BHO with Vacuum oil/wax tutorial
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Hey everyone I have browsed through the first few pages of this thread and there is some really impressive BHO in this thread. Certainly in a different league than anything I have produced. I have done a few small quantity runs in the 7-14g of starting product range and I guess the major piece of the puzzle I am missing is a vacuum chamber for the purging process. I do things a little bit different every time and have ended up with products that are like an oil, products that look like budder I have seen online, sticky gooey products and one time I ended up with a rock hard shatter like product.
This time it is looking pretty good, at the stage its in it is almost like a mix between shatter and budder (if that makes any sense). What I did was the typical blasting into a glass dish sitting in another glass dish of hot water. I evaporated all of the butane outside and then brought it inside when I was left with the sticky substance in the bottom of the dish. Brought it inside and did a few more runs with hot water to get as much of the butane out in that stage of the process as possible.
**I did make an unfortunate mistake at this stage and allowed a few small particles of herb to blow into the dish when the butane was evaporating. An unfortunate mistake but i'm not overly picky so i'm not too worried about it.
After the butane evaporated as much as possible I scraped out the oil and transferred it to a piece of parchment paper. For the next three hours I worked the oil on the parchment paper, squeezing the oil together then pulling the paper apart until it became less runny. At this stage the product looked really incredible and I wish I had taken a picture at this point. It was a very metallic looking gold color.
Once it was no longer sticking to the parchment paper I just started folding and squeezing it for another hour and ended up with this last night.
This morning after reading this thread I thought I should try some sort of purge method to see if I can get a little more butane out than I normally do. I decided to fold up what I had into a bigger piece of parchment paper and vacuum seal it into a normal food saver bag. I then soaked it in hot water at 120 degrees for about an hour. The water went from 120 down to 80 and then I refilled it and it went from 120 to 80 again.
This is what I ended up with now. Not a huge difference but it is a bit more transparent.
Any suggestions on how I can purge it a bit more without a vacuum chamber for this batch? I was thinking of buying one of those plastic containers made for the food saver's for next time, would that work?
This time it is looking pretty good, at the stage its in it is almost like a mix between shatter and budder (if that makes any sense). What I did was the typical blasting into a glass dish sitting in another glass dish of hot water. I evaporated all of the butane outside and then brought it inside when I was left with the sticky substance in the bottom of the dish. Brought it inside and did a few more runs with hot water to get as much of the butane out in that stage of the process as possible.
**I did make an unfortunate mistake at this stage and allowed a few small particles of herb to blow into the dish when the butane was evaporating. An unfortunate mistake but i'm not overly picky so i'm not too worried about it.
After the butane evaporated as much as possible I scraped out the oil and transferred it to a piece of parchment paper. For the next three hours I worked the oil on the parchment paper, squeezing the oil together then pulling the paper apart until it became less runny. At this stage the product looked really incredible and I wish I had taken a picture at this point. It was a very metallic looking gold color.
Once it was no longer sticking to the parchment paper I just started folding and squeezing it for another hour and ended up with this last night.
This morning after reading this thread I thought I should try some sort of purge method to see if I can get a little more butane out than I normally do. I decided to fold up what I had into a bigger piece of parchment paper and vacuum seal it into a normal food saver bag. I then soaked it in hot water at 120 degrees for about an hour. The water went from 120 down to 80 and then I refilled it and it went from 120 to 80 again.
This is what I ended up with now. Not a huge difference but it is a bit more transparent.
Any suggestions on how I can purge it a bit more without a vacuum chamber for this batch? I was thinking of buying one of those plastic containers made for the food saver's for next time, would that work?
blackforest
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If you really are not going to use a vacuum chamber, you should winterize. That way you can make an absolute and there is zero butane left over if done properly. Otherwise, there is always going to be excess butane IMO.
Is it not too late to use alcohol at this point?
