Crazy Fruits 14/15 grow

ruby fruit

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I can remember growing one seed fresh outdoor and without bullshitting you it was s perfect speciman at about only 5 foot but as wide as 8 ft...then it went to seed as i didnt know much at the time about telling the diference between fem and males cos i was so young and stoner dumbed out.
He was the brains i was just the offsider at the time.
I remember him saying to me at the time to watch this town go nuts over these new seeds he got from amsterdam.
 

ruby fruit

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do you remember what pollinated it ?
No idea mate i was to young to take much notice...with the exp i have now it didnt look like a male in veg ...but i didnt have any other plants around at the time but i also used to get outdoor of a guy two houses away when i was out so maybe pollen from him ?either way i trashed it before the seeds were mature but i still have a dozen of those original seeds from the NL...if be happy to send them to someone if they could germinate them after all this time ive tried with 2 and it failed so didnt want to waste any more
 

ruby fruit

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Ya no more screwing around! To many big dogs to try and keep up with. I know I only need a certain amount but it's just so fun to go a little bigger. Also you never know what can happen the next season so it doesn't hurt to have a little extra.
And this is why im locking away a few oz not to open for 9 months depending on next yrs grow succeeding ;)
 

BcDigger

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My in-laws have been making donations to use for supplies, so lots of my extra has gone to them. Saves them a ton of money and hassle, and keeps my costs down to zero. Just time and sweat, but I enjoy every minute until harvest time
 

redeyedfrog

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Any seeds i found amongst the buds while trimming i pulled.out on rare occasions ...at one stage while myself and friend were trimming couple lb we found maybe 14 seeds.
I told @Mohican i had them but apart from trying to germ two ofvthem i havnt tried since.
If i knew what i knew now about looking after seeds i might have stored them more wisely....ill dig them out when im back home and post a pic tomorrow of them....
I store mine in a bag in a box and In the fridge.
 

redeyedfrog

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@TWS when I was in alaska in 93 working on the pipelines I ran across what a friend of mine called matanuska thunderfuck, never heard of it or seen it since. Was amongst the best I smoked, does that strain still exist? Or is there a strain related?
 
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BcDigger

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@TWS when I was in alaska in 93 working on the pipelines I ran across what a friend of mine called matanuska thunderfuck, never heard of it or seen it since. Was amongst the best I smoked, does that strain still exist? Or is there a strain related?
Yeah ive deffinitely heard of Alaska Thunderfuck. not sure if amyone carries it?
what did you do on the pipelines?
 

TWS

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@TWS when I was in alaska in 93 working on the pipelines I ran across what a friend of mine called matanuska thunderfuck, never heard of it or seen it since. Was amongst the best I smoked, does that strain still exist? Or is there a strain related?
http://en.seedfinder.eu/strain-info/Matanuska_Thunderfuck/Unknown_or_Legendary/
Unknown or Legendary - Matanuska Thunderfuck
Matanuska Thunder Fuck refers to any good cannabis coming out of the Matanuska Valley in Alaska since the early 70s. If you research the history of Palmer, you will find that it was/is a government agriculture experimental station. The original families who moved here for this experiment had children in Palmer around the 40's & 50's that were influenced by the hippie movement and the influx of their kind to the Matanuska-Susitna Valley around the beginning of the 70's. With the knowledge those children gained, while working with their parents on their family farms growing up, and from the projects they were involved in at the experimental station as college students, and from a few new found hippy friends from the west coast of the US, they began flower-forcing by blacking out greenhouses during the summer. None made clones. They did remove males, and they knew how to prepare the cannabis for market. So with that, people in Alaska started to see some green bud as opposed to imported bud, and it was all coming out of the valley.

By the 80's, only a few of those people remained. Some were busted. Others moved on. Those that remained began taking clones and growing indoors. One of those men, Larry, met my father and taught him the techniques that some still use to this day here in the valley. Unfortunately, both Larry and my father are dead and the valley is full of greedy people, so the story of a strain named MTF just isn't true. Most people who say that they have smoked it give inconsistent descriptions for flavor and effect. Most of the cannabis in the valley is grown from seeds bought from mainstream seed banks/breeders.

