Donald Trump Leading The Republicans

[Fogdog]

I'm looking to understand others. Want to know what they think is fair and what is right.

I think only you and I were talking. The others were engaged in a cockfight or unwilling to discuss. It's just that for me, as an atheist, I see churches as clubs or meeting places and not charitable organizations. They give money, sure but most is used to perpetuate the church. Then there is the to me awful politics that many churches engage in where they do the opposite of what the doctrine says. I don't understand why they should not be taxed. That should be for true charities.

 

[UncleBuck]

Do you respect the opinion of the NAACP?

Let them decide if your most recent bigoted writings and pictures directed at Nitro are racist or not. What do you say to that?

There is only one reason you used "blacks" in the article and the pictures --- it was disparaging, vile and denigrating to blacks.

Accept it, you are clearly a "RACIST".

the fact that nitro's family loves to fuck black men does not make me a racist.

 

[NLXSK1]

I think only you and I were talking. The others were engaged in a cockfight or unwilling to discuss. It's just that for me, as an atheist, I see churches as clubs or meeting places and not charitable organizations. They give money, sure but most is used to perpetuate the church. Then there is the to me awful politics that many churches engage in where they do the opposite of what the doctrine says. I don't understand why they should not be taxed. That should be for true charities.

You are lumping churches in with religion. Mabye that is the reason you are having such a problem with the discussion.

Whether there is a god or not had nothing to do with organized religion.

 

[fandango]

Back to C4...thank god you are not my cell mate...wonder where you would fit that 17"er

Trump for President.

 

[Fogdog]

faith
fāTH/
noun

1. 1.
   complete trust or confidence in someone or something.

You have faith and/or confidence that god does not exist and it is complete until something concrete smashes into your forehead to dispute that faith.

Prove to me god does not exist and you can call it being an Athiest based on fact. However, if you cannot prove to me that god does not in fact exist then all you have is faith as well.

If you are not sure whether god exists or not and/or that proof cannot be produced then you are an agnostic. If you have faith that god does not exist not based on reality, rather just based on your perceptions and what other people have told you then you are just as indoctrinated as the OP. The point is that indoctrination to one person is fact to another person and it was what I was trying to point out from the beginning of this conversation.

For me, god either exists or he does not. My knowledge or lack thereof does not alter this reality.

Many people are angry at organized religion. That is not my problem just like slavery in America was not and is not my problem. I was not around when it was created and I never had anything to do with it.

No, I don't not have faith or confidence that a god does not exist. I cannot accept that a god exists without proof, which is not forthcoming. This is not indoctrination, it is reason, a core concept of atheism. I also accept that you are a subhuman with poor reading skills. I have proof of that in your reply.

 

[UncleBuck]

faith
fāTH/
noun

1. 1.
   complete trust or confidence in someone or something.

You have faith and/or confidence that god does not exist and it is complete until something concrete smashes into your forehead to dispute that faith.

Prove to me god does not exist and you can call it being an Athiest based on fact. However, if you cannot prove to me that god does not in fact exist then all you have is faith as well.

If you are not sure whether god exists or not and/or that proof cannot be produced then you are an agnostic. If you have faith that god does not exist not based on reality, rather just based on your perceptions and what other people have told you then you are just as indoctrinated as the OP. The point is that indoctrination to one person is fact to another person and it was what I was trying to point out from the beginning of this conversation.

For me, god either exists or he does not. My knowledge or lack thereof does not alter this reality.

Many people are angry at organized religion. That is not my problem just like slavery in America was not and is not my problem. I was not around when it was created and I never had anything to do with it.

forest fires cause global cooling.

 

[UncleBuck]

You are lumping churches in with religion. .

iLOL.

 

[abandonconflict]

I heard somewhere that forest fires cause global cooling.

 

[NLXSK1]

No, I don't not have faith or confidence that a god does not exist. I cannot accept that a god exists without proof, which is not forthcoming. This is not indoctrination, it is reason, a core concept of atheism. I also accept that you are a subhuman with poor reading skills. I have proof of that in your reply.

But you dont have proof so what is your belief based on?

If your belief is based on a lack of proof then your belief is based in faith, not fact.

You cannot see television waves or hear radio channels without a receiver. They dont exist either right? I mean, you dont really have proof they exist, they just magically appear in a box.

 

[Fogdog]

You are lumping churches in with religion. Mabye that is the reason you are having such a problem with the discussion.

