Capitalism loses

Which economic policy for the 21st century will win out

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Jimdamick

Jimdamick

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The King of Capitalism, namely the USA, has fallen from the world's largest economy to the 2nd largest, bowing to the Chinese Communists. I find that extremely ironic seeing as it was corporate America's pursuit of profit and happy stockholders, joined by the frugal consumer and their love of Wal-Mart that made this event possible. Nah, not possible, but a fucking certainty. So, now what? Is the market economy a joke now that the Chinese are the big boy on the block, providing most of the shit we buy, but no jobs. You see, in my opinion capitalism sucks in a global economy, where you can manufacture in China a product for a nickel, have it shipped in a few days, and sell it at Home Depot for $50. Problem with that is there are no jobs left here. Adios motherfucker!
So now that we know that capitalism in a pure form won't fly for the MAJORITY in this country, what do we do now? Become a Communist? What I see coming in this country is form of socialism, because a new day is dawning and this ain't your grandpappy's economy anymore. The American worker will not be able to keep up in the 21st century without some sort of aid, because our schools blow and college costs a fortune thanks to greed. Our medical is OK if you can afford it (if you can't, you are dead). So, how the fuck did it happen? You tell me. Personally I think man is just too greedy for capitalism, and there are just too many thieves for it to work effectively. It seems that Karl Marx had it right when he said capitalism would self destruct. Smart guy.
 
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ChesusRice

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Jimdamick said:
The King of Capitalism, namely the USA, has fallen from the world's largest economy to the 2nd largest, bowing to the Chinese Communists. I find that extremely ironic seeing as it was corporate America's pursuit of profit and happy stockholders, joined by the frugal consumer and their love of Wal-Mart that made this event possible. Nah, not possible, but a fucking certainty. So, now what? Is the market economy a joke now that the Chinese are the big boy on the block, providing most of the shit we buy, but no jobs. You see, in my opinion capitalism sucks in a global economy, where you can manufacture in China a product for a nickel, have it shipped in a few days, and sell it at Home Depot for $50. Problem with that is there are no jobs left here. Adios motherfucker!
So now that we know that capitalism in a pure form won't fly for the MAJORITY in this country, what do we do now? Become a Communist? What I see coming in this country is form of socialism, because a new day is dawning and this ain't your grandpappy's economy anymore. The American worker will not be able to keep up in the 21st century without some sort of aid, because our schools blow and college costs a fortune thanks to greed. Our medical is OK if you can afford it (if you can't, you are dead). So, how the fuck did it happen? You tell me. Personally I think man is just too greedy for capitalism, and there are just too many thieves for it to work effectively. It seems that Karl Marx had it right when he said capitalism would self destruct. Smart guy.
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China isn't communist.
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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ChesusRice said:
They say they are
How come there are millionaires and billionaires in a communist country?
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because Communism is just the lie socialist revolutionaries use in their fairy tales to get support and convince schmoes to hurl their bodies at the barricades.

Marxism is a Bait N Switch, which promises a Worker's Paradise, and only delivers feudalism with different titles.

it's easy to become rich as a motherfucker when you are one of the political elite who hold an entire people in chains for your personal profit.

if you had read Marx you would know that Authoritarian Socialism is a necessary step on the road to Utopia, and a casual perusal of history demonstrates that Authoritarian Socialism is also the last step the apparatchiks are willing to take, since it puts them in the Dictator's Throne.
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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Padawanbater2 said:
You haven't read Marx
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so youre saying im wrong?

Marx didnt argue that the Authoritarian Socialist Dictatorship was essential after the revolution to De-Radicalize the revolutionaries and prevent Counter Revolutions?

are you suggesting that the Dictatorship of the Proletariat (actually dictatorship by the self appointed Vanguard of intellectuals) wasnt key to Marx's vision of the marxist Revolution/Evolution?

by claiming i havent read Marx you can imply all that shit, without actually backing it up, since anyone who has read Marx (like myself) can assure you that it is in fact exactly as i said.

Take a stand Toby.

did Marx include Authoritarian Socialism as a necessary step or not?
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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Dr Kynes said:
so youre saying im wrong?

Marx didnt argue that the Authoritarian Socialist Dictatorship was essential after the revolution to De-Radicalize the revolutionaries and prevent Counter Revolutions?

are you suggesting that the Dictatorship of the Proletariat (actually dictatorship by the self appointed Vanguard of intellectuals) wasnt key to Marx's vision of the marxist Revolution/Evolution?

by claiming i havent read Marx you can imply all that shit, without actually backing it up, since anyone who has read Marx (like myself) can assure you that it is in fact exactly as i said.

Take a stand Toby.

did Marx include Authoritarian Socialism as a necessary step or not?
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I'm saying you've never read Marx, and you know it

You've probably read snippets (see 'quote mined') of his work on right wing political blogs that oppose improving economic conditions for the middle and lower classes and just regurgitate it on social media and forums like RIU

Same thing with Darwin, Chomsky, Nietzsche, Dawkins, Harris, Feinman, etc.

It's clear to people who have actually read these things your opposition to the work is nothing more than soundbite talking points reiterated by neoconservatives that never actually delves into the substance of thought the works detail
 
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