Advanced Nutrients

[pk_boosted2]

Only thing 600s are better for is heat and lumens per watt. There's no replacing a 1000w bulb.

A 1000w bulb has stronger light and more penetration. Light coverage is about the same but the light intensity is much better w a 1000w bulb. A 600w and 400w covers more space potentially leading to more yield you wud have to try it and find out idk an answer to that one, that's a good question!!

Obviously the best would be 2 (600s) roughly only 200 more watts but WAY MORE lumens and coverage and proly an easy 50% yield increase over a 1000w in comparison while only needing 200 more watts.

I know several ppl running 600s who used run 1000s and watt for watt I believe ur better off with 7 (600s) over 4 (1000s) that's a no brainier. 1000w are good for big grows bcuz it's less ballasts and hoods etc.. While still getting the yields u want but if u can afford all the 600s than go with the 600s all day

 

[pk_boosted2]

Right, more watts usually means more yield if you can manage the extra heat. But more watts doesn't mean 'better quality'.

Another moronic post from home schooled.

So now a lower watt bulb grows better quality??
Damn the SUN must be overrated than lmao

 

[707humboldt]

Right, more watts usually means more yield if you can manage the extra heat. But more watts doesn't mean 'better quality'.

It means denser buds, which you admittedly have a problem with and are blaming sativas as a whole for it. And it absolutely means better quality if you know what your doing. Last time I checked denser buds are more desirable than airy. Definitely better resin production as well.

 

[homebrewer]

It means denser buds, which you admittedly have a problem with and are blaming sativas as a whole for it. And it absolutely means better quality if you know what your doing. Last time I checked denser buds are more desirable than airy. Definitely better resin production as well.

If you think 'more watts' equals 'more quality' then you don't understand how lighting works.

 

[707humboldt]

If you think 'more watts' equals 'more quality' then you don't understand how lighting works.

If you think 600s are better than 1000s you don't know how lighting works. They definitely will produce denser buds.

 

[707humboldt]

I run material for people who use 600s. The shatter from the 1000s always comes out better. Means the starting material from the 1000s was better.

 

[homebrewer]

If you think 600s are better than 1000s you don't know how lighting works. They definitely will produce denser buds.

Yes, I agree. But denser buds are more likely to mold so pick your poison.

 

[707humboldt]

Keep your environment right and you won't get mold! Use a sealed room with 1000s, ac, co2 burner with controller, dehums, and plenty of fans and you will never get bud rot indoors. Did you really just say don't use 1000s because your buds will be denser and you have a higher chance of getting mold?

I choose 1000s in a completely controlled environment with dense buds and no mold.

 

[707humboldt]

I don't even know why I'm arguing with you. If you wan to use 600s, use them. If you ever want to get the full potential out of your plants, buy some 1000s. Preferably 1000w DE, their awesome

 

[pk_boosted2]

That's absolutely gorgeous! I have to admit that you know your shit!

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Do you recall how many days 12/12 this was?

I got way better pot shots than that I need to get my cloud backed onto my new iPad ill post soon as possible.
My mac book in the apple shop gettin new battery and update hopefully have it this weekend I hope!!

It just not as good quality on pics bcuz the iPad doesn't have a flash and it's hard hold it steady an they came out kinda blurry. That pic was w iPhone close up shot w flash. The iPad just doesn't do anything justice I need go buy a good ass camera so I can put up some bud porn like the rest of the fellas on here. Def makes a fckin huge diff even between iPad and iPhone is crazy. I need get a nice digital one I can link to my photo album and upload some of them for everyone.

That was end of bloom those were taken right before I chopped em down as u can see they aren't in the room anymore. I'll have get up pics soon as I can. I got whole plant shots top to bottom and those ones were actually lollipopped I literally just had like 6-8 cola tops growing that were long as an arm.. Some weighed almost 2 ounces dry they 1/2 lbs per plant. I only did 4 per light in 10 gallon air pots on that run. No trellis just tomatoe stakes and twist ties. They were just way to big those stretch a lot since they are Sativas grow very lanky. I had to take lights off hangers and screw em into ceilings thru the reflectors (hung piece of plywood to ceiling screwed into them it was a fckin nightmare) basically ruined them. But they were 5 1/2 feet tall indoors which is pretty fckin big in a basement lol.

I vegged way too long 7 weeks had wait for another run to finish n they were over 3 ft once I got em into bloom. I won't do that again though i like running 6 per light in 5-7 gallon a lot better. I try to hit 5-6 ounces per plant on average and I'm happy w that. If I can get 2.25 lbs per light that what I aim for. If I get 2 lbs per light that's also cool w me. Kyle was hitting almost 3 lbs a light he said w that pheno which was his original strawberry. His new shit isn't as good.

