Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

SouthernSoil*

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Running cool tubes ATM, several per tent with reflectors removed. I don't like these square hoods I can shove a lot more tubes into a lot less space. I view a 'lamp' as a setup with a 600HPS and 400MH in close overlap. So i work exclusovely with teamed ballasts;)
Sounds like you got all of those very well tweaked in bro ! ;) by close overlap do you mean something like this bro

Respect :leaf::leaf::leaf:
 

Mad Hamish

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That's a really Rad DIY idea there I cannot imagine a cheaper way to build a dual hood. I try keep each globe far enough away from each other to not raise temps in one little spot otherwise I would go back to 1000w ballasts. MUCH easier controlling two six hondos than a 1000 far as hot spots go
 

SouthernSoil*

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That's a really Rad DIY idea there I cannot imagine a cheaper way to build a dual hood. I try keep each globe far enough away from each other to not raise temps in one little spot otherwise I would go back to 1000w ballasts. MUCH easier controlling two six hondos than a 1000 far as hot spots go
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I see what you've done there, thats beast bro ! you got that light spectrum in the sweet sweet sweet spot ! : ) And look at those beauties, i can just imagine close ups of them, frosty frosty ! : ) Awe bro, much much respect.
 

st0wandgrow

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That's a really Rad DIY idea there I cannot imagine a cheaper way to build a dual hood. I try keep each globe far enough away from each other to not raise temps in one little spot otherwise I would go back to 1000w ballasts. MUCH easier controlling two six hondos than a 1000 far as hot spots go
Tis true.... those 1000 watters can really damage a plant if the bulb is too close. I have 3x 1000 watts in my flower room which could create some problems for me but I have them all on light rails. They constantly move back and forth over head about 18"-24". Just enough to avoid any hot spots and spreads out my footprint a smidge too. Works like a charm.
 

SouthernSoil*

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Shit, so i was taking a look with a magnifying glass & some of the lower leaves of my ladies have some thrips infestation, I immediately sprayed some garlic & canola oil onto the bottom sides of the leaves & then later on before lights off i sprayed some lacto b.

Mad Hamish bro, you suggested ludwigs insect spray+ bro i should just pop in the morning and go buy a bottle, if im correct it contains garlic oil, canola oil & pyrethrins right ? I have some fresh chillies in the garden i could brew and spray aswell but shit i need to kill these fuckers.
 

st0wandgrow

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Shit, so i was taking a look with a magnifying glass & some of the lower leaves of my ladies have some thrips infestation, I immediately sprayed some garlic & canola oil onto the bottom sides of the leaves & then later on before lights off i sprayed some lacto b.

Mad Hamish bro, you suggested ludwigs insect spray+ bro i should just pop in the morning and go buy a bottle, if im correct it contains garlic oil, canola oil & pyrethrins right ? I have some fresh chillies in the garden i could brew and spray aswell but shit i need to kill these fuckers.
Make sure to spray the surface of the soil too. Those little effers like to hang out there as well
 

SouthernSoil*

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Make sure to spray the surface of the soil too. Those little effers like to hang out there as well
Will do bro, so then do you suggest i use the pyrethrins? Should i bust out a chilli spray now while lights are on and then get some of the pyrethrin spray in the morning ? I also saw some type of white bugger climbing up the main branch. Shit i need to drench these ladies in some organic insect murdering juice asap
 

st0wandgrow

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Will do bro, so then do you suggest i use the pyrethrins? Should i bust out a chilli spray now while lights are on and then get some of the pyrethrin spray in the morning ? I also saw some type of white bugger climbing up the main branch. Shit i need to drench these ladies in some organic insect murdering juice asap
I only use Azamax and/or essential oils (rosemary, tea tree oil) so I wouldn't be the one to ask about pyrethrins.
 

greenghost420

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been adding bout 4oz per gal of coconut water and they fucking love it! this stardawg was chopped early and is fucking dank and the bubble hash is the same. sadly i didnt have a control to compare but i cut at bout the same time last chop and this time there was more resin for sure. next test is to see how the microbe life samples do.

anyone run microbe life products?
 

Pattahabi

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Shit, so i was taking a look with a magnifying glass & some of the lower leaves of my ladies have some thrips infestation, I immediately sprayed some garlic & canola oil onto the bottom sides of the leaves & then later on before lights off i sprayed some lacto b.

Mad Hamish bro, you suggested ludwigs insect spray+ bro i should just pop in the morning and go buy a bottle, if im correct it contains garlic oil, canola oil & pyrethrins right ? I have some fresh chillies in the garden i could brew and spray aswell but shit i need to kill these fuckers.
Spinosad. Spray at lights out. Do not spray the soil.

