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GandalfdaGreen

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Stow...did you ever find out about ways to influence gender? I wonder if it's just snake oil. I've never had this male ratio UNTIL I grew in the cold. What pisses me off is over half my popped B gear seems to be tall and vigorous :( Seems to be the nanner theme.
I have been reading more and more about the whole nanner thing. Maybe everything is just moving too fast. What the hell do I know?
 

st0wandgrow

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Holy shit st0w. I have heard others say Gascan is a fucker. What's up with that? I haven't been over there in ages. What a shame.
I couldn't take it anymore. I went off on his old lady a bit and got banned. Long story, but the place is nothing more than a for-profit biz slinging his beans and his "build-a-soil" website. Nothing wrong with that per se, but you can't speak your mind or deviate one inch from their approved methods without getting a finger wagged at you. Screw that.

Stow...did you ever find out about ways to influence gender? I wonder if it's just snake oil. I've never had this male ratio UNTIL I grew in the cold. What pisses me off is over half my popped B gear seems to be tall and vigorous :( Seems to be the nanner theme.
It's genetics. I don't think you can influence sex using temperature. That shit is coded in it's DNA.
 

SpicySativa

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I couldn't take it anymore. I went off on his old lady a bit and got banned. Long story, but the place is nothing more than a for-profit biz slinging his beans and his "build-a-soil" website. Nothing wrong with that per se, but you can't speak your mind or deviate one inch from their approved methods without getting a finger wagged at you. Screw that.



It's genetics. I don't think you can influence sex using temperature. That shit is coded in it's DNA.
I agree. I bought into the cold temps = more females thing for a minute... But this round I germed my seeds in moist paper towel on top of my internet router and they accidentally got WARM. I mean TOO warm. Once germed, they went into my veg cab with canopy-level temps around 77-80. Nevertheless, I ended up with at least 6/10 fems, possibly 7/10.

Genetics work in mysterious ways... Yes it might average out to 50/50, but we still see families with 5 sons and no daughters, or vice versa.
 

RedCarpetMatches

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I do know if it's cold...don't add a heater! Unless you want 'freeto fans'. IMHO, it's worth the $ for a pack if you get that one keeper. Lately, I don't mind finding a pretty boy stud that smells better than a female ;)
 

SpicySativa

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Nothin' wrong with a few males. They make great worm food!

And it's not a "waste" of soil when you're recycling anyway. I've never bought or created a feminized seed, and probably never will. Blasting plants with hormones or silver just doesn't jive with my organic style.
 

hyroot

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It's genetics. I don't think you can influence sex using temperature. That shit is coded in it's DNA.
you can force a male by adding more 630 and 660 red . Having heavy red dominant light early on.. The plant will think its fall and get tripped out sort of speak.. Its not 100% but last time I tried to force males. I got 3 males out of 5 doing that same thing.

Nothin' wrong with a few males. They make great worm food!

And it's not a "waste" of soil when you're recycling anyway. I've never bought or created a feminized seed, and probably never will. Blasting plants with hormones or silver just doesn't jive with my organic style.


i had a couple hermies last round. old ass master kush .. I fed them to the worms too.
 

May11th

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Red , what are your methods on revegging? Can I take a clone from a finished flower plant and try to reveg? I have mites lingering around in flower and I'd hate to bring in a whole flower plant. I have a ton of clones too lol I keep 2 of each pheno and seems like I just keep stock piling them. Gave one to a cocktail hydro prick to show him organics is superior to his nasty Chem shit. He's such a arrogant ass that I jjust love to prove wrong on a weekly basis. His shit always fails and he ends up smoking my stuff lmao. Mr. Know it all, one of them guys yet has nothing to show for his expertise if that's whatyyou'd call it.I always get more females than males. I'm like a 3/5 ratio and as long as I get something to clone I'm happy.
 

hyroot

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^^^^^^^ leave some buds on it and leaves. towards the bottom after chopping everything. It will start revegging after a couple weeks.. Check green santas thread in led section. He does alot of revegging.
 

