Islam can dish it out, but can't take it

Doer

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Setting the pilot on fire was unquestionably to deter other pilots dropping bombs on their families. It worked.
So, I guess you could not be more wrong? How does that feel? A bit wimpy of you? Do you really think any real Men and real Women, CAN be deterred by something like this?

The Japanese tried it wholesale in China, as did the Soviets and the Nazi in their Spheres. It doesn't work. It is a General's sick wet dream to turn his machine against the defenseless for terror, but it really is just for thrills. It is a Leader's decent into madness. Caligula was murdered by his own Guards for this.

The entire world punishes it ruthlessly, if provoked and we will, you'll see.
 

nontheist

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Don't like Muslim and don't like Christians but most of all I don't want a 20+ religious war campaign. If you think it's your obligation to kill a radical with a different sky daddy please strap on your bible and head that direction nothing would make me happier.
 

Doer

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Don't like Muslim and don't like Christians but most of all I don't want a 20+ religious war campaign. If you think it's your obligation to kill a radical with a different sky daddy please strap on your bible and head that direction nothing would make me happier.
I feel ya, bro. And if we didn't have modern tech we would not even know about it. It is probably better to know, because if you don't:

Then maybe, one nice morning......what is all that dust, on the dawn horizon? What are those Green Banners, coming at us, with the sun in our eyes? What are they shouting? Alllaaaakk..wah?

Yeah, it happens....this week in fact. And they did know it was coming. And they are Muslims, just not Sunni Crazy. They probably thought they were safe. But, Chop chop. Damn extremists.

It isn't about religion. This is like the ancient Church of Rome, deciding that 9/10s of its own members worldwide should be burned at the Stake. OK? Just how does that work, exactly? It takes power, like....Inquisition, or Sharia Court. Madness, not Religion.

Will someone tell me where the heart of Islam is? Never mind.




So, let's not get mixed up here about the problem set. Let's stick with the old Church of Rome for a minute. Now, we know, that was a war cult, that said the Jews murdered God on Earth. (don't humans seem stupid?)

And it put out Missions of Jesuits and Dominicans etc. And it got pretty ugly at times. No Doubt. And there is no way anyone could call the Old Popish Faith a Plural Religion. Nor could you leave it without being killed. If you were excommunicated, you were as good as hog food, no more.

It was spread by the sword and Jews were taxed for protection, same as Islam. But, like the opposite of this modern Islam situation, not many Protestants, at first, right? The keepers of Real Islam are very pissed off about 9/10s of the flock being Moderate and embracing Secular govt and the Decadent West, etc.

So, not a tiny splinter of new thinking like Protestants were, it is most of Muslims that are appalled by the tiny Center. But, here is the point. The center of Islam is the Wasab Sect in Mecca. They look out at this world and see most of their Billion strong Sunni, have lost touch with what they think is True Islam. Well, guess what? It is True Islam, but, now it is a small but vicious Priesthood. Yet, Sunni Islam is what Mecca says it is.

Of course, the Church was not Plural until much blood was shed, and finally we have some measure of peace, still shaky, in a few places, between Protestants and Catholics.

There was, previously, no such thing as Catholics either, see? It was the Church of Christ's Vicar on Earth the Holy Roman See, anointed as our Humble Pope. (not humble) against tiny bands of thinkers under Luther, or Calvin, Lasky or Knox. Get it? Now Wasab is a tiny band that thinks it can still call the shots. And it has been doing a pretty good job of annoying the entire Planet for the last 1000+ years.

So? Who gets the Brand of Islam? That is what's at stake. Who claims the Legacy of the Religion of Islam, if it slips from the Wasab? Who gets to claim what is Sunni Muslim, if not Mecca? How can Sunni split the Baby and still be Sunni and still be Islam, with Mecca, but Plural and Peaceful? Or what is it without Mecca? That is the conflict, as I see it.

Basically, Obama is openly trying to steal the brand name from the honchos in Mecca.

Bold stuff. Thanks Obama.

"Remember what dormouse said. Keep your head. Keep your head." Grace Slick.
 
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UncleBuck

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So tired if they keep it up that the card will have lost its value when it really matters. Common sense in many countries in Europe, but unfortunately not until after left made some extreme right parties and politicians popular.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Cried_Wolf

It's basic ethics really (or in this case a lack thereof), choosing a mean between excess and deficiency in actions and emotions.
your idea is to ban islam and forcefully re-educate muslim kids.

that's not common sense, that's called hitler.
 

OddBall1st

Well-Known Member
I feel ya, bro. And if we didn't have modern tech we would not even know about it. It is probably better to know, because if you don't:

Then maybe, one nice morning......what is all that dust, on the dawn horizon? What are those
Green Banners, coming at us, with the sun in our eyes? What are they shouting? Alllaaaakk..wah?

Yeah, it happens....this week in fact. And they did know it was coming. And they are Muslims, just not Sunni Crazy. They probably thought they were safe. But, Chop chop. Damn extremists.

It isn't about religion. This is like the ancient Church of Rome, deciding that 9/10s of its own members worldwide should be burned at the Stake. OK? Just how does that work, exactly?
It takes power, like....Inquisition, or Sharia Court. Madness, not Religion.

Will someone tell me where the heart of Islam is? Never mind.




So, let's not get mixed up here about the problem set. Let's stick with the old Church of Rome
for a minute. Now, we know, that was a war cult, that said the Jews murdered God on Earth. (don't humans seem stupid?)

And it put out Missions of Jesuits and Dominicans etc. And it got pretty ugly at times. No Doubt. And there is no way anyone could call the Old Popish Faith a Plural Religion. Nor could you leave it without being killed. If you were excommunicated, you were as good as hog food, no more.

