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The Yorkshireman

The Yorkshireman

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welshwizzard said:
I disagree. You can watch them launch and leave our atmosphere with your own eyes. Sounds like paranoia central in here!
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I mean they launch rockets but they don't go to the ISS.

Chris Hadfield certainly wasn't on the rocket that supposedly took him because he was spraying water round a zero G plane at the time.

A man can't be in two places at once.

Lol.
 
Saerimmner

Saerimmner

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just gna have me dinner then ill b bk n read that email

The Yorkshireman said:
Your logic is flawed.
How are you going top see aboard the ISS without watching internet videos?
It's the only evidence available and it's demonstrably fake so where do we go from here?


I'm not proving something happened, I'm proving something DIDN'T happen by way of logic and science.

I can't prove 100% where those videos were taken but we know they weren't taken in fucking space that's for sure.
There are no random gravity shifts in the vacuum of space, videos of astronauts bouncing about like a trampoline dictates they are not in space.

Just like I can't prove who was behind 9/11 and we'll probably never know what really did happened that day but we can prove what DIDN'T happen and that's that planes didn't crash into the towers and that fire/explosion DIDN'T cause them to collapse.

How do we know this?..........Science!

I thought you were a rational thinker Rimmner.
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I am a rational thinker, hence thinking there is a possibility that since none of this has been disproved by scientists/college professors etc that your theories could be wrong, even if only slightly, indeed you yourself admit "I can't prove 100% where those videos were taken "


Well we will just have to agree to disagree as we are just going round in constant circles here.

So theres not a single person that was on the ground that saw a plane fly into the towers? And all the thousands of videos of plane crashing into the towers were all faked? And the SCIENTIFIC proof (not internet videos) of this are where? surely you can see why I have doubts about these theories, for every argument you proffer, I have a counter, yet neither are able to be proved scientifically, its all theories
 
The Yorkshireman

The Yorkshireman

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That original army video is a lot longer than the UFO one.
You can plainly here a marine call the imminent airstrike with "Here it goes" at 19 seconds into the clip, the actual strike is at 40 seconds.

The UFO strike is 20 seconds into the video.
The UFO video has been clipped by over 20 seconds so you don't here the marine call it.
 
The Yorkshireman

The Yorkshireman

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Saerimmner said:
So theres not a single person that was on the ground that saw a plane fly into the towers? And all the thousands of videos of plane crashing into the towers were all faked? And the SCIENTIFIC proof (not internet videos) of this are where?
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What they saw and what actually happened are 2 different things mate.

There are NO videos of planes crashing into the towers because they weren't planes (well, not civilian passenger planes)
You THINK they were planes.

You can't demand proof and then discredit internet videos, that is a "No true Scotsman" logical fallacy.
 
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Saerimmner

Saerimmner

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The Yorkshireman said:
What they saw and what actually happened are 2 different things mate.

There are NO videos of planes crashing into the towers because they weren't planes (well, not civilian passenger planes)
You THINK they were planes.

You can't demand proof and then discredit internet videos, that is a "No true Scotsman" logical fallacy.
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I personally dont care enough about 9/11 to have made my mind up either way but thats neither here nor there atm.

The point I was trying to get at was..... If people saw planes fly into the building from down on the ground, and videos like this...
show the same thing, and the people on the ground agree that that video is what they saw whilst they were on the ground below, then how were there no planes that flew into the tower?


This is a genuine question mate as ive never really looked into any of this stuff other than skimming thru the odd video when it pops up somewhere, just whenever stuff like this comes up I dont see how they have either tricked thousands of ppl or claim it never happened etc
 
Saerimmner

Saerimmner

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The Yorkshireman said:
What really happens when a plane hits a wall like that the ones at The Pentagon?

This.......

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Slight weight difference of around 150 tons though, an as we all know a bigger bullet makes a bigger hole in the same tin can, also as they said in the video its supposed to be testing a nuclear facility wall, which are generally armoured to some degree, steel skyscrapers like the trade centre arent solid armoured concrete, they look more like this (see pic0 and then are just clad in an outer skin of metal and glass normally

http://www.featurepics.com/FI/Thumb300/20070511/Skyscraper-Under-Construction-314972.jpg

 
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IC3M4L3

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what abut that " good ole boy" who was in the smaller tower, wer the mayors office was, they rushed him down and as he left he saw the damage in the lbbie WELL before the planes had hit, the main support beams wer cut on angles like for demolission,
ANYHOOO,
he told his story and i shit u not within a few days he was dead of a unknown cause


bush did 9-11 to use as a excuse to start a war over 1 thing

OIL. the plane that hit the pentagon dissapeared? shit ther even vid from a garage that shows it was a missile not a plane, the plane that crashe din a feild, again totally gone, only pages form one of the pakis terorist passport survived, oh yeh the dead paki terror tha is acually alive and well in the states sumwer

i dont think the main tower vids are fake, ther just not, id say more lia drone plane, theyve treid and tested them. even mocked emergency scenarios EXAKTLY like wat happene din 9-11


crazy shizzle my nizzle
 
The Yorkshireman

The Yorkshireman

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Saerimmner said:
Slight weight difference of around 150 tons though, an as we all know a bigger bullet makes a bigger hole in the same tin can, also as they said in the video its supposed to be testing a nuclear facility wall, which are generally armoured to some degree,
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I said the pentagon not the towers.

The Pentagon has thicker walls, it's the most fortified government building on the planet.

But it made no impact at all travelling at 500mph, something that is physically impossible for a Boeing 7xx series to do at sea level.
 
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The Yorkshireman

The Yorkshireman

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Saerimmner said:
This is a genuine question mate as ive never really looked into any of this stuff other than skimming thru the odd video when it pops up somewhere, just whenever stuff like this comes up I dont see how they have either tricked thousands of ppl or claim it never happened etc
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2 mins and I'll get you a close up video of the (non) impact.

I'm just posting some scientific proof about the burning temps of Jet fuel and the melting point of graded steel for you.

;)
 
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