If Your a New Grower, You're gonna wanna see this!

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hogbud

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BxHaZe87 said:
would it be beneficial to change my hps bulb to mh at like weeks 6-7 or 6-8 to add sum more uvb light to resin up the buds a litte more then switch back to hps to finish off?
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would be more beneficial to run both together for a more full spectrum
 
burgertime2010

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This thread is messy and for a beginner is dangerous to follow a lot of it. Bad ideas and worse information. Leave it be.
 
kinddiesel

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I am going to invoice you waste my time reading some thing with no point at all ! ok pointless thread almost . my new pic I promised .of my self
 
Flaming Pie

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If you really wanted to help newbies, you would make the information easily accessable to them, not hidden in your website that is invite only.
 
hogbud

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Flaming Pie said:
If you really wanted to help newbies, you would make the information easily accessable to them, not hidden in your website that is invite only.
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Nah the invite only thing keeps the trolls out and the BS myths, makes teachin and learnin so much easier

besides there is a lot of post here that steer em in the right direction
 
BWG707

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Actually I've found it to be the opposite- lots of myths and single minded techniques from books. True you can get some good scientific data from publications but then you need some real time, hands-on, very experienced growers input. Of course everything on forums will not be correct, it's your job to sift through the input and ask questions from some of the well established growers on here. The thing is you have to put the time in and do lots and lots of reading and questioning. I'm not putting anyone down for strictly using books, they do contain valuable info, but just like the forums, you must sift through everything and find the common threads. I think its invaluable to be able to sit at home and reach out to so many top notched experienced growers. There is a happy combination between the two sources. Strictly my opinion but it's worked amazing well so far and while doing so I've met many great people that share a common interest. After all it is a social forum.
 
hogbud

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BWG707 said:
Actually I've found it to be the opposite- lots of myths and single minded techniques from books. True you can get some good scientific data from publications but then you need some real time, hands-on, very experienced growers input. Of course everything on forums will not be correct, it's your job to sift through the input and ask questions from some of the well established growers on here. The thing is you have to put the time in and do lots and lots of reading and questioning. I'm not putting anyone down for strictly using books, they do contain valuable info, but just like the forums, you must sift through everything and find the common threads. I think its invaluable to be able to sit at home and reach out to so many top notched experienced growers. There is a happy combination between the two sources. Strictly my opinion but it's worked amazing well so far and while doing so I've met many great people that share a common interest. After all it is a social forum.
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this is exactly true and why I called my ditties Nuggets

but is so much easier if you don't have to wade thru the BS to get to the good stuff
 
zander19

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hogbud said:
I posted this info across a couple of threads but looks like only 30 or so members saw it? So I thought I put it all together for ya in one neat little post.

If you are here looking to learn how to grow marijuana, your in the wrong place ! Now if your here looking to share your grow with others then your in the right place. If your here to looking to discover new strains or trends, perhaps right place as well

But as for growing all you'll get here is info that is spread all over these forums and as the late, great, George Carlin once said "It's all bullshit, and it's bad for ya" Hell the book gardening for dummies has better info.

Marijuana is a plant, it is no more special than any other plant and it follows ALL the rules of the plant kingdom just like all other plants. Wanna learn what this means, get a book on botany! And after you have an understanding of how plants grow and what they need get a book on Marijuana Botany (google it, it is all over the web for free to download) by Robert Connell Clarke.

Most people have no clue about the real facts known about this plant after you read Marijuana Botany, read Marijuana Chemistry (also all over the web). I'm gonna give ya an example (and I'll back it up with pics LOL) here is a quote from Marijuana Botany chapter 4,,,,,,,

As the previously secreted resins mature, they change color. The polymerization of small terpene molecules (which make up most of the resin) produces long chains and a more viscous and darker-colored resin. The ripening and darkening of resins follows the peak of psychoactive cannabinoid synthesis and the transparent amber color of mature resin is usually indicative of high THC content. Many cultivators agree that transparent amber resins are a sign of high-quality drug Cannabis and many of the finest strains exhibit this characteristic. Particularly potent Cannabis from California, Hawaii, Thailand, Mexico, and Colombia is often encrusted with transparent amber colored instead of clear resin heads. This is also characteristic of Cannabis from other equatorial, subtropical and temperate zones where the growing season is long enough to accommodate long term resin production and maturation. Many areas of North America and Europe have too short a season to fully mature resins unless a greenhouse is used. Specially acclimatized strains are another possibility. They develop rapidly and begin maturing in time to ripen amber resins while the weather is still warm and dry.

