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TonightYou said:
Are you familiar with torrents? If not I can give you an easy primer and open a whole world of software/media to you. I am a digital pirate! I do have some links and will vet them before forwarding to you. Just let me know if you are familiar with torrents if not I can setup an easy download link for you off one of my servers
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Man I kill the torrents. Get all my movies and music this way. One day the Feds are gonna knock on my door for all the music and movies I have lol
 
TonightYou said:
I just get letters I ignore lol. Then I got a VPN out of the country and no longer have to worry or deal with such things.
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Surprisingly I haven't got any of those yet but I also get a lot of mixtapes too so that maybe why lol oh well I don't care fareal. May have to holler at you about the VPN thing. I need one
 
akhiymjames said:
Surprisingly I haven't got any of those yet but I also get a lot of mixtapes too so that maybe why lol oh well I don't care fareal. May have to holler at you about the VPN thing. I need one
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Feel free to my friend. It can be setup at the network level or on an individual machine. I'd be happy to walk you through it.
 
TonightYou said:
Feel free to my friend. It can be setup at the network level or on an individual machine. I'd be happy to walk you through it.
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TOR is all I know really. I am a littlenwary of torrents tbh, my computer got Ebola from downloading a few times in the past and I don't mind paying for good software, I usually need the support crew soon enough anyhow. Also intellectual property is my game so I make a point of paying because I make a point of charging its just right.
 
Mad Hamish said:
TOR is all I know really. I am a littlenwary of torrents tbh, my computer got Ebola from downloading a few times in the past and I don't mind paying for good software, I usually need the support crew soon enough anyhow. Also intellectual property is my game so I make a point of paying because I make a point of charging its just right.
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Well I can grab a couple copies of software and make sure they are clean. I've been pirating for, oh usenet days.

I feel ya on paying but I only mention it as I don't know if the software will work well or if you want to test it. Like I said, hit me up if you are interested. I can host it for you and make it as easy as possible to install.

I know people who have hand issues, arthritis, tendinitis and the like that use some software. So if it can save you from some pain, I don't mind lending a hand. You can always purchase it if it works for you.

Eta: haven't had a virus in years. Only time I've gotten Malware or a virus is if I self inflict a virtual machine to see it'd behavior. Doing IT work on the side makes me interested in how these things work.
 
Diamonds and Dust are in the GP. I am waiting honestly to see my first order in my hands before i go gangbustas with the mindscape and now D/D.....i cant stop planning, i love the pregrow routine.
D/D seem like Christmas with every grow, thats excitement, for me.
 
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TonightYou said:
Well I can grab a couple copies of software and make sure they are clean. I've been pirating for, oh usenet days.

I feel ya on paying but I only mention it as I don't know if the software will work well or if you want to test it. Like I said, hit me up if you are interested. I can host it for you and make it as easy as possible to install.

I know people who have hand issues, arthritis, tendinitis and the like that use some software. So if it can save you from some pain, I don't mind lending a hand. You can always purchase it if it works for you.

Eta: haven't had a virus in years. Only time I've gotten Malware or a virus is if I self inflict a virtual machine to see it'd behavior. Doing IT work on the side makes me interested in how these things work.
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I have been too busy trying to subvert computers to making strange noises to learn how they actually work lol. Wrote my first electronic music on Atari when I was but a seedling.
 
Flaming Pie said:
My guess is h202
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I wanted to help so I went down to check what is on the bottle but it doesn't mention ingredients, on their website under the MSDS of florakleen it says this about what it is made of

Ingredients: Flora Kleen® Cleaning Flush Solution is a specially formulated mixture of chemicals
that are mixed in proportions to assure adequate removal of nutrient residues. The chemical
identity of the compounds and exact proportions used in the mixture are a trade secret.

SOURCE:
http://generalhydroponics.com/site/gh/docs/prod_msds/Flora_Kleen.pdf
 

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Yodaweed said:
I wanted to help so I went down to check what is on the bottle but it doesn't mention ingredients, on their website under the MSDS of florakleen it says this about what it is made of

Ingredients: Flora Kleen® Cleaning Flush Solution is a specially formulated mixture of chemicals
that are mixed in proportions to assure adequate removal of nutrient residues. The chemical
identity of the compounds and exact proportions used in the mixture are a trade secret.

SOURCE:
http://generalhydroponics.com/site/gh/docs/prod_msds/Flora_Kleen.pdf
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Here is a non secret from the organic posse: If you have lactic acid bacteria present in your soil flushing is an absolute non issue. The need to flush is a total myth along with NPK ratios and other post wwII agricultural technology that was designed specifically to reduce stores of explosives (made from N P and you guessed it K). You don't need to flush, what you need is to stop using chemical salts in the first place. The salts are the problem not the flush...
 
