have a few clones and the tops from when I first cloned the main plants. They have rooted out and now just hoping the OG Kush also root (under bag). Not sure yet if I will grow my next using mainlining or go sog.

I keep the photos coming and
 

tick tack toe

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here we have the plants at 7 days of flower. I moved my lights down to 10 inches. Do you guys think this is a good distance?
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I have three types here all grown from seed. Back left is a 8 cola Blue Dream, right is the 8 cola Trainwreck and in the front is an OG Kush.
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You can really see the difference in the leaves. bottom is the OG kush and it has huge fat fan leaves. The Blue Dream on the left has the next largest but these leaves a thinner while the trainwrecks leaves are smaller but fatter. The trainwreck does have a fat stem though.
 

tick tack toe

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I'm using coco and have 8 liter pots. This allows them to dry out a little between feedings. my first water they get 660ml of food at 1.2EC, 4 hours later I feed again 500ml and then again in 4 hours for another 500ml. I try to aim feedings 2 hours after and before light on/off and then again in the middle. I find I get about 100ml of runnoff each time.

I would like to try growing with clones (which I took from these three plants). What method should I use to max out my yield for my space? I've never grown clones before.

I do like coco as a medium though. Once you get things dialed in it is fun to grow for techie nerds like me. It allows me to fuck around with the plant with things like drip systems and ... you can't over water once the roots have grown in. :)
 

tick tack toe

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Oh here is the blue dream top from my main plant ... I topped it again and then mainlined it for 4 heads. My first ever clone. I don't have any room to grow it and one of my friends would love to try so it is being given to him. This means he will grow clones before me ... and thing one has a great root system on it. Before I give it to him next week I am going to pot it up once more.

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tick tack toe

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Am I the only one who thinks 1.1 EC is too low and those plants look hungry?
I keep meaning to reply to this. I'm still new in learning how to feed correctly. Watering and correct feeding has been my issue so far in coco. MY first grow was in soil and I used to treat coco like soil which lead to a few issues. Then, if you see above, I changed to feeding a lot .... but forgot to grow out the roots in the last potting up.

Now I am trying to not over feed while using a dripper. My biggest issue has been my ph. A few weeks ago I go some tip burn and nitrogen toxicity which I thought was too high EC. I found out that somewhere in the last month my pen went crazy and was reading low. This meant that the ph I was putting in was around the 5.2 mark. I calibrated my pen but not often enough. Looks like it is about to die. I have switched to drops now and use my pen for getting close/quick check. I do my final tests with the drops.

My main leaves a nice and dark green. the hooking I saw in the blue dream is now gone. MY newer growth comes out light green and slowly turns the better green. My EC going in is 1.2 currently and my runoff ec is 1.3 -1.4 (slowly dropping) Do you think with very light new growth I could be under feeding because honesty I have no bloody clue. 8)
 

ttystikk

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I'm in RDWC and I feed as high as 2.0 EC. My conditions may be different from yours, however, I'd still try using 1.4 EC as your target.

On the subject of instruments, I keep running across people who skimp on getting good ones. Think of them as your glasses for seeing what's going on with your hydroponics system. You want 20/20 vision or 'I guess, it's dying?' Your growing will never be better than the data you're getting.

I strongly recommend a Bluelab combo meter and pH calibration kit. You can get them for around $200. Calibrate it monthly, period. You can replace the probe if it breaks or wears out. Always keep the pH meter tip in water. I trust mine with my whole grow, do you trust your grow to a cheap meter? Why?
 

tick tack toe

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been a while so I think I better update.

The reason I don't use a more expensive tester is that ...
1. It's expensive
2. I only want to grow once a year in my small 80 x 80 tent. This makes it too expensive. I do look that them and dream :)

While currently I have done a few grows I am still very much in the learning stage. I want to get to a point where I can do a grow, get a good yield and been happy for the rest of the year.

I'm not that great of a grower who has a large budget to spend on this. I'm still learning if you see large errors let me know. ...PLEASE :D

running at 1.3ec with 0.1 of that extra mag
The blue dream has a run off 0.9ec while my trainwreck is at 2.0 :( I have flushed it but nothing is changing.

the OG kush in the coke bottle is now 63cm.
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I might have cut too much under the main plants but still the rh is at 70% with a fan blowing down there. It comes in at 50%
Anyone know why it is not going down even with negative pressure?
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blue dream
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trainwreck

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few leaf issues. but overall looking ok.
 

Waiks

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Hey man nice grow you got goin! You got your training down good.
I run the same lights 4 cxb3070 3000k @1.4a over a 36" × 20" tent. How are the girls liking it at 10" above the canopy?
Mine are at 15ish. Seen some people say 6" is good, others say 10" minimum!
Good luck on the RH btw. I had to battle that myself recently! I had an easy fix though...disconnect the ac venting to the tent at night. Damprid is in there also...droppin in 2% lol
 

tick tack toe

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I'm not having any issues at 10" and I might try 6". trying to work this out while still new in this game isn't the easiest :D But so far there is no light blech. I had them at 15" last time and got a poor yield. That might have been cause I feed them wrong as well.
 

Waiks

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Shooooooots they're going to 10" right now lol. Are you running at 1.4a as well?

I know what you mean brotha. I'm on only my first grow and within a month I upgraded from a diy cfl cab to hps tent to diy led tent haha alot of things to learn... one thing that has been easy though is the organic soil and feeding.

If you do go 6" with yours, I'll drop mine lower too ;)
 

ttystikk

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Shooooooots they're going to 10" right now lol. Are you running at 1.4a as well?

I know what you mean brotha. I'm on only my first grow and within a month I upgraded from a diy cfl cab to hps tent to diy led tent haha alot of things to learn... one thing that has been easy though is the organic soil and feeding.

If you do go 6" with yours, I'll drop mine lower too ;)
More intense light makes for better growing, but you will want to watch your leaf surface temps carefully. Add a light breeze for cooling- and I've found that increasing RH with increased light intensity helps the plants cope, plus they can then take better advantage of available CO².
 

Waiks

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More intense light makes for better growing, but you will want to watch your leaf surface temps carefully. Add a light breeze for cooling- and I've found that increasing RH with increased light intensity helps the plants cope, plus they can then take better advantage of available CO².
Right on. My RH cruises in the 40s during the day...peaks at 65 during lights out. Got some pc fans blowing lightly over the canopy. If I were to laser temp the leaves, what is an optimum temp?
 

ttystikk

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Right on. My RH cruises in the 40s during the day...peaks at 65 during lights out. Got some pc fans blowing lightly over the canopy. If I were to laser temp the leaves, what is an optimum temp?
Leaf temps should be in the low 80s.

I run my RH around 65-70% day and night, this helps the plants transpire better and eases takeup of CO².
 

tick tack toe

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I noticed that my lights are currently at 8 inches and have been for a while :) I measure in cm so mistakes happen ... go 8 inches mate :D I might try 6 soon. ... we will see.

I have my plants at the 22 - 25 degree range which is where it should be. I'll keep watching my plants and see what happens.
 
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