curious old fart
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I saw a closed loop butane system that recovered all of the gas and left a clean product that didn't require vacuuming.....It was on CNN's High Profits.
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GemuGrows
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#Sanjay GuptaI saw a closed loop butane system that recovered all of the gas and left a clean product that didn't require vacuuming.....It was on CNN's High Profits.
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AllDayToker
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Yeah I saw that too, wonder how much those systems run ya.I saw a closed loop butane system that recovered all of the gas and left a clean product that didn't require vacuuming.....It was on CNN's High Profits.
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curious old fart
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I estimated around $10,000.....but that's just a wag-wild ass guess.
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AlphaPhase
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My buddy has this one, it's a terpinator and it's about 2000, but they make bigger ones that are 5k and even more. Closed loop ftw!! 
GemuGrows
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AlphaPhase
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Gotta love the names of mj gear nowadays
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GemuGrows
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A nug from my last harvest: Unknown herm genetics I accidentally made myself, still dank as hell. Edit: I named this strain "First lady." its the first plant/12 of I trimmed from this batch of random test seeds, and its seriously resy as hell.
^Some plants I have vegging. Berry white, White OG bagseeds, unkown bush i'm bondaging but seems pretty awesome, I put its two sisters outside but I think i'm going to finish this one inside. And I have a few of my own strains growing out.
I have 2 plants in jars, 2 plants drying, and 8 plants nearing ready to harvest, and I have 9 plants vegging right now, but I don't think i'll flower them all indoor. Probably just going to pick the strongest ones to flower after a few weeks here
^Some plants I have vegging. Berry white, White OG bagseeds, unkown bush i'm bondaging but seems pretty awesome, I put its two sisters outside but I think i'm going to finish this one inside. And I have a few of my own strains growing out.
I have 2 plants in jars, 2 plants drying, and 8 plants nearing ready to harvest, and I have 9 plants vegging right now, but I don't think i'll flower them all indoor. Probably just going to pick the strongest ones to flower after a few weeks here
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AlphaPhase
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Nice GemuGrows, that Bush is gonna be a monster! What's your take on herm plants? I don't really buy the whole theory really. I mean, all female plants have the genetics to herm if you think about it. All female plants can pollinate themselves, so I think the only problem is some female plants just herm easier than others due to a unknown stress. I don't think that the plant just does it on its own, I think it's just an environmental thing. Perhaps growing strains in a location that the strain genetics are not used to. Could be something as easy as too high rh or temp causing the plant to herm, but when all environment factors are OK for that particular strain, I bet it would flower out just fine. Just my 2 cents, what's everyone else's guess on reason plants herm?
GemuGrows
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Unfortunately for me like 95% of my plants have hermed; but I know its genetic and not up to my skill.
I've still literally produced among the best smoke in my state with the herms, and it adds to my seed stalk and lets me continue growing out strains I have been more impressed with.
IMO (and I literally have no facts to back this up), is that a plant that has been pollinated has a few more cannabanoids/chemicals than a plant that has not been pollinated. I imagine that would be because the plant now has to produce seeds and therefore produces a slightly larger cannabanoid profile; that being said I would prefer to grow sensi.
My first grow all hermed and I felt horrible about it because all my non bagseeds hermed, but i've been growing "female" seeds from those plants with great results; but its also one of my only opportunities to up my seed stock. And I would say maybe some of my herm problems are from stress, but my first grow I had 6 bomb herm females, and 2 bagseed females; my bomb herm genetics did and have each hermed each time, but those 2 bagseeds did not herm at all. I probably had some environment issues, but i'm very confident the hermaphrodite is in the genetics of these plants; but I still love growing them out.
They still literally produce some of the best smoke around even though they hermed, but I would prefer they don't herm but they do so I deal with it cuz they are still insane.