If u know him or what happened to him. He got raided few years back and literally the Feds took all of his shit. Ur talking decades of mastering that variety gone in a few hours. They took all his plants, cuts and buckets of seeds.

He then went back to his buddies he had given cuts too and unfortunately they aren't as good as he is and the variety had been diminished thru years of cuts and crosses and he was never able to get that shit back. He admits that openly. But his new one he says is still very good he's won many awards and cups w that strawberry strain but the original one which was that cut right there which I also lost now was the fckin best man it really hurt when I lost that variety.

 

[pk_boosted2]

To be 100% honest and answer a msg I got ill put on here. AN GIVES U THE BEST * YIELDS. Now if u wanna talk quality Bio Canna and Botanicare Pure Blend Pro give me the best quality. However BPB yields are diminished but the quality primarily the color, frostiness and especially the smells are the best. It's really awesome shit and it's cheap and easy as hell to use. All around a great nutrient line hands down one of my favorites.

Even when I do canna or AN grows I always use Botanicare for veg no matter what. Not only to cut costs down but bcuz I think it provides better roots and it's simple. BPB grow, cal mag, silica and roots excel for all veg. Than bloom I switch to whatever nutrients that imma use that run. No problems whatsoever I do it every time been running like this for years.

Only thing I add to get yield back as much as possible is to add Atari bloombastic to the Botanicare flower lineup starting week 5 thru last week. Produces rock hard compact flowers and literally u can see a 2nd wave of flowering growth after initial bulking period stops. Awesome shit. That I find to me in my experience gives u an edge on just regular lineup they offer and is only thing missing they don't have. Use that and roots excellurator and ur golden. Also nice cuz it's primarily all organic and super clean. Hard to burn any plants and no deficiencies.

I got a guy at shop who does runs w only the bases, liquid karma and calmag and gets really good results. He don't get the yields bcuz he doesn't use all shit he needs but the shit comes out damn good just give idea how well IMO their nutrients are very underrated all around. I think they are one of the best out there and def best for the price hands down.

 

[pk_boosted2]

It means denser buds, which you admittedly have a problem with and are blaming sativas as a whole for it. And it absolutely means better quality if you know what your doing. Last time I checked denser buds are more desirable than airy. Definitely better resin production as well.

He only grows foxtail airy buds so don't even bother, to him that's fire with his dyna gro lol.

He is the best grower on here *chuckle whateve he says is the divine word. Lol

 

[st0wandgrow]

I got way better pot shots than that I need to get my cloud backed onto my new iPad ill post soon as possible.
My mac book in the apple shop gettin new battery and update hopefully have it this weekend I hope!!

It just not as good quality on pics bcuz the iPad doesn't have a flash and it's hard hold it steady an they came out kinda blurry. That pic was w iPhone close up shot w flash. The iPad just doesn't do anything justice I need go buy a good ass camera so I can put up some bud porn like the rest of the fellas on here. Def makes a fckin huge diff even between iPad and iPhone is crazy. I need get a nice digital one I can link to my photo album and upload some of them for everyone.

That was end of bloom those were taken right before I chopped em down as u can see they aren't in the room anymore. I'll have get up pics soon as I can. I got whole plant shots top to bottom and those ones were actually lollipopped I literally just had like 6-8 cola tops growing that were long as an arm.. Some weighed almost 2 ounces dry they 1/2 lbs per plant. I only did 4 per light in 10 gallon air pots on that run. No trellis just tomatoe stakes and twist ties. They were just way to big those stretch a lot since they are Sativas grow very lanky. I had to take lights off hangers and screw em into ceilings thru the reflectors (hung piece of plywood to ceiling screwed into them it was a fckin nightmare) basically ruined them. But they were 5 1/2 feet tall indoors which is pretty fckin big in a basement lol.

I vegged way too long 7 weeks had wait for another run to finish n they were over 3 ft once I got em into bloom. I won't do that again though i like running 6 per light in 5-7 gallon a lot better. I try to hit 5-6 ounces per plant on average and I'm happy w that. If I can get 2.25 lbs per light that what I aim for. If I get 2 lbs per light that's also cool w me. Kyle was hitting almost 3 lbs a light he said w that pheno which was his original strawberry. His new shit isn't as good.

If u know him or what happened to him. He got raided few years back and literally the Feds took all of his shit. Ur talking decades of mastering that variety gone in a few hours. They took all his plants, cuts and buckets of seeds.

He then went back to his buddies he had given cuts too and unfortunately they aren't as good as he is and the variety had been diminished thru years of cuts and crosses and he was never able to get that shit back. He admits that openly. But his new one he says is still very good he's won many awards and cups w that strawberry strain but the original one which was that cut right there which I also lost now was the fckin best man it really hurt when I lost that variety.

