Would you be pissed or am i in the wrong?

Mr.Goodtimes

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So I just thought I'd come ask the growers if I'm in the wrong between me and my friend who had a falling out over my grow.

I've known this guy since highschool, 15+ years, and has been one of my closest friends since.
I was living in a different town growing and when I moved back I decided to bring him in to be the one guy I got rid of my produce to. At the time I first moved back I was having a few friends of mine come over to help me harvest (because of living arrangements I only had a few hours to get plants down). We'll he is my friend so I let him get involved helping me harvest. He was only helping as my friend.

Well I moved out of there and upgraded my setup, and since I was in my own place I quit asking him for help as much. He would call and say I was "cutting him out" because he would come and harvest and "get part of the trimmings" because "he is invested in this too." Fucker would pretty much come around acting like he was my boss or manager telling me not to sell to anyone but him, setting the price, trying to get equipment for me from another guy who used to be a grower (which I told him flat out not to do). Even brought weed back before because it shaked up, or he left a bag open and it evaporated weight when I told him not to get it until after cure, but noooo he wants it now. Telling me he got whatever I need cuz he is invested, but couldn't even come cash up on a QP....

The deal is he has never invested and I have been giving everything to him on the front. I know other people so eventually I had to talk to another of my close friends, and he offered to take everything for more money and cash up front. So I talked to the other guy and said he had to start coming cash up front or I was going to have to charge him more. He threw a full on temper tantrum, cussed me out, called me greedy, and asked how could I do this after he invested so much time and money. I had said I'd save him some, but that's not good enough and he wants ALL of it or I'm somehow fucking him over.

So, I mean, I told him that he never invested a dime of his own money, I thought he was helping as my friend when I needed it, and he was never my partner. Now he is pissed, and I want to kick his ass. I cut him off (or course), but he was my friend and I feelz bad.

What do? Bygones be bygones?

P.S. I've known him long enough to know he isn't a snitch, so don't have to worry about that. Just a guy who suffers from anxiety and depression, which is where his attitude comes from.... And also why I can be so pissed at him and feel bad for him at the same time.
 

sunni

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Maybe tell him exactly how you're feeling you're good friends it seems
Boundaries can get lost in long term friendships
Talk with him tell him how you feel and listen to him
Come to some sort of resolution
 

fandango

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Good long term friends are a good thing.Sounds like you should help him set his own grow?work it out and save the brother.
Weed comes and goes for ever mister,so get talking to him and keep selling your weed to him,until he can grow his own.
 

vostok

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Drug Lords falling out, we have a different way of dealing with triffles in my part of the world, but as you called him 'suffers from anxiety and depression' not exactly the ideal partner under these conditions, once again 'Sunni' is correct...be nice, try and make up ...be friends, see this as your first encounter with the 'drug world'
 

torontoke

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If he is a real friend.
Roll up a dozen joints and invite the guy fishing or whatever it was you did together when u chilled and have a real conversation.
Leave the growing and selling stuff out. Mend your friendship then offer to help him get his own grow going.
Maybe break him off a bit and supply some cuttings etc and in a few months he will be less anxious and depressed and more importantly a friend.
Friendships are valuable especially in this day n age.
 

Jimmyjonestoo

Well-Known Member
Good long term friends are a good thing.Sounds like you should help him set his own grow?work it out and save the brother.
Weed comes and goes for ever mister,so get talking to him and keep selling your weed to him,until he can grow his own.
Best response.
 

justugh

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So I just thought I'd come ask the growers if I'm in the wrong between me and my friend who had a falling out over my grow.

I've known this guy since highschool, 15+ years, and has been one of my closest friends since.
I was living in a different town growing and when I moved back I decided to bring him in to be the one guy I got rid of my produce to. At the time I first moved back I was having a few friends of mine come over to help me harvest (because of living arrangements I only had a few hours to get plants down). We'll he is my friend so I let him get involved helping me harvest. He was only helping as my friend.

Well I moved out of there and upgraded my setup, and since I was in my own place I quit asking him for help as much. He would call and say I was "cutting him out" because he would come and harvest and "get part of the trimmings" because "he is invested in this too." Fucker would pretty much come around acting like he was my boss or manager telling me not to sell to anyone but him, setting the price, trying to get equipment for me from another guy who used to be a grower (which I told him flat out not to do). Even brought weed back before because it shaked up, or he left a bag open and it evaporated weight when I told him not to get it until after cure, but noooo he wants it now. Telling me he got whatever I need cuz he is invested, but couldn't even come cash up on a QP....