Here is a shot of it this morning. Tons of tiny bubbles formed overnight, this is more butane working its way out right? It is easy to handle for an extended period of time now so that leads me to believe the non vacuum process I did this time has done a half decent job getting the butane out. Hopefully I can upgrade to a vacuum chamber for the next batch.
Any opinions on using attachments made for the food saver as my chamber??
Edit: woops that pic below is meant to go in another thread.
Here is a shot of it this morning. Tons of tiny bubbles formed overnight, this is more butane working its way out right? It is easy to handle for an extended period of time now so that leads me to believe the non vacuum process I did this time has done a half decent job getting the butane out. Hopefully I can upgrade to a vacuum chamber for the next batch.
Any opinions on using attachments made for the food saver as my chamber??
Edit: woops that pic below is meant to go in another thread.
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blackforest
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Looks like there is still quite a bit of butane in there which is understandable. I have taken a final product like that and dissolved it in everclear and made shatter from it. I think it's easier when you are in the purging process IMO. Before I had a vac and chamber I winterized. Works great, super smooth too. There's always next time though!
Hmm that sounds like a pretty good idea. How did you bring the temp up with this setup? Can I still do it this way a day later or am I too late?
Any estimates on how much butane would typically be in a product like this? Say shatter has .05% butane in it would this maybe have 5% butane?
Twitch
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lol well i did this a couple years back during the summer time... in Texas, so my attic was at 130 to 140 degrees so i would then just stick it in my attic for a day... that is actually how i first made wax, i left one up there for 2 day and when i took it out it was a waxy consistency
but a hot water bath you could even do it on your stove get the water up to like 150 and set the jar in the vac bag
also if you do do this, you have to keep the lid and you have to poke holes in it, or else the bag will get sucked into your jar and your oil will end up all over everything when you cut it open.... i speak form experience lol
Haggard
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I can't believe the trash I see in this thread.... lol at a shitload of mis-information. This thread should be renamed Guzias1's Trial and Error (Learning the hard way). It's taking a while for most of you to get this down it seems even with science available to make sense of it all for you thread readers. Here's the trick, if you use good material and good solvents then you will have a good finished product, the tech is to each their own. That being said, What happen to vacpurge? did that guy finally kill himself? lol Here's what's been going on lately .... 
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Thundercat
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Some great looking product there Haggard! I'm sure it tastes just as good.
Twitch
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That's funny because a lot of people give thanks to this thread for showing them how to make bho properly, dude go back to what ever rock you where under we didn't miss you. All your doing is trolling there is a lot of great info in here a lot of stuff we covered before hightimes covered it in their magazines.
Guzias1
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Its easy to believe. The ones who contributed to this thread spent many runs, trial and errors to figure this stuff out.. Many of us don't have access to such fantastic material . Those interested in the art and who stumble across this thread will no doubt learn something they didn't already know before.. Your welcome
lio lacidem
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Havent posted here yet, but have read entire thread. It is packed full of very good useful info. Isnt that how techniques get better thru trial and error? Keep doing what ypu do guys.
Twitch
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it has some racks but i am cleaning them off, it had a little bit of mold on the inside of it. so i sprayed that thing down with bleach and i mean soaked it, now its looks brand new. i am letting it run right now make sure it gets low enough for me.
i am pretty excited about it
Twitch
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150 plus i paid 15 to have him bring it to me 165 altogether
here it is
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/frigidaire-frigidaire-8-8-cu-ft-chest-freezer-ffc0923dw-white-ffc0923dw/10047651.aspx
my temp gun goes down to -40 and it just said lo....
lol this is bad ass!!
here it is
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/frigidaire-frigidaire-8-8-cu-ft-chest-freezer-ffc0923dw-white-ffc0923dw/10047651.aspx
my temp gun goes down to -40 and it just said lo....
lol this is bad ass!!
Haggard you a fucking idiot. Why take the time to insult people that took the time to post all their work; learning along the way. None of the contributors ever deemed to be god's gift to oil making. They help each other along the way and make notes of what works well and what doesn't so that the info they gather can help fuck heads like your self think their so great.