Matanuska Thunder Fuck Myths:
To start, I have more than 20 years of experience with cannabis, beginning with guidance from my father. I feel sure that there are few people who know as much about MTF as I do. My family has lived in the Matanuska Valley/Palmer since 1940, well before Alaska was even a state.

MYTHS:
* There is/was a strain named MTF/Matanuska Thunder Fuck- Any PREMIUM cannabis from the valley is called MTF.
* Cannabis finishes flowering outdoors in the valley- Unless cannabis is auto-flowering it will grow large because of the long, bright days during summer, but it will never reach maturity before the cold and rain kill it. Light deprivation is the way to go.
* This so-called strain named MTF needs a frost before harvest to yield maximum resin- Most cannabis is severely damaged if it does survive a frost. NOT RECOMMENDED!
* This so-called strain named MTF is native to Alaska- NO cannabis is native to Alaska, or even the Americas. Try the Asian continent.
* There are only mainstream strains in Alaska- If you know someone who's been growing in the valley since cloning caught on in the early 80's, you could possibly come across some of the old school clones, but I'd say it's improbable. Most don't even know where the clones that they get originated from. Of people making seeds, few really understand the science behind it, and the seed stock really doesn't compare to anything available on the world market. Although the work of quite a few commercial breeders is nothing to write home about, the few who do possess the knowledge won't reveal themselves or their methods for fear of loosing decades of hard work. And yes, they do possess genetic stock outside the world seed market. They're still hoping things will change and one day they will step up.
* Cannabis is now only allowed for registered patients in Alaska- You can legally posses up to 28.35 grams in the PRIVACY of your home. Growing up to 24 plants is a misdemeanor. Although, according to one attorney he personally keeps up to four ounces (113.4 grams). Privacy, meaning no one can see it from a window or doorway outside your house.
* Law enforcement in the valley can get warrants based on odors or abnormally high electric bills- They must be able to show probable cause that you are selling/distributing, cultivating(cannabis), or that you possess more than is allowed for personal use.

I think the lesson to take away from this is, what is being done in places like Amsterdam, Spain, UK, California, and Canada can be done anywhere on this planet. It has been done on ships in international waters, a shopping mall in Florida, even Antarctica. So, wherever you're at, you can grow MTF quality cannabis. Just remember, the more you educate yourself on the subject, ie., lab work, experiment, and cultivate, the more likely you will grow true THUNDER FUCK!

Disclaimer: In no way is this to be construed to be an advocation to break the law. I am not a lawyer, and in no way should you consider this legal advice. This is my view and I encourage you to discover truth for yourself.

Addition (from a medical grower/researcher (Ph.D.)): A medical clone called "Matanuska Valley Thunder Fuck" (or MVTF) ended up in Oregon. It is said to be a cross between "golf bud" and the "original" Matanuska Thunderfuck, both created in Alaska. The flavor is a pungent orange-citrus and is unmistakable--the aroma, once burnt, will fill a room. The clone also went by the name "Tange" (short for Tangerine). It is a prolific producer of high quality flowers and is the earliest flowering outdoor plant I have ever grown.

It begins flowering by July 5th at 45 degrees N and finishes the first weeks of September. One of the single-best medical clones to grow outdoors--period. This particular clone is now available in several California dispensaries as well.

The Matanuska Valley is well known for its exceptional ability to grow vegetables. MTF is not so much a strain. It refers to virtually any marijuana grown in the Matanuska Valley. The Matanuska valley is a location that has an optimal growing season and extremely fertile soil. Consequently, seeds bought from the mainstream seed banks/breeders tend to grow to their optimal potential in the valley. Most old timers, like my old boss who lived there, grew and kept most of their yield for family and friends. The winter is long up here. I am always skeptical when I hear people talking about actually having some "MTF" in the lower 48.
 
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