The deal is he has never invested and I have been giving everything to him on the front. I know other people so eventually I had to talk to another of my close friends, and he offered to take everything for more money and cash up front. So I talked to the other guy and said he had to start coming cash up front or I was going to have to charge him more. He threw a full on temper tantrum, cussed me out, called me greedy, and asked how could I do this after he invested so much time and money. I had said I'd save him some, but that's not good enough and he wants ALL of it or I'm somehow fucking him over.

So, I mean, I told him that he never invested a dime of his own money, I thought he was helping as my friend when I needed it, and he was never my partner. Now he is pissed, and I want to kick his ass. I cut him off (or course), but he was my friend and I feelz bad.

What do? Bygones be bygones?

P.S. I've known him long enough to know he isn't a snitch, so don't have to worry about that. Just a guy who suffers from anxiety and depression, which is where his attitude comes from.... And also why I can be so pissed at him and feel bad for him at the same time.

he is in the wrong ........from the sound of it he is using your supply to pay for his life ......by u not selling to him /fronting him he has just lost the most of his funding (and rep in the area)

it is simple tell the guy i got bills i got over head i got my own money needs.......i can help out now and then on the front but i need a steady supply of cash each month to pay for my rent power and feeds ....u been having issue about paying it off on time .....it not like i can call the power ppl and say i need 10 days more to get u the money buddy has not dropped of cash yet(they do not care they want the money now and will shut your shit off if do not have it )

u want all my shit fine show up here with all the cash the time u pick up other wise u are limited to QP month .....got the cash i sell u more


as for the dry i know how u can do it better
tent 3x3x5
carbon filter for ejected air
quick cure rack
2 axis fan
dehumidifier humidifier
u cut the branches off leave about 2 inch of stem on the end and lay them down on the rack do this for the whole plant ......by doing that u let the water evenly go tho all the sticks and buds....just keep the RH in the tent at 50% .....give them 7 days in there like and they are ready for jaring add 0.5 extra of a gram .....and your jars will always be spot on or 0.3 over

only other thing if the tent's RH is above 55% add 24 hours more to dry
 

Downtowntillman

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A good friend is hard to find yes, you probably have been through some tough times before.maybe not too this extent but sound like you care enough to want to help. I agree with the others. Help with his own grow in what ever way you can. But partners are never a good idea sadly friends and family are the worse. Family will use you quicker than anyone. Hope your friendship and time you have taken in saving it works out. Roll him one to take to the head. Then begin the talk.
 

Dr.Pecker

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Tell him hes not your grow buddy until he foots half the bill. When he realizes the price tag attached he might have a second opinion. Most people don't understand what we growers go through. sort of quoting charface
 

Mr.Goodtimes

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Good advice guys.

I still have to calm down before I speak to him or it won't end well (i'm easily twice his size). I think I'll do as Sunni suggested and explain my side (which I have tried doing before) but also show him my spreadsheet showing costs of doing business, maybe that will get him to come around. If not I tried.

I'd love to get him growing and have offered multiple times to set him up but he has a wife and kids he is worried about.... So that's out... Really ain't much I can do unless he is ready....
 

Dr.Pecker

Well-Known Member
Good advice guys.

I still have to calm down before I speak to him or it won't end well (i'm easily twice his size). I think I'll do as Sunni suggested and explain my side (which I have tried doing before) but also show him my spreadsheet showing costs of doing business, maybe that will get him to come around. If not I tried.

I'd love to get him growing and have offered multiple times to set him up but he has a wife and kids he is worried about.... So that's out... Really ain't much I can do unless he is ready....
Your a good dude for giving it to him on a front man. I had a friend like that once. I owed him $7000 at one point and paid him back he was a very cool dude. He died but I still rock some of his gonja strains as a tribute. Don't get frustrated, keep your cool at all costs.
 

Lord Kanti

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Good advice guys.

I still have to calm down before I speak to him or it won't end well (i'm easily twice his size). I think I'll do as Sunni suggested and explain my side (which I have tried doing before) but also show him my spreadsheet showing costs of doing business, maybe that will get him to come around. If not I tried.

I'd love to get him growing and have offered multiple times to set him up but he has a wife and kids he is worried about.... So that's out... Really ain't much I can do unless he is ready....
You're not running a friendly charity. Lay things out, and if he can't hang tell him you're going to have to be friends only. Toss him a baggy of Littles or something if you feel it will patch things up.
 
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