alternative to AN nutrients & GH

Liam420

Liam420

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Hi guys

basically i was wondering whats a good alternative to Advance nutrients and GH products


Iv read ssooo much stufff on nutrients , about AN / GH , bio bizz

basically im wondering whats a really good alternative to some good nutrients, im using jungle juice at the moment but am defiantly interested in using some other stuff especially if it will be cheaper

the whole AN line up is expensive, im having great results but cant hurt to experiment

i was looking too add :

big bud
bud candy
over drive
final phase to my jungle juice, but there has to other stuff out there , for cheaper

any advice on nutrients would awesome!
 
mnixon

mnixon

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I am using AN now myself but before I was using Technaflora Recipe for Success Starter Kit with good results.
 
Liam420

Liam420

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mnixon said:
I am using AN now myself but before I was using Technaflora Recipe for Success Starter Kit with good results.
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i have just the jungle juice with GH rapid start , what exactly are you using from AN ?

thanks for the reply
 
mnixon

mnixon

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Liam420 said:
i have just the jungle juice with GH rapid start , what exactly are you using from AN ?

thanks for the reply
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My current line up connoisseur A and B, Voodoo Juice, Rhino skin, bud factor x, Big bud, Bud Candy. I am trying bud blood and carbo load out right now also. I also use hygrozyme
 
Liam420

Liam420

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mnixon said:
My current line up connoisseur A and B, Voodoo Juice, Rhino skin, bud factor x, Big bud, Bud Candy. I am trying bud blood and carbo load out right now also. I also use hygrozyme
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seems like a lot to use, but as im reading seems like i should be adding more then just the jungle juice 3 prt,

but maybe i should jsut spend the money and grab some extra stuff from AN

voodoo jucie seems a bit expensive , is it worth the extra money ? all the ones r reasonably priced
 
mnixon

mnixon

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Liam420 said:
seems like a lot to use, but as im reading seems like i should be adding more then just the jungle juice 3 prt,

but maybe i should jsut spend the money and grab some extra stuff from AN

voodoo jucie seems a bit expensive , is it worth the extra money ? all the ones r reasonably priced
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yeah I went in 50/50 with a friend
 
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blackstoneinstitute

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In my opinion most of the hydro nutes are just about the same as far as end results. Pick a reputable line and get the basics. Concentrate on YOUR growing techniques. All of the lines will grow great plants it's just you sticking to one and learning how to use it in your system/environment. All of those additives are not needed and may cause harm in the wrong hands. Start slow with just a bloom booster.

I use GH flora but just the micro and bloom at 5/10ml per gallon (modified lucas formula) all grow long. My additives are cal/mg, liquid koolbloom and dry koolbloom during flower. In truth I'm not even sure the koolblooms do much of anything but I bought them so I am using them.

Pick a 2 or 3 part nute line that fits your grow system and price you want to pay. Most importantly dial in the environmental conditions. Most additives are used to try and correct poor growing conditions. Yeah I know it's boring but sometimes the most basic recipe and paying attention yields the best results.
 
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jbizness

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Instead of voodoo juice go to ogbiowar.com and look at the root pack its killing any root booster on the market. bud factor x is bullshit its basically aspirin and water. I would pick up some nirvana from AN its thhe best additive in my opinion. bud candy is also redundant start brewing teas with molasses and that ogbiowar i suggested and i can guarantee u will have much healthier plants. So keep the jungle and conni get some molasses earth worm castings and that ogbiowar get nirvana and sea green ull have the best results uve seen ever.
 
Izoc666

Izoc666

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Liam420, you need to learn about plant's need to grow proper.

Before you start to read the label back on the bottles. You have to look for complete nutrition. Because AN is overpriced and prey on the newbies, they only sell each bottle of each minerals, which it's rip off.

Check this out

What Mineral Elements Do Plants Need?
There are 20 mineral elements essential for plant growth.
Carbon (C), hydrogen (H), and oxygen (O) are supplied by air and water.
The six macronutrients are required by plants in large amounts and include
  • nitrogen (N)
  • phosphorus (P)
  • potassium (K)
  • calcium (Ca)
  • magnesium (Mg)
  • and sulfur (S),
The rest of the elements are required in trace amounts (micronutrients). Essential trace elements include
  • boron (B)
  • chlorine (Cl)
  • copper (Cu)
  • iron (Fe)
  • manganese (Mn)
  • sodium (Na)
  • zinc (Zn)
  • molybdenum (Mo)
  • and nickel (Ni).
Studies have also shown that a number of other mineral elements are beneficial to the growth of plants and are required for some plants. Beneficial mineral elements include silicon (Si) and cobalt (Co).
While the beneficial elements are known to be essential to some plants, they are not deemed to be essential for all plants. The distinction between beneficial and essential is often difficult in the case of some trace elements. Cobalt for instance is essential for nitrogen fixation in legumes. It may also inhibit ethylene formation and extend the life of cut roses.
Silicon, deposited in cell walls, has been found to improve heat and drought tolerance and increase resistance to insects and fungal infections. Silicon, acting as a beneficial element, can help compensate for toxic levels of manganese, iron, phosphorus and aluminum as well as zinc deficiency.
A more holistic approach to plant nutrition would not be limited to nutrients essential to survival but would include mineral elements at levels beneficial for optimum growth. With developments in analytical chemistry and the ability to eliminate contaminants in nutrient cultures, the list of essential elements will most likely increase in the future.

