Advanced Nutrients are great!!!

GrowerGoneWild

GrowerGoneWild

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value-based_pricing

http://uwmktg301.blogspot.com/2010/01/customer-perceived-value.html

"After two years of field testing conducted by a team of five Ph.D.s, the company unveiled a startling new line of products specifically engineered for hydroponics, which differs from soil growing in many key ways."

Proprietary formulas, specific engineered, PH.D's. Sounds awesome.. but is it?...

A cup of coffee is a cup of coffee until.... "Fairtrade, Organic, Locally sourced Coffee".

Bias, or placebo effect, powerfull stuff to make us think something is "better".. Im not singling out AN either, what about Aptus, or Heavy 16.. etc..
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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DirtyEyeball696 said:
AN is all about science. Google it


I love the coco!
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OK then. Let's take ancient earth. AN says its a source for fulvic and humic. They get it from leonardite. That shit has heavy metals in it.

I can go on but what's the point. AN does not list their ingredients. They say it has this and that but they are not specific.

Grand master grower. Wtf? That's direct from their web page.

Gtf out of here. All hog wash. If you take the time to actually look at what they are telling you then you would see it is all bull shit. Extra powererful chelation and it forces this and that.

31% bigger 37% faster. Blah. Blah. Blah.

Bunch of hog wash.
 
Enigmatic Ways

Enigmatic Ways

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whitebb2727 said:
OK then. Let's take ancient earth. AN says its a source for fulvic and humic. They get it from leonardite. That shit has heavy metals in it.

I can go on but what's the point. AN does not list their ingredients. They say it has this and that but they are not specific.

Grand master grower. Wtf? That's direct from their web page.

Gtf out of here. All hog wash. If you take the time to actually look at what they are telling you then you would see it is all bull shit. Extra powererful chelation and it forces this and that.

31% bigger 37% faster. Blah. Blah. Blah.

Bunch of hog wash.
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Let me ask you a question seriously, let's say somebody is achieving 1 gram per watt using Advanced Nutrients, would you still try to get them to change their nutrients or would you congratulate them on their success and give them tips and pointers on other ways to achieve more?
 
Enigmatic Ways

Enigmatic Ways

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dangledo said:
I'd tell them they could do it for pennies on an's dollar
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By growing organically right I would assume, but what about us guys who don't have the space or the time to cook a soil and get all the different amendments it's a task within itself if you live in the inner city its the same exact difference as ordering anything else that you would have to order from online because you just can't go walk in and get it from a store at least not where I'm from, it's a lot easier to just use these nutrients and pray that we can get close to organic results, which is a dream of course.
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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Enigmatic Ways said:
Let me ask you a question seriously, let's say somebody is achieving 1 gram per watt using Advanced Nutrients, would you still try to get them to change their nutrients or would you congratulate them on their success and give them tips and pointers on other ways to achieve more?
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Gram per watt is a newb thing to. It means nothing. If it takes you six months to get one gpw and I get .5 gpw in three it is the same thing. Gpw is a pointless figure.

You are wasting money. It is over hyped bullshit.

If you can't see that continue on your way.

Cannabis specific nutrients are a gimic. Its just a plant. It has no special needs. Any balanced nutrient will do what AN does.
 
Enigmatic Ways

Enigmatic Ways

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whitebb2727 said:
Gram per watt is a newb thing to. It means nothing. If it takes you six months to get one gpw and I get .5 gpw in three it is the same thing. Gpw is a pointless figure.

You are wasting money. It is over hyped bullshit.

If you can't see that continue on your way.

Cannabis specific nutrients are a gimic. Its just a plant. It has no special needs. Any balanced nutrient will do what AN does.
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Okay well let's say it a different way then, say you and a buddy are growing the exact same genetics from the exact same mother plant with the exact amount of light and the exact same environment and let them flower both for the exact same amount of time but your using GH and he's using AN and you get 5oz from your plant and he gets 8oz from his and the price difference for him to produce his results were $75 more would you take that trade off?
 
a mongo frog

a mongo frog

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Enigmatic Ways said:
Okay well let's say it a different way then, say you and a buddy are growing the exact same genetics from the exact same mother plant with the exact amount of light and the exact same environment and let them flower both for the exact same amount of time but your using GH and he's using AN and you get 5oz from your plant and he gets 8oz from his and the price difference for him to produce his results were $75 more would you take that trade off?
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Yea but your buddy is using grow micro and bloom and your using 16 different bottles. Plus you bought kushi kush.
 
GrowerGoneWild

GrowerGoneWild

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Enigmatic Ways said:
Okay well let's say it a different way then, say you and a buddy are growing the exact same genetics from the exact same mother plant with the exact amount of light and the exact same environment and let them flower both for the exact same amount of time but your using GH and he's using AN and you get 5oz from your plant and he gets 8oz from his and the price difference for him to produce his results were $75 more would you take that trade off?
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Weight is not the only thing to consider.. Aroma, Density, Appearance, Potency, Proper Cure is part of looking for top flowers.

In a way I dont mind growing organic soil.. yes it yields less, but my last run with Girls Scout Cookies the organic soil stuff flew out the door.. I really could pick out the chocolate tones.. crazy.. GSC in hydro looked better and was heavier, looked like it was rolled in kief, but not as tasty as organic soil, had more citrus, not as interesting smelling as the other stuff.
 
dangledo

dangledo

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Enigmatic Ways said:
By growing organically right I would assume, but what about us guys who don't have the space or the time to cook a soil and get all the different amendments it's a task within itself if you live in the inner city its the same exact difference as ordering anything else that you would have to order from online because you just can't go walk in and get it from a store at least not where I'm from, it's a lot easier to just use these nutrients and pray that we can get close to organic results, which is a dream of course.
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no, not organically....
 
dangledo

dangledo

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Where's the frost, popcorn farmer?

they look like my dogs chewed up tennis ball.
 
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