Just my 0.02; some day i'll get genetics that don't have the issue, but at this point i'm still comfortable with growing what I have as they are incrediby unique strains
AlphaPhase
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Right on bro, most of the best strains tend to show male flowers for a lot of people, most clone only strains are from a plant that happened to herm, so it definitely isn't a quality issue if stressed too much, or even a little, all plants will herm, that's my reasoning behind my thought on herms. It's wierd because I've never had anything herm, and my environment isn't perfect by any means, but I've grown out plants that have hermed for others that didn't herm for me so I'm like wth is going on lol. I can make any plant herm just by letting them flower for too long, but I've never come across anything that's hermed early in flower. My friend said his friend has strains that won't herm for him at all, but he grows outside, but all those strains for his indoor grow hermed. Just something to think about. I've been thinking a lot about it and can only come up with indoor environment causing the herms. We may think our indoor conditions are good, but maybe a particular plant just needs highly elevated co2 levels to not herm, or something along those lines. Which would mean it just herms under not so dialed in environments (even if things seem perfect indoor, outdoor there are many factors we cant have indoor)
if stressed too much, or even a little, all plants will herm, that's my reasoning behind my thought on herms. It's wierd because I've never had anything herm, and my environment isn't perfect by any means, but I've grown out plants that have hermed for others that didn't herm for me so I'm like wth is going on lol. I can make any plant herm just by letting them flower for too long, but I've never come across anything that's hermed early in flower. My friend said his friend has strains that won't herm for him at all, but he grows outside, but all those strains for his indoor grow hermed. Just something to think about. I've been thinking a lot about it and can only come up with indoor environment causing the herms. We may think our indoor conditions are good, but maybe a particular plant just needs highly elevated co2 levels to not herm, or something along those lines. Which would mean it just herms under not so dialed in environments (even if things seem perfect indoor, outdoor there are many factors we cant have indoor)
curious old fart
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some dry ice hash
about 45 days old
fresh....as in about 3 hours old
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Gratefulgrowin93
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@AlphaPhase very true, I've noticed the same after a few seasons of running the same strains indoor and out, and clone vs seedling mommasRight on bro, most of the best strains tend to show male flowers for a lot of people, most clone only strains are from a plant that happened to herm, so it definitely isn't a quality issue
some didn't herm on me that gave everyone in my area trouble, but then I've had problems with some clone only strains herming from light leaks and minor stresses my fault of course being new to indoor at the time
I've had mixed results from seed if i let some girls go too long they hermed no matter what
nearly a perpetual i wish it was haha I'm working on that this run
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happy gardening all!
There is a difference between a hermaphrodite and a plant that is left to the point of self seeding.Right on bro, most of the best strains tend to show male flowers for a lot of people, most clone only strains are from a plant that happened to herm, so it definitely isn't a quality issue
A herm. will grow many male flowers in clusters around the base of the node, all over the plant
starting at the top naturally those are the oldest buds the plant that self seeds will grow single
male "pecker" in the bud not at the base so it only has a very limited pollination range and will
only form a very few seeds in that bud, these seeds won't herm when germinated, a seed that
comes from a hermaphrodite has a strong likelihood of producing a hermaphrodite. But all will
be female no matter which way they're formed.
I think I've explained it right.
DST
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When do you start seeing some colour lad?
GemuGrows
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I harvested a plant yesteraday that over night turned all purple and grew dicks everywhere.There is a difference between a hermaphrodite and a plant that is left to the point of self seeding.
A herm. will grow many male flowers in clusters around the base of the node, all over the plant
starting at the top naturally those are the oldest buds the plant that self seeds will grow single
male "pecker" in the bud not at the base so it only has a very limited pollination range and will
only form a very few seeds in that bud, these seeds won't herm when germinated, a seed that
comes from a hermaphrodite has a strong likelihood of producing a hermaphrodite. But all will
be female no matter which way they're formed.
I think I've explained it right.
I can tolerate a few dicks on a herm, but this plant was too much. I think this was an OG kush./lemon skunk/something else cross, and I wanted to let it grow another 3 weeks or so to stack up, but this plant literally had too many dicks even for a herm grower (as I am).
These genetics smell insane, but I just couldnt grow out a herm this heavy. Even the plant I harvested that was full of dicks was one of the strongest citrus smelling plants i've ever seen; I might grow out a few seeds. That being said, it was very dank, but not quite the dankest plants I grew. If it pollonated some of my danker plants i'd love to cross that lemon ass citrus plant with my other plants; it would probably make insane genetics (That will herm..).
I can't imagine growing herms for more than another 2-3 harvests, but i'm having a lot of fun with these fucks i'm growing these days
But I do grow almost all herms and I genreally tolerate themm cuz its all I've got atm
