Having an identity crisis, think I'm turning vegan.

puffdatchronic

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FYI: Whey is the watery part of milk that remains after the formation of curds.

Try Hemp/pea/soy/rice protein sources instead:

http://www.amazon.com/Nutiva-Organic-Protein-Fiber-Pound/dp/B0012C2GFM/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1392920607
http://www.amazon.com/Now-Foods-Pea-Protein-Pound/dp/B001DB4MFO/ref=sr_1_22?ie=UTF8&qid=1392920712
http://www.amazon.com/Jarrow-Formulas-Protein-Concentrate-Vanilla/dp/B000BY8GHO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1392920778
Doh! I'll have a look at said sources thanks


I get you, Puff. My wife and I started juicing a year ago and feel great. My digestion is much healthier than when I was grilling steaks, chicken, shrimp, etc on the grill 2-3x a week. After educating myself a little on the meat industry, and all of the shit that goes into maximizing profits, I too have a difficult time eating the swill. Sugars added to milk coming out of cows pumped full of HGH and antibiotics, chickens swelling faster than their bones can support, bleach rinses, etc, have turned me off to it too. You know something is wrong when you look at the average age a young girl starts her menstrual cycle compared to decades past.

Klite, I liked your message, but the delivery is a little rough. Can you find it in your heart to write in paragraphs?



We just started eating Quinoa and like it. GMO are destroying veggies, true. We older folk remember what tomatoes used to taste like. They were acidic and delicious; not like these bland balls of water we get now.


AMERICA, fuck yeah!!
Another good post I find myself nodding with agreement, never even considered the hormone impact on young girls, well pointed out!
 

sunni

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woo hoo just found some reasonably priced whey shake online.. bye bye milk.
whey is milk , casien is a product of cows too

they like to use tricky words, be careful.
youd be surprised what you think is not animal products generally is.
 

Skuxx

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I'm working on being at least vegetarian. I haven't gone a day without meat yet though... I love meat and have nothing against people who eat it. But I think that down the line, people are eventually going to all be vegan.... simply due to evolution.
 

Adjorr

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I'm working on being at least vegetarian. I haven't gone a day without meat yet though... I love meat and have nothing against people who eat it. But I think that down the line, people are eventually going to all be vegan.... simply due to evolution.
i dont know about that, meat eaters have more energy for sex and (at least in my experince) have more children while every vegan ive ever known has no interest in having kids or are gay, based on that it seems meat eaters win out in the "we reproduce" part of survival of the fittest therefore if anything were evolving to eat more meat
 

KLITE

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woo hoo just found some reasonably priced whey shake online.. bye bye milk.
You need to try hazelnut milk, you can make it at home and its the shit with some vanilla essence. A hot chocolate of that tastes like a kinder bueno (not sure they exist over in america)
 

sunni

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i dont know about that, meat eaters have more energy for sex and (at least in my experince) have more children while every vegan ive ever known has no interest in having kids or are gay, based on that it seems meat eaters win out in the "we reproduce" part of survival of the fittest therefore if anything were evolving to eat more meat
i throw just about like 40 different actual studies saying how meat eaters have shitty sex drives and less energy but all research can be tampered with.
 

sunni

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if anyone who wants help b eing veg or just are interested i have a group here on riu in my sig click it apply , and ill accept or you can just pm me, always here to help! :)
 

KLITE

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I get you, Puff. My wife and I started juicing a year ago and feel great. My digestion is much healthier than when I was grilling steaks, chicken, shrimp, etc on the grill 2-3x a week. After educating myself a little on the meat industry, and all of the shit that goes into maximizing profits, I too have a difficult time eating the swill. Sugars added to milk coming out of cows pumped full of HGH and antibiotics, chickens swelling faster than their bones can support, bleach rinses, etc, have turned me off to it too. You know something is wrong when you look at the average age a young girl starts her menstrual cycle compared to decades past.

Klite, I liked your message, but the delivery is a little rough. Can you find it in your heart to write in paragraphs?



We just started eating Quinoa and like it. GMO are destroying veggies, true. We older folk remember what tomatoes used to taste like. They were acidic and delicious; not like these bland balls of water we get now.


AMERICA, fuck yeah!!
Sorry you are right, today is the hogging of the bong day for me and my coherent writting skills get put aside. I agreewith what you said about the meat industry big time. I think its really bad in america, i mean over here in spain you goto the butchers and meat looks like it was actually living at some point, huge difference from the UK. Menytioning the UK and mentruation, i had a friend who had her first one at 8! Fucking outrageous 8!
Quinoa really is amazing and so is amaranth but its consistency doesnt really make it the best accompaniement for lunch/dinner. Theyre very easy to grow and not too hard to process. Im planning to devote 70% of my farm this year to growing quinoa this spring since it costs almost 10 euro a kilo lol.
Ive been thinking about getting a juicer you might have convinced me, i imagine apples carrots and beetroot would make a lovely juice.
Im curious about you guys in america. Are there like places where you go to to buy just fruit and vegetables? Another one for meat? Or you just go to the supermarket and its all there and very shitty quality? Are there every day food markets? Are fruits vegetables and legumes expensive? Does it really depend what state you are at? Is it true you turn on the tele and they advertise the craziest food you can think of like cheese filled hot dogs and chocolate covered pringles?
 

dr.gonzo1

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if anyone who wants help b eing veg or just are interested i have a group here on riu in my sig click it apply , and ill accept or you can just pm me, always here to help! :)
If I join will you tell me whether funions are vegan or not?
 

