Underwater/transplant shock? HELP

budnizor

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i transplanted my babies into a bigger pots last week and im using BlackGold Orchid mix, bone meal, compost and dolomite. i use RO water, current temperature 29-32 celcius, humidity 64%, exhaust fan sucks the hot air out and a fan. based on the picture, what's my problem? please help, im kinda new here :-(
 

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DonBrennon

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Well..........the 1st thing that came up when I googled black gold orchid mix was a youtube video saying 'DO Not buy black gold orchid mix. It WILL kill your plants'..........also look at this review on amazon http://www.amazon.com/Black-Gold-1380-7425-8QT-Orchid/dp/B007Z4UNJ2, bottom of the page.

I'd say your choice of soil was very poor, and you need something with more composted organic matter in it.

Sorry, not much help for your current situation, but unless someone with more experience has a better solution for you, I'd personally write those off, get better soil somehow and start again.
 
DonBrennon

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Just found the Ingredients:

Bark, Canadian Sphagnum peat moss, perlite or pumice or cinders, dolomite lime, and fertilizer

There's just no organically rich humus in there at all
 
budnizor

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i cant find other soil besides black gold. i used black gold potting soil for germination but it works just fine. i changed to orchid mix because the potting soil has slow-released fertilizer. but im not sure whether it's underwater or transplant shock because i didnt water the plants until it drains excess water. am i supposed to water them until the water comes out from the bottom?
 
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budnizor said:
i cant find other soil besides black gold. i used black gold potting soil for germination but it works just fine. i changed to orchid mix because the potting soil has slow-released fertilizer. but im not sure whether it's underwater or transplant shock because i didnt water the plants until it drains excess water. am i supposed to water them until the water comes out from the bottom?
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Looks over watered. Over watering isn't about the quantity of water being used its how often they're being watered.
 
Banana444

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budnizor said:
i cant find other soil besides black gold. i used black gold potting soil for germination but it works just fine. i changed to orchid mix because the potting soil has slow-released fertilizer. but im not sure whether it's underwater or transplant shock because i didnt water the plants until it drains excess water. am i supposed to water them until the water comes out from the bottom?
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Dont you have a homestore? Home depot, lowes, ace...they all have potting soil. To get more rich compost, go dig up some healthy soil in a forest or prairie grass area, mix it 50/50 with your potting soil and add worm castings, could be better but it sounds like if black gold is all you can find, sounds like slim pickins.
 
whitebb2727

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Looks over watered to me. How often are you giving it water?

Take two pots and fill them up. Set one in the sun and let it dry out. Make sure the other is moist. Pick them both up. Feel the difference in weight.

Only water if they feel light like the dry one.
 
greasemonkeymann

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budnizor said:
i cant find other soil besides black gold. i used black gold potting soil for germination but it works just fine. i changed to orchid mix because the potting soil has slow-released fertilizer. but im not sure whether it's underwater or transplant shock because i didnt water the plants until it drains excess water. am i supposed to water them until the water comes out from the bottom?
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how much d-lime and bonemeal did you use?
 
budnizor

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there's only black gold and scotts earthgro potting soil that i could find. i mixed 3 bags 8L of black gold orchid mix, 1 bag of 1.3kg bone meal, 1 bag of bio compost, 500 grams of alfalfa meal and 3 tbsp of dolomite. but at the end, i threw all of them away because it smells like urine and it has mold. i transplanted them back into smaller pots and put black gold seedling mix. i mixed 2 gallons of water + 1 tsp of molasses + 2 tsp of milk and fed them. and they're currently under 100W LED full spectrum. humidity around 50-60% temperature 30C-33C. the leaves are dried up, stem looks green and still standing up, it still shows new growth. so since i let you guys know these information, can my plant survive?
 