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Pattahabi

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Why not? Is there something in spinosad that you don't want coming in contact with the soil?
Spinosad can hurt beneficial insects as well.

Effects of spinosad on earthworms and soil microorganisms have been investigated in the laboratory. Results indicated that appli- cation rates of 25-150 g/ha should not cause significant effect on soil microflora respiration. Earthworms were not very susceptible to spinosad (LD50 > 970 mg/kg, Jachetta 2001). There is little research on the impact of spinosad on insect soil detritivores and their predators, including ants and springtails. However, since some spinosad products are targeted against fire ants, a soil dwelling species, it is likely that there would be some impact against other soil fauna.

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a senile fungus

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@st0wandgrow

I have a mixture of DE, gypsum, oyster shell meal and dolomite lime. I wanna say 1 part of all and maybe two parts of DE.

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It's all mixed up and I was just gonna top dress with it.

I wanted to top dress some cal and mag type stuff, and also preventative measures against flyers.

Think it'll do? Just throw it up on the soil and water in? Unfortunately I'm out of EWC and my parents compost pile is frozen solid.

Thanks.

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foreverflyhi

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@st0wandgrow

I have a mixture of DE, gypsum, oyster shell meal and dolomite lime. I wanna say 1 part of all and maybe two parts of DE.

View attachment 3328399

It's all mixed up and I was just gonna top dress with it.

I wanted to top dress some cal and mag type stuff, and also preventative measures against flyers.

Think it'll do? Just throw it up on the soil and water in? Unfortunately I'm out of EWC and my parents compost pile is frozen solid.

Thanks.

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IvI've always wondered about compost piles in freezing conditions , guess the thermal heating isn't enough to keep it going?

Is the pile maintained?

I once took tempature reading in my compost pile in a super cold morning and it was about 90degrees, still cookin

Here in southern cali it doesn't really get too cold (unless your in straight desert climate or high up in the mountains)
 
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a senile fungus

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IvI've always wondered about compost piles in freezing conditions , guess the thermal heating isn't enough to keep it going?

Is the pile maintained?

Its a huge pile of shavings and manure from my parents farm. The horses are feed our own quality hay and eat really good food too. The pile just keeps being added on to and pushed back. So I supposed its not maintained, or maintained in a rugged way. The compost is at the back side, the shavings and manure on the front side. Big pile in the trees. Probably 8 or 9ft high, 40ft wide and 20ft deep.

I'm sure the inside of the pile is warm enough, but I went out there with a hand shovel and it broke off in the ice. With the tractor I could get into it, in fact, that's what I'll do tomorrow!

Most winters that I remember the pile is throwing off heat but the last couple days have been pretty cold and windy.

Hope that helps to answer your question!
 

Mad Hamish

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I only use Azamax and/or essential oils (rosemary, tea tree oil) so I wouldn't be the one to ask about pyrethrins.
Our equal to Azamax is called Effect Eco Insect Control and I am with StOw here it is fantastic.
No problem bro, thank you anyway !
StOws advice for Spinosad is solid bud. The ecomimsect spray mixes well with ludwigs or the Margaret Roberts, I mix it with the latter to make a spinosad based ludwigs type spray. It is your better option in flower although both are excellent. What makes ludwigs special is it is not a synthetic pyrethrin like the others, those are systemic and bad news. Spinosad is a totally organic by product of bacterial metabolic activity. It is beyond safe for you as a human.
Spinosad. Spray at lights out. Do not spray the soil.

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I disagree in a South African garden. Right now we have averages of 80RH and regular temps above 100. It is bug paradise. Spraying the soil is essential, best to turn to our arsenal of probiotics to do our best to rectify the situation. Our composts are not clean so our soils never are. How can I put this... it is Africa.
 

st0wandgrow

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@st0wandgrow

I have a mixture of DE, gypsum, oyster shell meal and dolomite lime. I wanna say 1 part of all and maybe two parts of DE.

View attachment 3328399

It's all mixed up and I was just gonna top dress with it.

I wanted to top dress some cal and mag type stuff, and also preventative measures against flyers.

Think it'll do? Just throw it up on the soil and water in? Unfortunately I'm out of EWC and my parents compost pile is frozen solid.

Thanks.

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Do you have a mulch or some fresh soil to lay down over top of that?

As for the DE, I haven't had much luck using it as a pest deterrent. It really cakes up when it gets wet, and it tends to fly all over the place while you water. IMO innoculating your soil with BTI bits and laying out some sticky traps is a more effective way of dealing with gnats.
 
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