Perpetual Grow - DWC/Waterfarm 432wT5 Veg, 600w HPS Flower

[duudical]

Always looking great brother. You train more artfully than anyone I've ever seen. My only question is, do you think that you might defoliate a little too much?

My answer..."Probably" Ha ha. I don't know. It is something I am playing with. It seems to really have an effect if you start early. For instance, my Bubba Kush I can strip pretty bare, and within literally 3-4 days later she has stacked two or three more tight nodes and filled out with leaves again. But I started her out early with all the training and defoliating. I have noticed that yields are higher on plants that I do versus plants that I don't. I know it is a huge controversial topic and people freak out over it, but I am trying to learn the optimal way so I would love any advice you have.

 

[youknowthekid!]

My answer..."Probably" Ha ha. I don't know. It is something I am playing with. It seems to really have an effect if you start early. For instance, my Bubba Kush I can strip pretty bare, and within literally 3-4 days later she has stacked two or three more tight nodes and filled out with leaves again. But I started her out early with all the training and defoliating. I have noticed that yields are higher on plants that I do versus plants that I don't. I know it is a huge controversial topic and people freak out over it, but I am trying to learn the optimal way so I would love any advice you have.

I definitely agree that defoliation leads to a much higher yield. The only problem is that I'm still trying to figure out when and how much just as you are. Until now I've really been defoliating to the point where everything below the photo zone is bare, and the photo zone itself is only dense enough so that no light is going straight through to the ground. I will say that you keep your colas totally level which is hands down most important.

I found this link on the subject, http://growweedeasy.com/marijuana-defoliation-tutorial. I like the pics that go before-after-4 days- 4 days more; it's a simple yet promising depiction of the technique. We all just want a canopy of fat colas and no leaves, is that too much to ask for lol??

 

[eastcoastmo]

Nice work man, that blue dream looks amazing! Very frosty indeed

 

[duudical]

I definitely agree that defoliation leads to a much higher yield. The only problem is that I'm still trying to figure out when and how much just as you are. Until now I've really been defoliating to the point where everything below the photo zone is bare, and the photo zone itself is only dense enough so that no light is going straight through to the ground. I will say that you keep your colas totally level which is hands down most important.

I found this link on the subject, http://growweedeasy.com/marijuana-defoliation-tutorial. I like the pics that go before-after-4 days- 4 days more; it's a simple yet promising depiction of the technique. We all just want a canopy of fat colas and no leaves, is that too much to ask for lol??

Yeah, that's the one I read as well. I am trying to watch the plants and see how they take it. I usually start when they are small and just a pluck the larger fan leaves that are shading anything and they usually branch out a lot faster since light is getting down to some lower nodes and they don't have these gnarly huge leaves to maintain. I then basically just let it pretty much bush out and fill in completely with leaves and then *try* and do what that tutorial teaches, which is pull off most of the lower leaves, leaving the top leaves on each growing tip. I usually don't do it quite as vigorously as they demonstrate, but close. The first time I did it I was thinking "Oh fuck, I killed this thing for sure", but within a couple of days it boomed and within a week it was larger and completely full of leaves again. Haven't had one suffer from it yet. He makes the point that if you start in veg they become adapted to the plucking and get used to it so that in flower they have no problems with it as well which is where you get the chunky bud growth. In veg I definitely see more growth/potential-flower sites develop with it and in flower you can see larger, chunkier buds, especially on the lower parts of the branches and colas.

But then sometimes a plant is just super beautiful with all its leaves and I leave it alone because I like to look at it, lol!

 

[duudical]

Nice work man, that blue dream looks amazing! Very frosty indeed

Thans easty! Every morning when I open up that tent I get hit in the face with a super-sweet berry smell from her. I have grown a Blueberry (Dutch Passions' version) and it smelled kind of, sort of, barely like berries, this Blue Dream totally does.

 

[youknowthekid!]

He makes the point that if you start in veg they become adapted to the plucking and get used to it so that in flower they have no problems with it as well which is where you get the chunky bud growth. In veg I definitely see more growth/potential-flower sites develop with it and in flower you can see larger, chunkier buds, especially on the lower parts of the branches and colas.

But then sometimes a plant is just super beautiful with all its leaves and I leave it alone because I like to look at it, lol!