That's what you need to look for.

Dyna Gro product is extremely good for cheap price, quart of DG is about twenty dollars. It's complete nutrition on just one bottle. One thing that don't have is silicon (Si), which is Pro Tekt. Then you will be golden !

If you decide to purchase this DG products, go easy on this one because it's very strong concentrate and if its too much it will burn your plant.

Good luck with your choice, sir.
 
AlphaPhase

AlphaPhase

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I've used technaflora with great success in hydro. Its pretty cheap, has micro, grow and bloom as well as other additives if you want to use them, and it works well.
 
Aeroknow

Aeroknow

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3-part nutes like GH's flora series(including rip-offs)work killer all by itself. You have everything your plants need in the 3-parts.
IMO, "flower enhancers" like big bud or liquid koolbloom are a joke! I do like PK boosting in the end, if done rite. If using flora series, no need for powder koolbloom or similar products. Just finish with 1part micro/3 part bloom. Again, if done rite. If your plants(because of what YOU'VE fed them, or how you treated them) are yellowing, or generally not tip-top, 3 weeks before harvesting, I wouldn't bother pk-boosting though.
 
homebrewer

homebrewer

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Liam420 said:
Hi guys

basically i was wondering whats a good alternative to Advance nutrients and GH products


Iv read ssooo much stufff on nutrients , about AN / GH , bio bizz

basically im wondering whats a really good alternative to some good nutrients, im using jungle juice at the moment but am defiantly interested in using some other stuff especially if it will be cheaper

the whole AN line up is expensive, im having great results but cant hurt to experiment

i was looking too add :

big bud
bud candy
over drive
final phase to my jungle juice, but there has to other stuff out there , for cheaper

any advice on nutrients would awesome!
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Are you in hydro or containers?

What you're using now is a ripoff of GH and GH is pretty solid. A few other companies ripped off the GH 3-part formula too: cutting edge and blue planet are two that come to mind.

There are better and less expensive routes but it doesn't seem like you care too much about 'less expensive' when you're chompin' at the bit to add sh*t that isn't needed.
 
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polo the don

polo the don

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I use dyna gro with good results. They are the only company that figured out how to put everything in one bottle! If you order direct from them it's cheaper. I buy big bottles but the 11 oz bottles are like 7-8 bucks.
 
Aeroknow

Aeroknow

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well....floranova is good too, and very concentrated also(I use 1 tsp/gal max)
cns-17 is good shit,, but you need to use as much as floraseries(i use 3 tsp/gal max)
not knocking the dyna gro, just have never used it. i just got done using the cns-17 for a couple years ALMOST exclusively, and just went back to the floraseries(go figure), because i don't like how the cns gunks up pump filters! Good shit besides that though.
And with the floraseries, you are in complete control with the numbers. I sware some day i'll check out the dynagro. Stuff seams very cost effective.
 
BROBIE

BROBIE

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Another AN slam fest.... never fails. Point: 3-part formulas have a very good shelf life because the antagonistic elements are separated. I have GH 3-part going on 8 years and AN 2-part 2 years with no precipitation at all. I had to throw away my dyna because of solids forming up after a year's time. This problem is inherent with 1-parts. But if you plan to use up most of your bottle, dyna is a good choice. Just voicing my observations.
 
homebrewer

homebrewer

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BROBIE said:
Another AN slam fest.... never fails. Point: 3-part formulas have a very good shelf life because the antagonistic elements are separated. I have GH 3-part going on 8 years and AN 2-part 2 years with no precipitation at all. I had to throw away my dyna because of solids forming up after a year's time. This problem is inherent with 1-parts. But if you plan to use up most of your bottle, dyna is a good choice. Just voicing my observations.
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I hate to break it to you but you tossed out perfectly good plant food there. To that, the precipitation of solids is from improper storage (I've got some GH 3part that spent a winter in a garage that also formed solids, though I'm still using it on the veggie garden) Live and learn?

This was grown with a bottle that had 'solids' in it right from the store:



 
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