Dude!! I almost feel bad calling you out, but c'mon man...

That's not Srawberry Cough, and in fact that's not your picture, or your plant. That's MY picture, and MY plant which was a strain called Grape Fat Cheese. Ive posted pics of it several times on here. Here's a few more pics I snapped of it....



If you're going to lift pics from the Internet and pretend that they're yours, you might want to make sure that the person that actually grew the plant, and took the pic isn't participating in that thread. SMH

 

[a mongo frog]

Dude!! I almost feel bad calling you out, but c'mon man...

That's not Srawberry Cough, and in fact that's not your picture, or your plant. That's MY picture, and MY plant which was a strain called Grape Fat Cheese. Ive posted pics of it several times on here. Here's a few more pics I snapped of it....

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If you're going to lift pics from the Internet and pretend that they're yours, you might want to make sure that the person that actually grew the plant, and took the pic isn't participating in that thread. SMH

Yea, you know that is a good point...

 

[pk_boosted2]

Go read his DG vs AN thread that shud tell u more about it him. Guy blamed nutrients on deficiencies lol. Maybe it's called unfamiliar grower and user error. I think anyone who reads it can figure that out easily.

He also has a thread trying to get 1 GPW which he still hasn't obtained he proly still getting 0.5 GPW and thinks it's great lol. People are out there hitting 3 lbs a light now days with premium nutrients.

Dude!! I almost feel bad calling you out, but c'mon man...

That's not Srawberry Cough, and in fact that's not your picture, or your plant. That's MY picture, and MY plant which was a strain called Grape Fat Cheese. Ive posted pics of it several times on here. Here's a few more pics I snapped of it....

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If you're going to lift pics from the Internet and pretend that they're yours, you might want to make sure that the person that actually grew the plant, and took the pic isn't participating in that thread. SMH

Um okay. Yah those r ur pics lol. I'm not even gonna comment on that bcuz that's just ridiculous. BOL buddy

 

[TheChemist77]

Yeah,,I caught that too....."foxtailing like crazy" and yours look better because of your camera.....Say, what brand and model camera is that? Others may want to improve their buds by camera too.

Well, he does use Botanicare's Ca/Mg.....lol.

u only need cal mag if your nutrient doesnt have it,,,sooo,, what does that say??? ive never needed cal mag with maxi..

 

[pk_boosted2]

Ok. I have multiple pics of my plants I will upload once I get my MacBook back and we can go back n forth and post pictures of the plants ur telling me that I took from you, than u can explain away at whose they are.

 

[st0wandgrow]

Um okay. Yah those r ur pics lol. I'm not even gonna comment on that bcuz that's just ridiculous. BOL buddy

Are you claiming that those aren't my pictures? Surely you can prove this to me then.

IMO you have two options here. Either man up and admit that you are using some one else's pic and claiming its your own. Or, you can tuck your tail and leave, and then create a sock puppet account in a couple days and try this over again.

There's another pic or three that I didn't post that I'd be thrilled to see you produce.... seeing as how these aren't my pics of my plant.

 

[TheChemist77]

1: WRONG! That does not cause foxtailing

2: It IS a genetic trait being expressed with his strain in that picture that is causing the foxtailing.......Hell man, I have several strain pheno's that express foxtailing as a trait! Just look at my Avatar,,,,,,That's one there. That is a pheno of Pineapple Express I got out of G13 beans and I simply love it! Totally different plant structure then the predominate pheno of P.E. and it foxtails like mad! No temp or nutrient difference!

i have a critical mass that has 13 fingered leaves,, 9 regular and 4 that are on top coming out the point were all fingers come together,,genetic,,but really cool to look at.. it had regular sets then at the 8th node up the leaves are deformed fan leaves..i cloned her,, i wonder if the clones will display this?? im putting these 4 leaves in a book to keep,,so cool..ive never seen this, buds coming out of the leaf ive seen but never fingers ontop of fingers,,i got to get a pic of it..
grow well my friend!

 

[pk_boosted2]

Are you claiming that those aren't my pictures? Surely you can prove this to me then.

IMO you have two options here. Either man up and admit that you are using some one else's pic and claiming its your own. Or, you can tuck your tail and leave, and then create a sock puppet account in a couple days and try this over again.

There's another pic or three that I didn't post that I'd be thrilled to see you produce.... seeing as how these aren't my pics of my plant.

I also have plenty of pictures of this run in my library start to finish. Your gonna tell me that they aren't mine? It's not possible anyone else can use tomato cages to grow plants in that can look similar?

Soon as I get my computer back I will post them for anyone to look at and make an opinion on. Those are my plants.
I ain't a thief I don't need to steal pics from anyone my work speaks for itself. So idk where u wanna go with this but lemme know I can prove it myself as well.