budnizor

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there's only black gold and scotts earthgro potting soil that i could find. i mixed 3 bags 8L of black gold orchid mix, 1 bag of 1.3kg bone meal, 1 bag of bio compost, 500 grams of alfalfa meal and 3 tbsp of dolomite. but at the end, i threw all of them away because it smells like urine and it has mold. i transplanted them back into smaller pots and put black gold seedling mix. i mixed 2 gallons of water + 1 tsp of molasses + 2 tsp of milk and fed them. and they're currently under 100W LED full spectrum. humidity around 50-60% temperature 30C-33C. the leaves are dried up, stem looks green and still standing up, it still shows new growth. so since i let you guys know these information, can my plant survive?
greasemonkeymann said:
how much d-lime and bonemeal did you use?
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greasemonkeymann

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budnizor said:
there's only black gold and scotts earthgro potting soil that i could find. i mixed 3 bags 8L of black gold orchid mix, 1 bag of 1.3kg bone meal, 1 bag of bio compost, 500 grams of alfalfa meal and 3 tbsp of dolomite. but at the end, i threw all of them away because it smells like urine and it has mold. i transplanted them back into smaller pots and put black gold seedling mix. i mixed 2 gallons of water + 1 tsp of molasses + 2 tsp of milk and fed them. and they're currently under 100W LED full spectrum. humidity around 50-60% temperature 30C-33C. the leaves are dried up, stem looks green and still standing up, it still shows new growth. so since i let you guys know these information, can my plant survive?
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shit man, I don't know what to say.
I've never used milk before, nor black gold.
but adding 1.3 kg of bone meal to that amount of soil is too much., but that doesn't matter considering..
if the plant shows new growth it may be aright, but it doesn't look good..
having grown many orchids in my life, I can speculate that the mix is too acidic, and too "woody"
both work great for orchids (ideal ph is 5.8-6.3)
but that ph isn't good for cannabis at all.
 
cannakis

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budnizor said:
i transplanted my babies into a bigger pots last week and im using BlackGold Orchid mix, bone meal, compost and dolomite. i use RO water, current temperature 29-32 celcius, humidity 64%, exhaust fan sucks the hot air out and a fan. based on the picture, what's my problem? please help, im kinda new here :-(
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Definitely overwatered. Honestly it is better to Underwater in most cases Even transplanting. Though Melons do NOT like little water when transplanting Cabbages and Tomatoes and Hemp Love a nice dry transplant Even if it doesn't look like it... They will kill over like they're Dying for water but wait a day or so then feed just a little and they will Explode with growth compared to keeping them in Moist soil constantly. Thus was something I learned from "Southern Farmer and Market Gardener" by Francis Simmons written in 1842. Great book!
 
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greasemonkeymann said:
shit man, I don't know what to say.
I've never used milk before, nor black gold.
but adding 1.3 kg of bone meal to that amount of soil is too much., but that doesn't matter considering..
if the plant shows new growth it may be aright, but it doesn't look good..
having grown many orchids in my life, I can speculate that the mix is too acidic, and too "woody"
both work great for orchids (ideal ph is 5.8-6.3)
but that ph isn't good for cannabis at all.
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so what can i do to make the situation better? /:
 
budnizor

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cannakis said:
Definitely overwatered. Honestly it is better to Underwater in most cases Even transplanting. Though Melons do NOT like little water when transplanting Cabbages and Tomatoes and Hemp Love a nice dry transplant Even if it doesn't look like it... They will kill over like they're Dying for water but wait a day or so then feed just a little and they will Explode with growth compared to keeping them in Moist soil constantly. Thus was something I learned from "Southern Farmer and Market Gardener" by Francis Simmons written in 1842. Great book!
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but if it's overwatered, the stems dont look purple-ish and the leaves are all dried up. as much as i didnt want to overwatered them, i watered them less than i should. besides that, i made a foliar spray of urea and do you think it will bring the plants back up since they have nitrogen deficiency? i measured the ppm and it was around 92PPM. im not sure whether that's enough or i should add a little bit more sigh
 
budnizor

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and one more thing, i first transplanted them to a bigger container when the roots have not covered the root ball yet. wrong move huh?
 
budnizor

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this is my current situation right now. can they still get up? it has been a week without additives and finally this week i gave them [molasses, milk] (for soil) [urea and alfalfa meal] (foliar spray) please tell me what to do. i really need your help
 

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