Whether there is a god or not had nothing to do with organized religion.

where in my statement do you see religion referenced at all?

 

[NLXSK1]

where in my statement do you see religion referenced at all?

Have you ever been inside a church? They do religion there

 

[Fogdog]

But you dont have proof so what is your belief based on?

If your belief is based on a lack of proof then your belief is based in faith, not fact.

You cannot see television waves or hear radio channels without a receiver. They dont exist either right? I mean, you dont really have proof they exist, they just magically appear in a box.

Atheism is based on the fact that the existence of god is unprovable. That's why I prefer to say convinced rather than believe. I refuse to accept as true something that by definition cannot be proven. Once we begin to accept the unprovable all sorts of errors in thinking creep in. The existence of electromagnetic radiation is pretty well proven. I guess to the ignorant it might seem supernatural, like God. If humans stop there and say its magic, we never would have explored the physics and materials science behind EMR and eventually learn how to make use of it. Which explains your difficulty understanding my explanation. You believe in god, an unprovable and so you stop questioning. You believe in magic in television and radio too, I guess.

 

[abandonconflict]

But you dont have proof so what is your belief based on?

If your belief is based on a lack of proof then your belief is based in faith, not fact.

You cannot see television waves or hear radio channels without a receiver. They dont exist either right? I mean, you dont really have proof they exist, they just magically appear in a box.

Proof that God does not exist lies in the following argument:

Creation does not require a god to exist.
The existence of the universe is better explained without a creator.
Therefore there is no god.

 

[Fogdog]

Have you ever been inside a church? They do religion there

You are lumping churches in with religion. Mabye that is the reason you are having such a problem with the discussion.

Whether there is a god or not had nothing to do with organized religion.

What the hell? I said that churches are clubs or social groups. Whatever mumbo jumbo goes on in there is of no consequence.

 

[Fogdog]

Proof that God does not exist lies in the following argument:

Creation does not require a god to exist.
The existence of the universe is better explained without a creator.
Therefore there is no god.

Who is this guy? Is he trolling or incredibly obtuse?

Nice reply by the way.

 

[CC Dobbs]

Atheism is based on the fact that the existence of god is unprovable. That's why I prefer to say convinced rather than believe. I refuse to accept as true something that by definition cannot be proven. Once we begin to accept the unprovable all sorts of errors in thinking creep in. The existence of electromagnetic radiation is pretty well proven. I guess to the ignorant it might seem supernatural, like God. If humans stop there and say its magic, we never would have explored the physics and materials science behind EMR and eventually learn how to make use of it. Which explains your difficulty understanding my explanation. You believe in god, an unprovable and so you stop questioning. You believe in magic in television and radio too, I guess.

I am an atheist.

It seems that atheism is more a believe that nothing beyond our understanding of natural laws is necessary to explain the point of our being here on this planet. It leaves much to be desired as a belief but I am very comfortable with the unanswered questions. It gives me something to ponder and I use this opportunity to explore different possibilities.

 

[abandonconflict]

Back in the day when I was young, I'm not kid anymore, but somedays I sit and wish I was a kid again.

 

[Flaming Pie]

I think only you and I were talking. The others were engaged in a cockfight or unwilling to discuss. It's just that for me, as an atheist, I see churches as clubs or meeting places and not charitable organizations. They give money, sure but most is used to perpetuate the church. Then there is the to me awful politics that many churches engage in where they do the opposite of what the doctrine says. I don't understand why they should not be taxed. That should be for true charities.

Who is this guy? Is he trolling or incredibly obtuse?

Nice reply by the way.

NLX1 is the whipping boy around here.

I don't quite understand the Making fun of his dead wife and kids.

 

[god1]

the fact that nitro's family loves to fuck black men does not make me a racist.

You dim-wit, this isn't about Nitro or his family. It's about your behavior and the fact that you're a full blown racist.

Don't take my word for it, request and use the judgement of NAACP as a reference.

Email them a package of your material and seek their opinion.

Just let it go, you're a "RACIST".

 

[Flaming Pie]

I am an atheist.

It seems that atheism is more a believe that nothing beyond our understanding of natural laws is necessary to explain the point of our being here on this planet. It leaves much to be desired as a belief but I am very comfortable with the unanswered questions. It gives me something to ponder and I use this opportunity to explore different possibilities.

This right here is what I like. Hearing honest expressions of self.