RedCarpetMatches

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Red , what are your methods on revegging? Can I take a clone from a finished flower plant and try to reveg? I have mites lingering around in flower and I'd hate to bring in a whole flower plant. I have a ton of clones too lol I keep 2 of each pheno and seems like I just keep stock piling them. Gave one to a cocktail hydro prick to show him organics is superior to his nasty Chem shit. He's such a arrogant ass that I jjust love to prove wrong on a weekly basis. His shit always fails and he ends up smoking my stuff lmao. Mr. Know it all, one of them guys yet has nothing to show for his expertise if that's whatyyou'd call it.I always get more females than males. I'm like a 3/5 ratio and as long as I get something to clone I'm happy.
Deleted insensitive comment ;)

Hydro guys crack me up sometimes. They act like their faster growing chem meds produces something comparable or even better than living soil. How many times have you heard "I'll put my buds against any organics!" Not hating on DWC cuz it's neat and fun, just not my cup of Dr. Tea ;)

Anyway, I went to 20/4 with mostly blue spectrum. I have 3 week flowered SSDD that's notorious for not wanting to reveg...so I'll find out if it makes a big diff. I also foliar with a very light kelp, alfalfa, ProTekt, and aloe spray every night. Don't know if that speeds things up or not either.
 

Javadog

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This was not supposed to be re-Veg related...it was supposed
to just be a normal clone!

But, from my thread:
BTW, one thing that I am finding about the Soma NYCD is
that its clones seem to explode into flower.

They were not flowering when I took them YESTERDAY, and I have
the bulb over the seed tray going 24/0 (where the rest of the Veg
closet goes off for 6 hours a day).

Check out these two clones in the tray:





Now, check out the mother, potted for flowering:


ZERO flowering reaction to the taking of the clone.

Interesting stuff, though annoying, as I am sure that this
is not going to help the clones root. I am hoping that they
still will over the next few weeks, and the BST will keep the
moisture level correct for me in the meanwhile.

Onward and upward,

JD


P.S. The bulb is a 6500 K, bought to stimulate mushroom fruiting,
but it should have a very good "early in the year" spectrum, IIRC.
 

GandalfdaGreen

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I guess who really knows? I think with genetics like Gage or Bodhi your chances of finding a pretty sweet fem pheno is good. The pheno that you find will surely take care of you until you can pop more beans and find other things you like as much or more. I know you guys live this. I blame Sun Maiden pheno 2 for this statement. :leaf:
 

GandalfdaGreen

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This was not supposed to be re-Veg related...it was supposed
to just be a normal clone!

But, from my thread:
BTW, one thing that I am finding about the Soma NYCD is
that its clones seem to explode into flower.

They were not flowering when I took them YESTERDAY, and I have
the bulb over the seed tray going 24/0 (where the rest of the Veg
closet goes off for 6 hours a day).

Check out these two clones in the tray:





Now, check out the mother, potted for flowering:


ZERO flowering reaction to the taking of the clone.

Interesting stuff, though annoying, as I am sure that this
is not going to help the clones root. I am hoping that they
still will over the next few weeks, and the BST will keep the
moisture level correct for me in the meanwhile.

Onward and upward,

JD


P.S. The bulb is a 6500 K, bought to stimulate mushroom fruiting,
but it should have a very good "early in the year" spectrum, IIRC.
Java...the picture didn't load.
 

May11th

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I have that problem with my bc blue berry. It grows up retarded after this but pretty much into multiple tops. I clone on 24/7 too.
 

RedCarpetMatches

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I have that problem with my bc blue berry. It grows up retarded after this but pretty much into multiple tops. I clone on 24/7 too.
Too lazy to take pics now, but my infamous SSDD is reveg'n before rooting?! I'll take pic in morning. Might have to quit clogging Gand's cool thread, and post up with the rest of the noobs.
 

May11th

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I can't upload pics. I don't have the tool bar on my mobile device. I've got plenty of pics but can't upload. My stuff is junk anyhow compared to everyone else's lol i have defiencies lol
 
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