Hgrow
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Yeah , plants grow well . of course ,they are real . diy .Yup plants are growing, are they real, who knows, I'll stick with diy,
Yeah , plants grow well . of course ,they are real . diy .Yup plants are growing, are they real, who knows, I'll stick with diy,
I do not. Just threw that as a possibility. Best way is to get a real XP-E from a respectable source and compare it then.How do you know that they are Fake XPES ?? Please let us know how to know real and fake Cree led chip , would like to learn from you if possible .
I thought that you can know whether the cree led chips are real or not . Then you can teach people . Yeah , there is a possibility . Yeah ,that sounds good idea .I do not. Just threw that as a possibility. Best way is to get a real XP-E from a respectable source and compare it then.
It depends . Manufacturers are good at making products.the vast majority of Led users on here have switched to DIY, a store bought light fixture is not DIY, those small led chips cant come close to the large Cree cobs people are building with on Rolitup, I am happy to see your growing a good size crop, But I think your missing the point here, what do you do if a row of your lights go out, or if your fans quit working, can you fix it yourself?,, with the DIY cobs you can,
This one price is USD 595
It depends . Manufacturers are good at making products.
Hi Hgrow!The problem is how to know whether they are real or fake .
Yes , manufacturers have a series of testing when they make LED light products .Correction
Manufacturers are making better products because people are turning to DIY. Not because they give a shit about quality. They have proven that over the years. Keep studying the forums..
They claim that they are real XPE and prove to me the link with emails ,the point is that they said if prove that they are fake , then return the money and pay for the loss . That sounds good .Hi Hgrow!
An makro image(15-20cm distance) of the front with !disconnected! panel would give the enlightenment. Why are you showing the unit turned on where you can not see anything except that it lit? On your pictures the XPE have a round PBC with 15 LED's, your panel looks like one big PBC with 14x 14 LED's. And a Cree unit with 90 LED's for 219$ in nearly impossible, at least with real xte's.
If you have paid for a Cree unit, you were cheated my friend!
First off, the A51 RW75 is $199 currently (you are looking at the old site). Second, that light you are pushing is 90x3w diodes but they are not driven that hard. They are probably running @ about 1.75w per light, if they are lucky and probably very inefficient. I notice there is no details from your links above. Not only that, the drivers are probably garbage. Just because you utilize CREE diodes does not mean you are utilizing quality drivers to go with them.This one price is USD 595
http://growershouse.com/kind-led-k3-l300-grow-light
The Cree similar Panel price is USD 219 ( All Cree led chips ) 90 pcs CREE LED chips .
Area 51 RW Price is USD 285 .
http://a51led.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65&products_id=191
Doesn't matter . Who knows . Forget .Lol, because they know you can't prove it? They are cheating people with technicalities and double meanings in their product statements. They are also laughing at you while they do so, unless you work with them, which is highly likely seeing your previous posts, and your use of the English language in these posts.
Besides, the point is that these lights will NOT last as long as they are supposed to, and the whole point of LED is efficiency, so just because you have a really strong light doesn't mean you will grow amazing plants, it just means you are compensating for the lack of quality in your light
That's good . Share with us when you finish your DIY Cree cobsI feel like I am being sold a bill of good s, no thanks keep your purple people eater I'll build my Cree cobs , go white power
Come on ,man . Are you kidding me ??? Seller ??? You must be kidding .He is the seller! Quit giving him insight on how to pull a fast one!