Mad Hamish said:
Here is a non secret from the organic posse: If you have lactic acid bacteria present in your soil flushing is an absolute non issue. The need to flush is a total myth along with NPK ratios and other post wwII agricultural technology that was designed specifically to reduce stores of explosives (made from N P and you guessed it K). You don't need to flush, what you need is to stop using chemical salts in the first place. The salts are the problem not the flush...
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Couldn't have said it better. I say if your in soil synthetics is a no no but there are a few things I know a few good soil growers use that are synthetic but it may be a small add nothing major. Synthetics are for hydro. Only time I use them in straight perlite. Florakleen is not needed
 
genuity said:
Saponin is what's in bush doctor(sledgehammer) nutrient rinse
It works in DWC & soil....


Saponin is what is in most nutrient rinses..
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I did some research on Saponins after your post. Early findings already point to the fact that saponins add a bitter taste to plant material to the point grazing animals will not eat fodder, and that they are toxic to cold blooded animals and fish. I have found zero evidence supporting their role in immobilising nutrients or removing salts from plant tissue. Dig further I will, but it looks like snake oil so far Gen.
 
Mad Hamish said:
I did some research on Saponins after your post. Early findings already point to the fact that saponins add a bitter taste to plant material to the point grazing animals will not eat fodder, and that they are toxic to cold blooded animals and fish. I have found zero evidence supporting their role in immobilising nutrients or removing salts from plant tissue. Dig further I will, but it looks like snake oil so far Gen.
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Most all plants have this already inside....keep digging,I'm sure you will find some good and bad information....it for sure not snake oil,it's used everyday,by most everyone.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0045653502003211
 
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OK, so we had some debate on the small yielding forum x chem king cross I did. Smallest pheno was trimmed and weighs a tad over 2 zips. IMO that is very respectable for a cookie cross. Nugs are so hard and dense you could throw one through a window. Wife: "first cookie plant that actually tastes like a COOKIE". I can post pics of the trimmed/dried later.

To be honest I absolutely love it. The chem leaner in the 10 gallon pot looks on track for about 5-6 zips and smells like chemmy chemmy cookies.

SO I'm gonna tell M4K that I really like it but it's not a monster yielder (he will probably say...uh....no shit it's cookie.lol)

Then I will let him decide what he wants to do with it. They could strangely end up as a limited strain on NGR. :)
 
Mad Hamish said:
Here is a non secret from the organic posse: If you have lactic acid bacteria present in your soil flushing is an absolute non issue. The need to flush is a total myth along with NPK ratios and other post wwII agricultural technology that was designed specifically to reduce stores of explosives (made from N P and you guessed it K). You don't need to flush, what you need is to stop using chemical salts in the first place. The salts are the problem not the flush...
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I use coco-coir drain to waste hydroponics so flushing is needed in my setup, I have tested both flushed and non-flushed in the coco and the non-flushed is too harsh for me. I can care less if you flush or not and I don't want to argue with you so please keep your opinion to yourself , thank you.
 
Yodaweed said:
I use coco-coir drain to waste hydroponics so flushing is needed in my setup, I have tested both flushed and non-flushed in the coco and the non-flushed is too harsh for me. I can care less if you flush or not and I don't want to argue with you so please keep your opinion to yourself , thank you.
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It's "I couldn't care less".

And not to rehash a dead topic, flushing has no positive effect on the end product.

While I disagree with Mad on using chemical fertilizer. I do agree organic is better as long as it's done ethically, and locally.

mr mustache said:
OK, so we had some debate on the small yielding forum x chem king cross I did. Smallest pheno was trimmed and weighs a tad over 2 zips. IMO that is very respectable for a cookie cross. Nugs are so hard and dense you could throw one through a window. Wife: "first cookie plant that actually tastes like a COOKIE". I can post pics of the trimmed/dried later.

To be honest I absolutely love it. The chem leaner in the 10 gallon pot looks on track for about 5-6 zips and smells like chemmy chemmy cookies.

SO I'm gonna tell M4K that I really like it but it's not a monster yielder (he will probably say...uh....no shit it's cookie.lol)

Then I will let him decide what he wants to do with it. They could strangely end up as a limited strain on NGR. :)
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Isn't it weird when first impressions change? Happens to me too, sometimes you have to judge it a second time around with considerations in mind. Sounds like a good plant, but I'm use to lower yielding plants.
 
TonightYou said:
It's "I couldn't care less".

And not to rehash a dead topic, flushing has no positive effect on the end product.

While I disagree with Mad on using chemical fertilizer. I do agree organic is better as long as it's done ethically, and locally.



Isn't it weird when first impressions change? Happens to me too, sometimes you have to judge it a second time around with considerations in mind. Sounds like a good plant, but I'm use to lower yielding plants.
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Funny everyone was gettin all uppity about the yield...... But every one of these blew bodhi TER away by a MILE. Those were tiny tiny yielders.
 
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