LMFAO that's the truth! I'm glad you mentioned starting it early, because generally I just like to look at my little shrubs in veg. One thing I've always been good at is bushing them out when they're young but that look, I'm sure, can be largely credited to the huge fans. Generally I do most defoliation around weeks 1-5 of flowering but next time I'm going to try a big purge around week 3 of veg too and see what happens.

 

[eastcoastmo]

Thans easty! Every morning when I open up that tent I get hit in the face with a super-sweet berry smell from her. I have grown a Blueberry (Dutch Passions' version) and it smelled kind of, sort of, barely like berries, this Blue Dream totally does.

Nice man, that sounds like a nice smell to have
Man the blueberry from DP has always been a fizzer for me, it's why i continue to only use DJ and sagarmarthas blueberry now, cant mess with the best! They both have that incredible berry smell and taste, love it!
I got myself a pack of dream lotus from bodhi a while back which im hanging to try out, i must get some going next hey

 

[duudical]

Nice man, that sounds like a nice smell to have
Man the blueberry from DP has always been a fizzer for me, it's why i continue to only use DJ and sagarmarthas blueberry now, cant mess with the best! They both have that incredible berry smell and taste, love it!
I got myself a pack of dream lotus from bodhi a while back which im hanging to try out, i must get some going next hey

I totally want to grab some DJ Short's Blueberry after reading some of the things you have posted about it. I liked the Dutch Passion, but it was one of my earlier grows and I would like to grow a good example of blueberry for sure!

 

[duudical]

Look at the flowering room today:



Blue Dream @ Day 20
She has great tops and is starting to bud nicely. Put up some bamboo sticks to spread her open a bit.



Blue Dream @ Day 53
Starting to bulk up.



Blue Dream @ Day 66
Going to harvest in 3 days I believe.



Blue Dream @ Day 66
Doing well. Going to let her go another week just for the hell of it, so far, all trichs are clear/cloudy.



Blue Dream @ Day 55
Definitley having some root struggles, but the DM Zone is bouncing her back pretty well. All the slime is gone. Buds are definitely a little behind on this one, but she has time.

 

[neo12345]

Great looking grow there Duudical.

 

[duudical]

Great looking grow there Duudical.

Thanks man! So glad you stopped by.

 

[akhiymjames]

Man those are some amazing plants bro. Very well done man. I have a HSO Blue Dream seed I'm thinking of popping after my Pineapple Express. Also thinking of popping the White Widow or a couple others that I have on the way. Keep the work up bro

 

[eastcoastmo]

Damn those girls look unbelievable mate
And dude, if you want a solid blueberry, DJ's is the only way to go. Either that or PeakSeeds BC is also a winner

 

[duudical]

Diggn' the new layout. Not so "Internet 2003". I will post some pics later. Things are looking awesome though

 

[duudical]

Anyone have any tips on how to upload photos...keep getting errors when I try the "upload a file" route (all my images are under 5MB), but it goes to 100% like it is uploading and then gives me a very ambiguous error of how it didn't work.

 

[duudical]

Here's what is going on right now.

A look at the veg room:



The Sour Diesel clone in the water farm is doing awesome. Great root development, thick stalk and a lot of recent growth:



The Sour Diesel (seed-grown) in coco has bounced back amazingly from her trauma. She is going into flower in a week or so I think

 

[duudical]

Here is the THSeeds Sage n' Sour that I am mainlining. She is performing perfectly. I am going to let her 4 tops grow out a ways so I can take clones when I top her for 8 and prune her up:

 

[duudical]

Here is the Sour Diesel mother (Reserva Privada) that I have grown from seed in coco. She has recovered beautifully from her trauma and is going into flower in about 8 days.



I have two clones - one is in a water farm and doing insane! The other is begin mainlined in a hemp bucket. I had to space some things out a little so I pruned her way back and got her started on growing eight tops.

 

[duudical]

I have two clones from my Humboldt Seeds Bubba Kush in small hempy buckets. Both are growing well and have impressive leaves:



And on the seedling front they are all doing great, well, with the exception of the Delicious Seeds Sugar Black Rose - she is growing, but very, very funky, I call her "Frankenweed!":

 

[neo12345]

Anyone have any tips on how to upload photos...keep getting errors when I try the "upload a file" route (all my images are under 5MB), but it goes to 100% like it is uploading and then gives me a very ambiguous error of how it didn't work.

If you click on your name in top right of this page, then preferences, then take the tick out of 'Use the Flash-based uploader to upload attachments'. I think that is supposed to fix the problem? All plants looking good too!!