Question for the LP's and small LP's

The Hippy

The Hippy

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I'm mostly anti LP because THe system is trying to make them the only game in town. I will never agree with that.
I'm actually a HUGE fan of small business and support my local ones a lot.
I am totally in favor of folks who "have to" buying from LP's
But I for one, unless otherwise couldn't, would always want to provide my own. Therefore LP's would never be able to sell me anything. This self serve opportunity for everyone who wants to is my first priority.
I'm not against business, I'm against big business and monopolies.
I'm against the "you only buy from companies setup"

It's the peoples plant....not some companies...it my plant...and I don't need no help.
 
Devil Lettuce

Devil Lettuce

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The Hippy said:
I'm mostly anti LP because THe system is trying to make them the only game in town. I will never agree with that.
I'm actually a HUGE fan of small business and support my local ones a lot.
I am totally in favor of folks who "have to" buying from LP's
But I for one, unless otherwise couldn't, would always want to provide my own. Therefore LP's would never be able to sell me anything. This self serve opportunity for everyone who wants to is my first priority.
I'm not against business, I'm against big business and monopolies.
I'm against the "you only buy from companies setup"

It's the peoples plant....not some companies...it my plant...and I don't need no help.
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I'm with you 100%, I've always been a huge proponent of the right to grow your own. Like you mentioned, there are some people that don't have the will or the means to grow, so there will still need to be an affordable and caring source for the patient to get their medicine from. I also agree that the system is stacked against the smaller LP's, but there will still be many that come out the other end of the Health Canada maze, it just takes a lot more time and energy without connections, lobbyist and lawyers working for you. I firmly believe that in the next couple of years we will see 100+ smaller owner-operated operations that keep overhead as low as possible to provide the cheapest medicine possible. No fancy branding, no fancy websites, no misleading tactics, just well-grown medical grade marijuana without all the BS.
 
leaffan

leaffan

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I've talked to many as well, and the number one priority with EVERY one has been to make money.
There is nothing wrong with that.
I have openly said here that I would like to make money in this new industry. I also care about patients, none more than my own son.
I don't doubt for a second that many have good hearts and mean well.
Lets be honest though, patient care comes secondary.
It just gets a little tiresome with the rhetoric.
Chad and his family might be the exception.
 
Devil Lettuce

Devil Lettuce

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leaffan said:
I've talked to many as well, and the number one priority with EVERY one has been to make money.
There is nothing wrong with that.
I have openly said here that I would like to make money in this new industry. I also care about patients, none more than my own son.
I don't doubt for a second that many have good hearts and mean well.
Lets be honest though, patient care comes secondary.
It just gets a little tiresome with the rhetoric.
Chad and his family might be the exception.
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By staying small and keeping overhead down, it is very possible to both run a profitable business and provide medicine to patients for a lot cheaper than what the big boys are doing. I'm not trying to make it sound like every LP is doing this out of the bottom of their hearts, of course everyone needs to make a living. That said, these people actually know what they are doing, love what they do, and don't have shareholders that they need to answer to before the patients.
 
The Hippy

The Hippy

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I'll always side with the under dog.
I'm for companies big or small ( I'd shop with them ) as long as people can also provide their own.
Try taking that right away and I get mean
 
The Hippy

The Hippy

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There is nothing like dealing with small owner operated companies IMO.
I like those folks the best. I know then that the people doing the work are getting the money.
I know more people screwed by big companies ( no feelings ) than by small ones. Small ones treat their employee's better I feel.
I know their are exceptions to those thoughts, I understand that of course.
 
leaffan

leaffan

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Devil Lettuce said:
By staying small and keeping overhead down, it is very possible to both run a profitable business and provide medicine to patients for a lot cheaper than what the big boys are doing. I'm not trying to make it sound like every LP is doing this out of the bottom of their hearts, of course everyone needs to make a living. That said, these people actually know what they are doing, love what they do, and don't have shareholders that they need to answer to before the patients.
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It isn't entirely up to you to decide to keep overhead down. Ultimately it is Health Canada who will dictate how much cash you have to inject to play. I go back to Health Canada's original MMPR proposal, where they make it clear that you had better be a mid size company in a very short period of time to continue playing (if you're even allowed on the field). Be prepared for more than this recent costly QA shift in mentality, that's peanuts for what can be coming down the pipeline.
How about for example, new very costly mandated reporting software that could be introduced? Cough up $300,000 please...
Point being it's not always in your control.
Anyways, good luck. Not trying to bash, just would like to read or hear something different than the status quo.
 
leaffan

leaffan

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The Hippy said:
There is nothing like dealing with small owner operated companies IMO.
I like those folks the best. I know then that the people doing the work are getting the money.
I know more people screwed by big companies ( no feelings ) than by small ones. Small ones treat their employee's better I feel.
I know their are exceptions to those thoughts, I understand that of course.
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I agree, and I think most others do as well.
The question is will Health Canada allow it?
 
Devil Lettuce

Devil Lettuce

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leaffan said:
It isn't entirely up to you to decide to keep overhead down. Ultimately it is Health Canada who will dictate how much cash you have to inject to play. I go back to Health Canada's original MMPR proposal, where they make it clear that you had better be a mid size company in a very short period of time to continue playing (if you're even allowed on the field). Be prepared for more than this recent costly QA shift in mentality, that's peanuts for what can be coming down the pipeline.
How about for example, new very costly mandated reporting software that could be introduced? Cough up $300,000 please...
Point being it's not always in your control.
Anyways, good luck. Not trying to bash, just would like to read or hear something different than the status quo.
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Hey man, it's all good. I for one really like open discussion from all sides on these things as I kind of sit in the middle. I've been a patient, a grower, a prospective LP myself, and now dealing with things from a QA perspective. I worked for almost a full year coming up with different plans and models for my own small-scale LP, so I know fully well that the ultimate total overhead is still in HC's hands. That said, I also believe in ingenuity, persistence, and hard work, which are all very capable of finding cost-effective solutions to the barriers HC keeps throwing up. Yes, these barriers will surely weed out a ton of applicants, but the ones who do make it to the finish will be resourceful and creative people that likely found great solutions to the problems they were faced with. It is the ones that find these creative solutions that will save a ton on overhead and be able to pass those savings onto the patients.
 
The Hippy

The Hippy

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What is Health Canada making all the rules up. You'd think they were lawyers or politicians or something.
 
The Hippy

The Hippy

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As a retired business owner. I'd be extremely cautious getting into this LP game as a business.
I see it as a failure industry and a huge loss of money for anyone who invests in it.
If it all goes legal...maybe. But the biggest players will try to kill the smallest. If legal the market will be like the beer industry is....too big to be little.
Plus it's the peoples plant.....can be grown by any human...not a good product to try to make a living from. Maybe in the future, but not now
 
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