To flower or not to flower.

TheLemon

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stretching has more to do with light placement, heat (among other issues) if you have your light too high it will stretch it out..if as a seedling you didnt keep the light close enough,.. thats a factor. plus in the first few weeks of flowering youll see the "stretch" where alot of plants can double or more in height. stretching isnt gender specific.
My lights have been quite high, but I always thought they're a good height. Where on the big plant would you suggest I tie it down?

Oh and no preflowers just yet.. but it has the spikey things near the bud sites :D
 

TheLemon

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Relax guy, it's more of a generalized statement. I get that you later said they were feminized. Go smoke a bowl and chill.
Sorry man, It may be why I'm so cranky, I have no smoke to smoke right now :(
On subject tho, hopefully I'll see some preflowers soon and can find out for sure, fem seeds make me think I'll be ok, but they could hermie you never know...
 

DigitalTorture

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Sorry man, It may be why I'm so cranky, I have no smoke to smoke right now :(
On subject tho, hopefully I'll see some preflowers soon and can find out for sure, fem seeds make me think I'll be ok, but they could hermie you never know...
No problem. That's one thing I hate about feminized seeds. You never know about that. My dad always taught me to never go with those. I did try them once and all was good. But as the other poster replied, it probably is because the plants aren't close enough to the light. I always use 18 inches as a rough guide.
 

TheLemon

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My lights about 10" away from the big one and slightly more from the other so that can't be it either, I think ive waited too long to do anything with them, but i dunno. Maybe LST might help.
 

Dogenzengi

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These are all topped or FMed many times.
I crush any vertical stems, by squeezing between thumb and finger.
The green stem heals it creates more vertical fibers and thickens and hardens the stem.

I crush stems all thru veg, sort of a vertical form of LST.
These are my current Veg all plants are at 7 weeks, all Stems crushed as soon as they came out of the cloning hood. I don't do a whole plant, squeeze a few spots and in 5 days they will be like rock, then do other spots.

Bless,
DZ
 

wiethe20

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My lights about 10" away from the big one and slightly more from the other so that can't be it either, I think ive waited too long to do anything with them, but i dunno. Maybe LST might help.
10inches with cfl are to far away...my t5s stay 2 inches at most above plants no burning whatsoever
 

wiethe20

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Cuff the top of yourplant...your back of your hand is on top now so bring your lights down until you cannot with stand it for more then 10 seconds...then move it up an inch
 

TheLemon

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Yeah man, florescent bulbs need to be right up close to the plants or they lose penetration power. That's why they are best for cloning or starting seeds.
Ah, I see, well that could explain stretch, I was worried about burning them. I am considering doing the 24 hrs dark time today and flip tomorrow @ 6am

Btw my flower lights are 8800 lumens, you guys think that'll be enough for 2 plants? From what I know its like 5000 per sq ft.

put a fan on them and flip the lights enough said lol
Thats the thing, I already have one blowing at the runt 24/7 and only the main stem strengthened, the others are still as stringy as ever.
 

TheLemon

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These are all topped or FMed many times.
I crush any vertical stems, by squeezing between thumb and finger.
The green stem heals it creates more vertical fibers and thickens and hardens the stem.

I crush stems all thru veg, sort of a vertical form of LST.
These are my current Veg all plants are at 7 weeks, all Stems crushed as soon as they came out of the cloning hood. I don't do a whole plant, squeeze a few spots and in 5 days they will be like rock, then do other spots.

Bless,
DZ
Bit too extreme for me at this stage I would say, maybe in the future, but I would rather do LST to avoid stress, could end up making plants hermie i think.
 

DigitalTorture

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Ah, I see, well that could explain stretch, I was worried about burning them. I am considering doing the 24 hrs dark time today and flip tomorrow @ 6am

Btw my flower lights are 8800 lumens, you guys think that'll be enough for 2 plants? From what I know its like 5000 per sq ft.


Thats the thing, I already have one blowing at the runt 24/7 and only the main stem strengthened, the others are still as stringy as ever.
I can tell you right now that even a 400 watt hps would be better.
 

DigitalTorture

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Unfortunately cannot afford to buy any other stuff, the CFLs will do the job though right?
Well to do a decent job you would need at least 3 23w cfl per square foot. Although 5 of them would be better. A good guy on YouTube to learn from would be green ninja. He grows exclusively with cfl.
 

TheLemon

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Well to do a decent job you would need at least 3 23w cfl per square foot. Although 5 of them would be better. A good guy on YouTube to learn from would be green ninja. He grows exclusively with cfl.
I have 2 huge 300w CFLs so im guessing that'll be enough based on what you said, i should only need 1 then.
 

DigitalTorture

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I have 2 huge 300w CFLs so im guessing that'll be enough based on what you said, i should only need 1 then.
You would think so. I'm guessing that they aren't true 300 watters. Most of the time they say 300 watt "equivalent", which means that you are going to need more light. I'd use both of them. And remember to keep them really close, although not touching.
 

DigitalTorture

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And just a side note, I recently had my ballast die on me in the middle of veg. I called the company for a replacement. They said it could take a week or so to get a new one sent to me. That was not going to cut it. So what did I do? Searched the local buy and sell website for grow lights. I found a guy who was selling 3 400 watt lights - 1 mh and 2 hps. All for 60 dollars. Just a thought if you can't afford a new light.
 

New Age United

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You can flower at anytime bro it all depends on what you want to get off them. Your ww will produce at least a quarter of small stringy buds bc as you say it is a runt. Your fs could produce an oz, my suggestion change strains next time. Few suggestions, alsaskan thunderfuck, blueberry, northern lights, dakini kush, all good yielders and heavy hitting indicas. Just so you know sativa is much harder to grow, we'll not so much to grow it grows quick and strong but to produce good yields of compact solid buds is a real challenge, might want to stick with the indicas for a couple years, you'll find a good strain and it will encourage you to keep growing.
 
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