First serious grow! LEC 315 in a 4x4 tent (Philips elite agro CMH)

[borbor]

hahaha, I FORGOT to check on the plants before work, which is amazing considering the fact that I think about them about once every 15 seconds minimum. came home and wow! they're huge! they were also pretty thirsty.


wishing I named this thread "first grow! lec 315, starbud, and others..."

Starbud is kicking ass! the only issue I'm having with her is trying to keep the canopy even. there's at least 8 tops all demanding attention, after the stretch the lower half of the plant is gonna be a menagerie! Midnight kush is also going at a good rate. She was pretty damn tall, so a couple of nights ago I tied her down, she bounced back up immediately, so last night (about 24 hrs before picture was taken) I tied her down again, possibly too far, but she is bouncing back, just a little slowly. Brazil amazonia has surprised me in the last week, really starting to take off, made me glad I tied her down before, I did it again last night in the opposite direction (C shaped main stem) and she's bounced back. lots of side branching on her. fool's gold is blowing up! bigger than querkle and brazil, which both had a 10 day head start. Afghan kush is starting to speed up, Burmese kush is still pretty slow, I wonder if that's because she hasn't been transplanted. querkle is growing, but hasn't shown me much more as far as sex.
I dunno how to feel about the blue kush auto. The way it leans over it's like the main stem is growing from the very side of the pot, so it's shading a lot of midnight kush. I worry that the plant may be stressed by that, and the thought of autoflower hermie pollen floating around my tent really GRINDS MY GEARS. However, it's getting stinky and crystally

How much longer would you guys say I got on that autoflower? I've looked and can't even find anything from dinafem about flowering time, I just emailed them about it, but don't expect much applicable info from them.

wednesday is day 50, if my lights aren't here by then, we're goin' 12/12 anyway

 

[Mohican]

Looking awesome Borbor!

 

[GroErr]

Looking good in there! Don't know much about autos but it looks like another 3-4 at least weeks based on the bud development. One thing you'll need to watch for with these lights is they mature fast in the first 3 weeks of 12/12, and typically they finish anywhere from 3-6 days faster than my LED's.

 

[borbor]

Hopefully the fedex gods are pleased with my work and tomorrow I get my height extension and leds, don't have a great feeling about the leds though, the website still says "expected wait time 3/20/2014." Somehow I suspect that I'm going to have to flip to 12/12 on wednesday without them.

 

[GroErr]

Hopefully the fedex gods are pleased with my work and tomorrow I get my height extension and leds, don't have a great feeling about the leds though, the website still says "expected wait time 3/20/2014." Somehow I suspect that I'm going to have to flip to 12/12 on wednesday without them.

You're good to flip this week if it doesn't arrive, they wont start any significant stretch for 4-6 days after you flip and the extension should have arrived before that. Cheers.

 

[borbor]

word, I probably would have flipped yesterday, but I'd really like to wait just so I can say they were officially flowered the whole time under the a51/lec combo. I think today I might switch out the bulbs for the flowering bulb though.

found some cool info last night on uk420.com, dinafem's representative there says the blue kush auto is a new release for 2015, the freebies sent out with the attitude christmas promo are the first ones, which makes me feel special I'm guessing though that that's often the case with freebies. I really wish she didn't get blown over, I think she'd be doing a lot better if she had stayed straight up.

guess I oughta take these on a walk, maybe when I get back I'll have some LEDs

this is worse than the wait for my attitude order

 

[borbor]

lights just came on, opened the tent and saw this on the blue kush auto-

calcium def?

 

[GroErr]

lights just came on, opened the tent and saw this on the blue kush auto-

calcium def?

Looks like you could use some cal-mag, start of something there. You've got some tip burn, might want to back off a bit, want them as healthy as possible before flipping them.

 

[borbor]

cool, I was thinking that strongly enough earlier that I did water her with some general organics CaMg+ in the mix, still had nutes though, 1 teaspoon of the cal mag in a gallon of distilled water with the regular dose of canna nutrients today. Usually I've been using tap water I let sit out as long as possible (usually 48 hrs+), they just drank faster than I had containers for this week.

that pic was pretty much just of the autoflower, have you seen any tip burn or any problems in the other pics of the photos?

I'll put a new round of pics up, this might be a two part or three part update for the picture limit. I'm gonna flip to 12/12 in less than 48 hours, so this could pretty much be the state of the veg tent. before flower. I just watered most of them with no nutes but with the camg+, I figure if the auto has a deficiency then these might pull more calcium once they flower and all become deficient, so better to anticipate that problem, right? I probably should have waited to water until after I posted this to make sure. Hope I'm right!


Afghan Kush- day 37 from seed- Just noticed the touch of the claw,I'll make sure to get right on that-

Fool's Gold- day 37 from seed- Not sure about what you'd find in a 10 pack of seeds, but this pheno is quick!-

Brazil Amazonia- day 48 from seed- Pray for the beautiful sativa! I don't pay as much attention to her as I should, since she's always hiding behind starbud, but she's really exploded.

Starbud- day 48 from seed- I never shut up about her. definitely playing favorites

 

[borbor]

Midnight Kush- day 48 from seed- also a big fat leafy plant, I'm glad I tied her down last week.

