Uncle Ben's Topping Technique to Get 2 or 4 Main Colas

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Thanks for sharing keebo3000 and very cool that you would make a video (although I didn't watch it all, am short on monthly allocation of provider bandwidth).

BTW, who's that fine singer? Wow.
 
jacksthc said:
you can call it what you like, mutts, sativa dominant, sativa hybrids who cares, there only 2 plants grown inside under light ( sativa or indica and its called Hybrid when you mix some sativa and indica together
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Appreciate the schooling LOL.

Here's an indica mutt I used as a parent. Internodes about 1/2", leaves as big as dinner plates, wide over lapping leaves, stout trunk/stems. Think short.

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And this would be a sativa. Leggy, narrow leaves, long internodes, thin (and weak) stems/trunk. Think "tall".

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Uncle Ben said:
Appreciate the schooling LOL.

Here's an indica mutt I used as a parent. Internodes about 1/2", leaves as big as dinner plates, wide over lapping leaves, stout trunk/stems. Think short.

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And this would be a sativa. Leggy, narrow leaves, long internodes, thin (and weak) stems/trunk. Think "tall".

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great pics

In the past when I said about remove a few leaves it was to give a plant that was strong like an indica mutt but a deeper canopy like the sativa plant with thicker stems, somwhere in the middle, you do it by hand or grow a 50% hybrid indica/sativa to give better yeilds and larger canopy

its all about getting the canopy shape just right

It good you have an open mind and share a lot of good knowledge with members on here :)
 
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jacksthc said:
its all about getting the canopy shape just right
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There is a big difference between training via pruning and pruning because of some misguided forum paradigm. 99% of folks who defoliate don't know what they're doing. I have literally pruned and trained thousands of landscape, fruit trees, grapevines, cannabis....you name it. I understand the future outcome before i make a cut. I can visualize what that tree will look like 10 years from now based on my actions now and can visualize what cannabis will look like when I harvest.

Bottom line - this is not hearsay, it's science and any time you remove a productive leaf which won't be replaced in part or more in the near future, you've stunted the plant and reduced yields.
 
Chargermane said:
Question...do I keep giving it same amount of nutes or do I cut back?
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For starts, I'm not sure what you did and what's left. The color purple is not my favorite color for making a clear decision.

2 - you fertilize based on plant bulk. You have little left which means the plant does not want or need much food now. Don't push your plants with nutes. Let them grow at their own pace.
 
Uncle Ben said:
For starts, I'm not sure what you did and what's left. The color purple is not my favorite color for making a clear decision.

2 - you fertilize based on plant bulk. You have little left which means the plant does not want or need much food now. Don't push your plants with nutes. Let them grow at their own pace.
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Sorry. It's lights off right now but when they come back on i'll turn it off and take a picture without the LED so it's more clear. I just cut above the second node.

Ok so my plant was at 500 PPM so I'll dilute it back into the 200's or 300's. I just thought 2 things: one, that if you drop the PPM's a crazy amount like that it'd stress the plant out. Two, you give nutes based on root mass.
 
Uncle Ben said:
There is a big difference between training via pruning and pruning because of some misguided forum paradigm. 99% of folks who defoliate don't know what they're doing. I have literally pruned and trained thousands of landscape, fruit trees, grapevines, cannabis....you name it. I understand the future outcome before i make a cut. I can visualize what that tree will look like 10 years from now based on my actions now and can visualize what cannabis will look like when I harvest.

Bottom line - this is not hearsay, it's science and any time you remove a productive leaf which won't be replaced in part or more in the near future, you've stunted the plant and reduced yields.
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I would say its more like 99.9% of folks who defoliate don't know what they're doing and I too understand the future outcome before i make a cut or defoliate a single leaf on my plant, (well get it right 80% of the time lol)

just like knowing when to top a plant and where, often I find cutting a plant back a few a times in veg will help to keep the shorts, strong and the canopy level ( remove a productive leaf and top part of the plant will always stunt the plant but with a little more veg time, you can pull a larger yield as the canopy should be more level in flower)

have you ever tried cutting all the top fan leaves in half when you turn the plants over to flower ?

the all the lower nodes grow quick and the node space is very close at the top of the plant

and as the top shoots don't stretch they become thicker and can support bigger bud growth, a lot of lower side shoots become even with the top shoots
the buds grow a little odd in shape in mid flower, but by the end of flower, all the small buds form one large cola :)

as you understand the future outcome before u make the cut, you can see this working really well

you will need a little longer in veg, but indoors under light, the top part of the canopy is where you get most your good quality bud
 
Chargermane said:
Don't scare me now people lol. I cut it right above the second node! My plant was at 6 nodes and it was super bushy...very tight nodes.. maybe that's why it looks like it was massacred.

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its all good, as it grows, tie the shoots down so it looks like an x shape and keep them all the same height if you can

you will have 4 top shoots before you know it :)
 
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