It was spread by the sword and Jews were taxed for protection, same as Islam. But, like the opposite of this modern Islam situation, not many Protestants, at first, right? The keepers of Real Islam are very pissed off about 9/10s of the flock being Moderate and embracing Secular govt and the Decadent West, etc.

So, not a tiny splinter of new thinking like Protestants were, it is most of Muslims that are are appalled by the tiny Center. But, here is the point. The center of Islam is the Wasab Sect in Mecca. They look out at this world and see most of their Billion strong Sunni, have lost touch with what they think is True Islam. Well, guess what? It is True Islam, but, now it is a small but vicious Priesthood. Yet, Sunni Islam is what Mecca says it is.

Of course, the Church was not Plural until much blood was shed, and finally we have some measure of peace, still shaky, in a few places, between Protestants and Catholics.

There were no such thing as Catholics either, see? It was the Church of Christ's Vicar on Earth the Holy Roman See, anointed as our Humble Pope. (not humble) against tiny bands of thinkers under Luther, or Calvin, Lasky or Knox. Get it? Now Wasab is a tiny band that thinks it can still call the shots. And it has been doing a pretty good job of annoying the entire Planet for the last 1000+ years.

So? Who gets the Brand of Islam? That what's at stake. Who claims the Legacy of the Religion of Islam, if it slips from the Wasab? Who gets to claim what is Sunni Muslim, if not Mecca. How can Sunni split the Baby and still be Sunni and still be Islam, with Mecca, but Plural and Peaceful? Or what is it without Mecca? That is the conflict, as I see it.

Basically, Obama is opening trying to steal the brand name from the honchos in Mecca.

Bold stuff. Thanks Obama.

"Keep your head. Keep your head." Grace Slick.

People wised up and left Europe and that part of the world. That part of the world followed, war after war, we ended up with what we have today, The United States of America.

The people that found what is now Boston, said to that part of the world that followed, no fuck`n way, and they won that war. Then as it grew, those same people saw themselves going back to that part of the worlds ways. and said, you know what, no fucking way. and they won that war too. Then they had to fight that part of the world, twice to survive, they won those wars too.

segue to today, Despite problems within our Government, in the USA killing in the name of religion is not allowed nor can it ever be justified here. Guess what?, that part of the world is up to it again, and wants to spread it here and today The USA is badass enough to again say, no fucking way.

Obama wont be with those that say ....no fucking way. He`d a done it by now. He`s going to let it form in his term and hand it off to someone else so he can live after without guilt. By then, they will have killed many, many more in the name of religion while he watches. Like he just said....hey, they aren`t the only one`s that have done it. What he should have said was,.....no fucking way.

But he`s from Chicago,.....not Boston. That last guy to run against his term was. We saw what he had to do to stop that from happening, right after the first debate when the guy from the Boston area wrecked his punk Chicago ass.
 

Doer

Well-Known Member
All true except the scorn.

You simply describe the system. Presidents come and go. WE make them leave.
 

Doer

Well-Known Member
Don't like Muslim and don't like Christians but most of all I don't want a 20+ religious war campaign. If you think it's your obligation to kill a radical with a different sky daddy please strap on your bible and head that direction nothing would make me happier.
The point is they, the Wasab, think their skydaddy is gunning for the USA. It is not that Christians want to fight Islam. It is not that anyone hates all Islam, or hates all Muslims or even lets hate into their lives. Maybe they smoke pot and don't feel hate?

Maybe most Muslims want to just live in Peace. I believe that is a normal emotion.

A dog is rabid, then Londonfog thinks we hate all dogs. We don't even hate the rabid dog. He is hateful? Sure. Probably self hate.
 

schuylaar

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The point is they, the Wasab, think their skydaddy is gunning for the USA. It is not that Christians want to fight Islam. It is not that anyone hates all Islam, or hates all Muslims or even lets hate into their lives. Maybe they smoke pot and don't feel hate?

Maybe most Muslims want to just live in Peace. I believe that is a normal emotion.

A dog is rabid, then Londonfog thinks we hate all dogs. We don't even hate the rabid dog. He is hateful? Sure. Probably self hate.
"you know it's not us, right?"
-schuylaar's muslim friend
 

OddBall1st

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your idea is to ban nazis and forcefully re-educate germans.

that's not common sense, that's called america.

Nazis, like the Muslims, want to claim superior beings and rule to world, they both are not afraid to say it and have. I`m from Boston and you know what I say ?....No fucking way. If you support them, you get crushed too. You need to be more badass to change that.
 

ethabhae

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actually it was not meant as an insult. He is from Turkey so I'm sure he speaks more than one language. English not being his first. I was just curious
i want to learn arabic for understanding Quran, translations not enough for me. i speak only Turkish and English for now.
 

ginwilly

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The point is they, the Wasab, think their skydaddy is gunning for the USA. It is not that Christians want to fight Islam. It is not that anyone hates all Islam, or hates all Muslims or even lets hate into their lives. Maybe they smoke pot and don't feel hate?

Maybe most Muslims want to just live in Peace. I believe that is a normal emotion.

A dog is rabid, then Londonfog thinks we hate all dogs. We don't even hate the rabid dog. He is hateful? Sure. Probably self hate.
If you are going to say anything about IS, first you have to qualify your statement with "I'm not talking about the peace loving Muslims, for which there are many, who are doing great things and are surely against IS", followed by pointing out something horrific Christians did over a century ago (without the need to qualify that statement that it wasn't ALL Christians and many were peace loving).

Get with the PC program man. sorry... BIGOT!!
 
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