Has anyone used a AIT Air Injection Technology "The Spider" Airstone?

[Cold$moke]

Like I said no science to back it
also I never have specifically tested it
I always had my room exchange every 5 min non stop except at dark time which I exchange the air 2to4 times depending on temps so ive always had fresh air in my rooms
edit I also am going to get a few of these spiders they look sweet

 

[thump easy]

I'll have to get a o2 water meter some time. Are those expensive? I try to have at least 2watts per gallon of water for my dwc, I run 41w for 6 3 gallon buckets that hold 2.5 gallons of water. Not sure of the o2 in the water though, I'd like to know what it is.

235 with discount

 

[thump easy]

But don't let me knock it I never tried it it might be the greatest thing ever?
Just a lil testing with meter and amount of oxygen in room would be a great selling point.. For even the advanced people.

 

[Cold$moke]

I never cared enogh to test to be honest

I just figured when is stagnant air good? I dont think ever so I rolled with it
I can guarantee it doesnt hurt a thing

 

[Tone5500]

I have a small 7 watt pump running to 15 gallon dwc totes with two of the cheapest air stones available and haven't had a issue

 

[kushlatte]

More air, more root, more fruit. I added an extra 2x4" cylinder airstone into both my 5 gallon RDWC buckets for a total of two in each and I left one of the plants with just the one to see how it did. Needless to say. the plants with 2 airstones in the res look bigger, fatter, healthier, and node spacing is shorter even. It seems like more air only comes with more benefits. It's why aero gets more yield than hydro because of the constant air saturation to the roots.

Also, I watched the video of the spider airstone with the airpump on high and I am not impressed. I get more bubble coverage with 2 airstones in each corner, and better bubbles too

 

[AlphaPhase]

Yeah, the video looked OK, they work better in person though with the proper wpg, I don't think he was using a very good pump in the video. They get my dwc res rolling like crazy I've used pretty much every airstone shape and size and different pumps and come to the conclusion that most small air pumps just don't have the push so I switched to commercial pumps. The big cylinder stones are the next best I've found, the flat round ones are OK, any other stone sucks and breaks too easy, I broke 4 of them just washing them in the sink in the last month so I wanted something durable. Those air stones just weren't cutting it for me but glad they work for you, if it ain't broke don't fix it is my motto

 

[waterdawg]

I agree that fresh air is a good thing if not running a sealed room but, and I may be wrong, but I think the biggest benefit is to replenish the CO2 that the plants have used up. It is also necessary to have lots if DO in the res water as well, my first DWC turned into soup lol.

 

[Cold$moke]

Agree but all my rooms are sealed except at the damper wich aint much at all

I seal my rooms
so I control the air humidtiy and so on
and the biggest issue I seal my rooms to get the bedt results in odor control

when I do get into co2 my rooms will always be able to run without it
just my 2

 

[waterdawg]

I run aroe right?? Well I have tried all kinds of air stones the best one I got was made of lead Lolz you couldn't tell on monster dot com but to really know how much oxygen is in you water is to use a dissolved oxygen meter I used diffrent stones n got the same reading the only time I got a better reading is when I brought fresh air from outside not stail air. And when I used real oxygen tank air changed the fitting for the co2 controler and used any air stone temp of water also changed my reading.. Good luck.also metal in water changes the amount of metal apart from your nutrients that already have heavy metal partials that come up in a testing just my 2 cents

You actually use an oxygen tank in your room? And you use a air stone made from lead? I'm not a hundred percent sure but both if those things, IMO, are not things that you would want to use. The oxygen tank is a big bomb waiting to go off and the lead, well its lead lol.

 

[Cold$moke]

So is your water pressure tank if the valve fails lol

im not defending it but I too have been reading about o2 injection to the root zones ofr plant in sealed high co2 enviroments

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[waterdawg]

So is your water pressure tank if the valve fails lol

im not defending it but I too have been reading about o2 injection to the root zones ofr plant in sealed high co2 enviroments

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Ummm say what!!! My pressure tank is not made of lead lol. What century was your plumbing installed in lol. Your, and let me stress this, not supposed to use lead man.

 

[AlphaPhase]

Lol, amen waterdawg, lead is baddddddddd news

 

[Cold$moke]

Ummm say what!!! My pressure tank is not made of lead lol. What century was your plumbing installed in lol. Your, and let me stress this, not supposed to use lead man.

Who said any thing about lead never mind you didnt get it

if your not "safe" then dont try it
Plenty of welding shops have no problems with o2 bottles inside is all I mean

lol lead wtf

 

[Cold$moke]

The mere fact that you would say pressure tank made out of lead showz you know nothing of plumbing lol sorry your lead comment

 

[AlphaPhase]

I'm confused lol, I swear I read something about lead, I don't think any one said a pressure tank made out of lead, maybe it was lead airstones? I can't remember I'll have to reread

 

[waterdawg]

Ok so perhaps I was a tad high when i was here last!!! Sorry for the confusion! But pressure tanks typically dont have relief valves that would be hot water tanks lol. Anyhoo did you not say your lead airstone was the best you ever had?

 

[AlphaPhase]

So I'm back to update on the AIT spiders. They work so freakin good.. BUT.. My roots completely engulfed the airstone and I can not untangle them and it has drastically lessened the air bubbles from the massive thick root mass. Guess this is the only flaw I can think of. The roots get THICK and grow FAST. And there is not a way to glue the stone to the bottom. If there was a way to not have the roots grow around the spider they would be A+, until I figure a way that this doesn't happen I'm giving it a B. I threw a regular 5" round disc stone in there with it to get some more bubbles.

 

[Cold$moke]

Ok so perhaps I was a tad high when i was here last!!! Sorry for the confusion! But pressure tanks typically dont have relief valves that would be hot water tanks lol. Anyhoo did you not say your lead airstone was the best you ever had?

As to the pressure tank they have a check valve im preeety sure that stops the tank from becoming too full that way there is no over pressure danger

also if I did say lead it was prolly just a typo bro

I hate lead nasty stuff

edit im also usualy a tad high so yea coulda been me lol some times I type too fast on this phone lol

 

[Cold$moke]

@AlphaPhase
but for sheer air distribution would you say the ait is the winner

cause im thinkin they would be the shit in the main res where not too many roots wander in my setup