The303Yeti
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My plants are definitely a week or so behind you. My two sativas haven't even started getting any serious hairs . They just hit 6 feet tall though.
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My plants are definitely a week or so behind you. My two sativas haven't even started getting any serious hairs . They just hit 6 feet tall though.
jujment699
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Looking good! damn those sativas tho! i got one sativa pheno right now that looks about the same as yours... its doing virtually nothing as well. lol.
Im glad to see we're still on the same track tho, now that i got those damn claws to f*ck off
The303Yeti
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I had a sativa start and the other is growing abut an inch everyday. Monster colas for sure.Looking good! damn those sativas tho! i got one sativa pheno right now that looks about the same as yours... its doing virtually nothing as well. lol.
Im glad to see we're still on the same track tho, now that i got those damn claws to f*ck off
DirtyEyeball696
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Your mixing coco with promix? That's a waste of good coco & if you want a big healthy plant use 100% coco with a top coat of knat nix & you'll be super happy.
#dontmixperfection
Bawse!
jujment699
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Page 1 reply? Don't even think that person is apart of this thread anymore lol.
Also, coco is great and all but damn is it annoying. I wouldn't mix it, but straight coco is annoying as fuck.
DirtyEyeball696
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It's very PH strict & I mean strict. RO water & ph perfect nutes help but if your not PH'ing nutes every time regardless of nutes it can kill you. I've changed people over from dirt to coco but they soon find out how much work it takes & switch back. I love that I can never have a clone root lock in coco but in promix they would root lock in 2 weeks, in a solo cup.
Bawse!
drekoushranada
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Damn I forgot about this thread., LOL. That was very long ago. But that grow turned out very well. After that I started using 100% coco. These days I run a various grow styles.
jujment699
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I have used coco before and agree with the amazing results, it's just a pain in my ass, like you said, very strict. My tap is like 1K ppm and 8.9 ph (I got RO water) but even with my RO water there is still over 100 ppms and ph problems even in soil.
I've been planning a big coco grow once I can move to a more solid location. Clones r great for coco.
Honestly though IMO if you're going to coco route you might as well surrender and go with aero or hydro if you're going to fuck around with .000 values. I got an aero setup for clones and I just dump food in twice a week and they're usually good.
I've been planning a big coco grow once I can move to a more solid location. Clones r great for coco.
Honestly though IMO if you're going to coco route you might as well surrender and go with aero or hydro if you're going to fuck around with .000 values. I got an aero setup for clones and I just dump food in twice a week and they're usually good.
Maat Aatack
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Funny I was just thinking about giving coco a go when I saw the most recent posts. Now I think I'm going to stick with dirt while I fine tune this pheno.
I did some 4th week thinning of the undergrowth. The plants were looking stressed, so I figured they would benefit from increased air flow as well as less foliage to support. With the feed water water feed schedule, the have appeared to want more food. I recently switched away from GH because of the salts, and am giving Cutting Edge a try.
I did some 4th week thinning of the undergrowth. The plants were looking stressed, so I figured they would benefit from increased air flow as well as less foliage to support. With the feed water water feed schedule, the have appeared to want more food. I recently switched away from GH because of the salts, and am giving Cutting Edge a try.
haulinbass
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You going to kill your ro membrane right quick without a water softener at those ppms. Coco is a little more work than soil but the results are fantastic. If im growing with salt ferts im growing in coco, if im growing in peat its recycled and composted living soil. i like having my moms in weak living soil in smaller pots to keep them down on the size, a plant in coco even in a #1 pot(1.5l) can get huge and then just fall over anytime it gets slightly dry.
jujment699
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Dude... Softening your water is one of the worst things you could do. Talk about nute lockout and all that salt build up. My buddy used soft water and after had an inch of salt at the bottom of his pot. Not a good strategy. Rather buy $10 membranes and get $500 profs instead of no profs.
haulinbass
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That why you use the ro after the softener, most farmers around here use well water, wich is something like 3000ppm, it goes through an iron eater softener then through reverse osmosis where it comes out around 6 ppm.
I tried helping if you want to argue have fun,
I tried helping if you want to argue have fun,
Maat Aatack
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<runs downstairs to make sure his water supply is not routed through the softener>
hotrodharley
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Saves the membrane
jujment699
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Just because I'm defending my experiences doesn't mean I'm arguing and that you are wrong. Sorry for the hostility I was just surprised by your comment.
Salt in water is just an extremely difficult bond to break and the only way to entirely rid it from water is to boil it (distill.) otherwise even the best reverse osmosis will leave a residue of salt. Especially if you're dissolving pounds of it into your entire water supply twice a week. 6ppm isn't bad but I've never seen it that low through a softener even with RO.
Salt is something you don't even want any ppms of or else all your roots will crust over and lockout. And in soil, how many watering a in a plants life? 50? 100? My plants are so thirsty because my state is so dry I water almost every day. That is 5 times a week multiplied by like 10-12 weeks. Plus however long I veg, which is a long time because I super crop and LST... So you can imagine that is quite a buildup.
Even at 6 ppms that is still 300 in buildup. I think his is closer to 45 though after the softener. So... That is like 2250 ppms of salt residue.
Also when you need to flush? Well now you got to buy gallons upon gallons of distilled or you'll just be loading more salt in there. And even then that much salt after that much watering is probably not going anywhere even after viscous flushing. It is just going to be sitting in a pile in the bottom of your pots.
Again. Your experience may differ. But I'm not touching soft water lol.
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hotrodharley
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Water softeners and marijuana don't mix. It's just an added salt. It's that simple.
Maat Aatack
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jujment699
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Looking great!
Ran into a little prob with my plants... buds stopped growing and pistils are browning but no increase in size. I am hoping these are extremely dense since they are going nowhere... i fear a light leak or hermie since these wwxbbs seem to be known for that. i also thought it was nute lockout but no claw and no signs of it... these plants have been nothing but trouble ugh... thing is i got a CSS and strawberry blue barely 4 weeks in and almost as big buds as these wwxbb... same tent, same conditions, same watering and feeding is close but obviously measured by strain... just sucks these dumb plants are being so troublesome.
Maat Aatack
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Really sorry to hear your troubles. Very confusing I must admit. The only thing I can think of would be genetics, specifically those from the seed you used and possibly the breeder.
I did have a bit of trouble switching nute lines, but I'm back to pushing up pistils.
jujment699
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Had a bit of an under watering emergency lol... Guess I got too stoned and forgot to water them (dat Labor Day weekend doe) xD
Gave them a hella bath though soaked em in the foliage and the root zone and now they're back to normal but it was quite the scare opening my veg tent and seeing my beautiful mothers like that.