KLITE

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if anyone who wants help b eing veg or just are interested i have a group here on riu in my sig click it apply , and ill accept or you can just pm me, always here to help! :)
I can be a witness to that, Sunni was way too nice with me and really helped me out with hints tips and other explanations to an ignorant and now less fat meat eater like me.
 

ClaytonBigsby

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Sorry you are right, today is the hogging of the bong day for me and my coherent writting skills get put aside. I agreewith what you said about the meat industry big time. I think its really bad in america, i mean over here in spain you goto the butchers and meat looks like it was actually living at some point, huge difference from the UK. Menytioning the UK and mentruation, i had a friend who had her first one at 8! Fucking outrageous 8!
Quinoa really is amazing and so is amaranth but its consistency doesnt really make it the best accompaniement for lunch/dinner. Theyre very easy to grow and not too hard to process. Im planning to devote 70% of my farm this year to growing quinoa this spring since it costs almost 10 euro a kilo lol.
Ive been thinking about getting a juicer you might have convinced me, i imagine apples carrots and beetroot would make a lovely juice.
Im curious about you guys in america. Are there like places where you go to to buy just fruit and vegetables? Another one for meat? Or you just go to the supermarket and its all there and very shitty quality? Are there every day food markets? Are fruits vegetables and legumes expensive? Does it really depend what state you are at? Is it true you turn on the tele and they advertise the craziest food you can think of like cheese filled hot dogs and chocolate covered pringles?

Yeah, America sells more shit labeled "food" than anywhere else in the world. I read once that 80% of the processed foods Most Americans consume daily are illegal in most of the civilized world. When I would go to Europe, most countries don;t have half the shit we have everywhere here. 150 different flavored potato chips, 450 different kinds of candy, shit, shit, shit, everywhere. Commercials for shit food at every commercial break. There is a reason we are Mcfucking fat now. It is disgusting.

There are butchers shops, there are farmer's markets with produce only, there are grocery stores with all of it, there are health food stores that charge 4x as much for a little healthier option, there is everything you can think of here.

Pitiful
 

ClaytonBigsby

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i dont know about that, meat eaters have more energy for sex and (at least in my experince) have more children while every vegan ive ever known has no interest in having kids or are gay, based on that it seems meat eaters win out in the "we reproduce" part of survival of the fittest therefore if anything were evolving to eat more meat

You do know there are plenty of pro athletes that are vegan, right? Some bad MFers in the NFL. Protein is everywhere. Some legumes/rice combos have every amino acid you need.

I like you, but that post made you sound like your avi.
 

KLITE

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Yeah, America sells more shit labeled "food" than anywhere else in the world. I read once that 80% of the processed foods Most Americans consume daily are illegal in most of the civilized world. When I would go to Europe, most countries don;t have half the shit we have everywhere here. 150 different flavored potato chips, 450 different kinds of candy, shit, shit, shit, everywhere. Commercials for shit food at every commercial break. There is a reason we are Mcfucking fat now. It is disgusting.

There are butchers shops, there are farmer's markets with produce only, there are grocery stores with all of it, there are health food stores that charge 4x as much for a little healthier option, there is everything you can think of here.

Pitiful
I think i once remember watching a fight at a friends house through streaming and all i remember was us going sick at the commercials like woooooow wtf! that looks ridiculously tasty! and feeling like drooling dogs but then wondering jesus is it really like that? all the fucking time? Impressive must make it hard to resist!
Is it cheaper to eat all that fast food and etc due to subsidies or whatever than to go to those types of stores you mentioned?

I dont know how to multi quote but in reference to athletes ive come to find out that recently like past few years the top athletes in different fields from endurance to fighting are vegans. I knew this woman who was in her late 60's had done 4 iron mans, ran swam and cycled god knows how many miles a week and she was vegetarian. She did not!!! look older than late 40's i swear.

Yep legumes are the shit. Lentils are my favourite and they have all 9 amino acids:
http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/legumes-and-legume-products/4338/2

I think good old potatoes are better than rice very complete food too, i mean it saved europe from famine and back in the day it has to be very good:
http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/vegetables-and-vegetable-products/2770/2
for comparison:
http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/cereal-grains-and-pasta/5707/2

If you want ill give you the recipe for a spanish Potaje that consists of lentils and potatoes lol funny thing its considered peasant food here but i bet there arent many two other foods you could get such complete nutrition from. Theres a reason people ate that kind of stuff and then managed to work fields from dawn until dusk... but then again i could be wrong.
 

ClaytonBigsby

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Hell yes, I'd love the recipe. Please, and thank you.

America, home of Monsanto. Our corporations spend hundreds of millions of dollars on advertising and R&D to sell absolute shit, for an enormous profit, and people eat it up. Ten years ago they created a drug called Olestra for potato chips. It was supposed to make them fat free or some other BS, it wrecked people's intestines, giving them explosive diarrhea. People STILL eat the shit. It's amazing. They own the FDA and make all kinds of wild claims about food to sell it. We have "fat free" sugar.
 
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