Now I'll bet your all saying WTF? amber is good? Yeah, I know the forums teach that amber is bad LOL and this is what I'm tryin to tell ya. The stuff you get from forums is crap, the canna specific nutes and products are crap. (and so very much higher priced LOL) Did you know that pot grown under T5's test more potent than pot grown under HID's? Read this,,,,,

http://bigbudsmag.com/grow/how/article/blooming-marijuana-buds-fluorescent-lights-april-2012

I know, your sayin I've never seen a strain that grows transparent amber trichomes, true if a breeder gets one you think he'll share? Would you? If you had a plant that blew all others away wouldn't ya keep it for yourself? Well back in the old days most all the good pot looked like this, but good luck finding it!

Yes I said looked like this,,,,,,,,,

first pic is a flowering plant in week 5 of flower, notice it is about 50% amber
second set of pics is a clone that has been in veg for 2 weeks, notice that it is covered in trics and if ya look closely you'll see yes there it is some amber startin to form, ya think I should chop it? LOL View attachment 3152909 View attachment 3152910 View attachment 3152911 View attachment 3152912 View attachment 3152913 View attachment 3152914 View attachment 3152915
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rite for a start how the fuck do you think a new grower is going to keep up with this? there NEW for a reason. KEEP It SMALL dont go tell them crap they dont need to know. tell them how to do a grow god help them to do it give them small bits of info to get them by. if you fill them with all this crap then they will find it hard to grow an then have more issue due to your NEW GROWERS INFO GUIDE or what ever. i see to many people on here making shit to hard form new growers. so PLEASE keep it small for them or post this in a new thread with people that know what your talking about.....
 
hogbud

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zander19 said:
rite for a start how the fuck do you think a new grower is going to keep up with this? there NEW for a reason. KEEP It SMALL dont go tell them crap they dont need to know. tell them how to do a grow god help them to do it give them small bits of info to get them by. if you fill them with all this crap then they will find it hard to grow an then have more issue due to your NEW GROWERS INFO GUIDE or what ever. i see to many people on here making shit to hard form new growers. so PLEASE keep it small for them or post this in a new thread with people that know what your talking about.....
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I spent years here teaching new growers how to get their grow on and helped 100's of growers grow great plants
https://www.rollitup.org/t/noob-advice.277820/

https://www.rollitup.org/t/calling-all-noob-growers.316301/

https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-truth-about-flushing.409622/

https://www.rollitup.org/t/balls-to-the-wall-grow-riddleme-gets-serious.347914/

and many many more
 
Wavels

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hogbud said:
For starters I use Jack's Classic Citrus FeeD 20-10-20 as my nute of choice and it contains 4.9% sulfur
I also use Epsom salt which is 10% Mag and 13% sulfur
but the feeding the clones got was from 14% sulfur I bought at a nursery mixed with my Citrus FeeD
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I have been using Jacks Citrus FeED only for my last several crops.The result is potent, tasty, splendid and zaftig buds.

This hogbud guy seems to know whereof he speaks. Pay attention Kids!
Just sayin'.
 
Uncle Ben

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Wavels said:
I have been using Jacks Citrus FeED only for my last several crops.The result is potent, tasty, splendid and zaftig buds.

This hogbud guy seems to know whereof he speaks. Pay attention Kids!
Just sayin'.
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To set the record straight, I was the one to first recommend Citrus FeED here and many years ago Peters and Dyna-Gro in old forums like OG and CW. I got flamed and gangbanged for daring to leave the GH and Canna herd. Some are finally getting it.

Yes, hogbud has paid his dues, as I have.

If you want to learn how grow, learn botany and stay away from the crap you find in cannabis websites. Now, hogbud's by invitation only site is a different animal. It consists of old RIU members who are veterans at growing all kinds of plant material, masters at cannabis, and keep it simple and basic....old school. The only way to go. ;)
 
Wavels

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Uncle Ben said:
To set the record straight, I was the one to first recommend Citrus FeED here and many years ago Peters and Dyna-Gro in old forums like OG and CW. I got flamed and gangbanged for daring to leave the GH and Canna herd. Some are finally getting it.

Yes, hogbud has paid his dues, as I have.

If you want to learn how grow, learn botany and stay away from the crap you find in cannabis websites. Now, hogbud's by invitation only site is a different animal. It consists of old RIU members who are veterans at growing all kinds of plant material, masters at cannabis, and keep it simple and basic....old school. The only way to go. ;)
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Big Gigantic tip of the hat to Uncle Ben, as he was the one who initially suggested the benefits and made me aware of Jack's Citrus FeED!

Credit given to where it is do is in order.
Thanks UB!
 
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