Burmese Kush- day 37 from seed- still in a 2 gallon pot, gonna have to be the runt, still looks okay to me though. Sorry the second pic is blurry

Querkle- day 48 from seed- Yup, that's totes a dude. sucks Guess I'll put it toward compost tomorrow.


A group shot with the other camera, and a crappy pic of the buds on the autoflower.

the back left corner is querkle and burmese kush
the middle row is midnight kush, brazil amazonia, and fool's gold
front row is the autoflower, starbud, and afghan kush

While I was taking the photos I rotated the auto to have it lean against the wall a bit instead of shading a lot of midnight kush, that shouldn't be a problem right?



edit-man I'm really 50/50 on this autoflower, I hope she does okay and also hope if she doesn't that I see it and protect the real important plants in the garden from the auto I didn't care too much about. in the first place. The other plants ought to be able to hold themselves together in flower I think, bigger stems, more leaves, more established

edit again, just tied the autoflower high up with a support in the dirt instead of to the pot

 

[GroErr]

I get the odd pheno that likes a bit extra cal-mag, have one of my PPP x BB crosses right now that got some defs about 4 weeks out of the soil from seed. Some extra cal-mag and it straightened out, now it's fine.

No problem moving the plants around, I do that all the time to get the best light spread.

 

[Mohican]

I give cal-mag with every watering. They never seem to mind. I went one season without it and had very sad plants.

I added epsom salts to my dirt in the garden where the Mulanje crosses are growing and a week later they turned dark green!



Bottom right - see how much darker they are then the others?!

Cheers,
Mo

 

[borbor]

got the height extension today! definitely enough vertical space now!

 

[GroErr]

Nice, bring on the stretch

 

[borbor]

haha yeah! my tent is 7'7" now!

I've made it this far holding off on the flowering trigger, I'm gonna flip tomorrow when I get home from work, that way I make it an even 50 day veg. Also, the estimated delivery time from the tracking number for the LEDs is on thursday, but as of 7:00 PM tonight they were a six hour drive away, so I have a good feeling about tomorrow. If they don't show tomorrow no problem, it'll be the last veg day and I'll have a 12 hour shift to keep me occupied.
I had one of my friends that grows over to help me with the height extension. Glad I did, I would have had a hell of a time alone! Since he doesn't drive and I live on the other side of town, I usually go to his place to hang out, so it was also the first time he'd seen my plants in person. I feel like he was pretty impressed, he was definitely pretty fascinated with the autoflower, said it looked really good to him. Neither of us have ever seen an auto before so it's pretty cool for both of us. He grows with a 600 watt air cooled hps in a 4x8 tent, he definitely doesn't use all of the tent though, obviously. it's just convenient for him to be able to actually get in the tent and walk around. I gotta say that's really nice too.

 

[borbor]

LED's are here! hung one over the left side, gotta go to the hydro store tomorrow to get more rope ratchets, then I'll put the other up!
the lights are gonna go off 3 hours earlier tonight, and come on 3 hours later tomorrow

 

[GroErr]

LED's are here! hung one over the left side, gotta go to the hydro store tomorrow to get more rope ratchets, then I'll put the other up!
the lights are gonna go off 3 hours earlier tonight, and come on 3 hours later tomorrow

That mix of spectrum is going to rock in flowering, can't wait to see them go

 

[borbor]

yeah, when I did my cfl "grow" years ago I remember learning about light and spectrum and being fascinated. I started that seed with a 100w incandescent! great stuff to learn about. My dad was an astrophysicist so I had a headstart and prior disposition.

I think it's gonna be awesome for flower as well! hopefully I can convert some friends to this new tech!

Damn they're growing! I'd do more LST but the flower starts now!
group shot 2 hours before their first 12 hours of dark.

dunnno why querkle is alive, I guess tomorrow I'll compost him

Pics of day 1 flower tomorrow
also, these two lights are 22-24" above the canopy, I've got a few days before I gotta move them again

 

[GroErr]

yeah, when I did my cfl "grow" years ago I remember learning about light and spectrum and being fascinated. I started that seed with a 100w incandescent! great stuff to learn about. My dad was an astrophysicist so I had a headstart and prior disposition.

I think it's gonna be awesome for flower as well! hopefully I can convert some friends to this new tech!

Damn they're growing! I'd do more LST but the flower starts now!
group shot 2 hours before their first 12 hours of dark.

dunnno why querkle is alive, I guess tomorrow I'll compost him

Pics of day 1 flower tomorrow
also, these two lights are 22-24" above the canopy, I've got a few days before I gotta move them again

CLF's and incandescent lights - lol Hey that was the tech but laughable now in comparison to the lights you have going this round

Oh you'll have to move them for sure. Going into 12/12 I typically set the lights at around 26-28" above the canopy and let them stretch into it, rarely end up having to move them again, may have to move the Blue Dream lights up if they stretch any more than 2" more but I think they're done and sitting at 20"-22" right now.

 

[borbor]

CLF's and incandescent lights - lol Hey that was the tech but laughable now in comparison to the lights you have going this round

Oh you'll have to move them for sure. Going into 12/12 I typically set the lights at around 26-28" above the canopy and let them stretch into it, rarely end up having to move them again, may have to move the Blue Dream lights up if they stretch any more than 2" more but I think they're done and sitting at 20"-22" right now.

oh yeah? my working plan was to raise it every couple of days so it was pretty much always around 20", would it be better just to set it high and let them grow up?