Transplant going horribly wrong. Please help!

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noshoesguy

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I've been reading a ton of things about how to grow and transplanting and almost everything says you're supposed to water thoroughly after transplanting. Well the soil is still wet after 3 days and now my plant is falling over and pretty sure it's going to die. It's very pale/lime green. It was rootbound before moving from solo cup to 1 gallon fabric pot. Plant was already looking rough from being rootbound.

Transplanted from light warrior to ocean forest.
While in the light warrior had been fed a couple times with fox farm big bloom, grow big, or bush doctors microbe brew,
Tap Water ph'd to 6.5-6.7 after adding nutes.
Tap water ppm of 180 before anything added.
Under 1000w Metal halide reduced to 600w
Temperatures kept between 68 and 80
Humidity usually between 40 and 60
6-in oscillating fan lowest speed always on.
2x4x 5 ft grow tent with an 8-in exhaust fan using a 8-in to 6-in reducer to fit on the light hood.
Plants were kept extremely dry while in the light warrior and I was hesitant to use as much water as I did when transplanting but everyone says you got to thoroughly water them after your transplanting so that's what I did.
I saw a couple fungus gnats so treated with diatomaceous earth and drops of microbe brew since that as the baccilus that's supposed to kill fungus gnat larva and boomerang.
All nutes added are at about 1/8 strength of label.
20/4 light schedule.
Now I see red/brown spotting as well on fan leaves.
Just jammed a wood stake in there to support the plant.
 

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Fishbulb

Fishbulb

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Not much u can do now but don't water and give them sometime to either die or live

Transplants for me are grumpy for up to a week
 
7CardBud

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If that was my setup I would just ride it out. Treat the soil with BT and then nothing but water for 3 weeks.
 
70's natureboy

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It sounds like you are putting soil in a pot and then watering thoroughly. That doesn't sound like the best way to me. I mix my soil (Pro Mix) with water and mix it to the perfect mosture content and then put it in the pots and let the roots grow into that before I water them again.
 
CannabisErecticus

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noshoesguy said:
I've been reading a ton of things about how to grow and transplanting and almost everything says you're supposed to water thoroughly after transplanting. Well the soil is still wet after 3 days and now my plant is falling over and pretty sure it's going to die. It's very pale/lime green. It was rootbound before moving from solo cup to 1 gallon fabric pot. Plant was already looking rough from being rootbound.

Transplanted from light warrior to ocean forest.
While in the light warrior had been fed a couple times with fox farm big bloom, grow big, or bush doctors microbe brew,
Tap Water ph'd to 6.5-6.7 after adding nutes.
Tap water ppm of 180 before anything added.
Under 1000w Metal halide reduced to 600w
Temperatures kept between 68 and 80
Humidity usually between 40 and 60
6-in oscillating fan lowest speed always on.
2x4x 5 ft grow tent with an 8-in exhaust fan using a 8-in to 6-in reducer to fit on the light hood.
Plants were kept extremely dry while in the light warrior and I was hesitant to use as much water as I did when transplanting but everyone says you got to thoroughly water them after your transplanting so that's what I did.
I saw a couple fungus gnats so treated with diatomaceous earth and drops of microbe brew since that as the baccilus that's supposed to kill fungus gnat larva and boomerang.
All nutes added are at about 1/8 strength of label.
20/4 light schedule.
Now I see red/brown spotting as well on fan leaves.
Just jammed a wood stake in there to support the plant.
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Diamataceous earth is basically pure silica and some strains can react poorly when the dm gets wet and mucks things up in the soil.

your soil is still wet you said since the original transplant water and you said the plant was root bound, your roots might not be able to get out of there original soil footprint and get into the new soil. Check to see if it’s dry an inch away from the stem and an inch or two down right around the rootball, your rootball below may have used up all of its water and the roots are stuck with no access to water around them. Did you lightly break up the rootball before transplanting ?
 
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70's natureboy said:
It sounds like you are putting soil in a pot and then watering thoroughly. That doesn't sound like the best way to me. I mix my soil (Pro Mix) with water and mix it to the perfect mosture content and then put it in the pots and let the roots grow into that before I water them again.
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Yeah that is what I did because that's what everyone should do That's the right way to do it and the way I've done it for the seeds and clones. But this is my first transplant of a rooted plant and everywhere I looked said you needed to water thoroughly after you put the plant into the soil. So not only was the soil already moist I watered it thoroughly after putting the plant in it. This is the kind of thing that happens when every website on the internet isn't specific about what they mean by water thoroughly.
 
NukaKola

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Next time don’t transplant while it’s still a seedling. It could of stayed in the solo cup for several more weeks. I can guarantee that it wasn’t even close to being rootbound.
 
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NukaKola said:
Next time don’t transplant while it’s still a seedling. It could of stayed in the solo cup for several more weeks. I can guarantee that it wasn’t even close to being rootbound.
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I guess I don't know what routbound is then. I always thought it was when the roots started circling the bottom of the cup it was in or pot. If you could please explain what route bound is to me that would be great?
 
CannabisErecticus

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noshoesguy said:
Yeah that is what I did because that's what everyone should do That's the right way to do it and the way I've done it for the seeds and clones. But this is my first transplant of a rooted plant and everywhere I looked said you needed to water thoroughly after you put the plant into the soil. So not only was the soil already moist I watered it thoroughly after putting the plant in it. This is the kind of thing that happens when every website on the internet isn't specific about what they mean by water thoroughly.
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let your plants dry out before transplant it’s easier to transplant and you don’t have to worry about heavy wet dirt detaching and breaking of roots. They were probably slightly over watered before going in and then you resoaked them. There is nothing wrong with saturating your soil completely the first watering when you transplant I’ve done it probabaly a thousand times. use some myco or b-1 vitamin when transplanting it helps with shock and stress from substrate ph change.
 
CannabisErecticus

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noshoesguy said:
I guess I don't know what routbound is then. I always thought it was when the roots started circling the bottom of the cup it was in or pot. If you could please explain what route bound is to me that would be great?
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You were 100% right transplant if your plants were getting root bound just lightly loosen up the rootball so the roots can get into the new soil more easily like I said a stress reducer in your transplant water will help especially since a root bound plant is already stressed and loosening the rootball causes more stress. I know you were being sarcastic but that’s exactly what being rootbound is, let them dry out and recover and they will bounce back
 
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CannabisErecticus said:
let your plants dry out before transplant it’s easier to transplant and you don’t have to worry about heavy wet dirt detaching and breaking of roots. They were probably slightly over watered before going in and then you resoaked them. There is nothing wrong with saturating your soil completely the first watering when you transplant I’ve done it probabaly a thousand times. use some myco or b-1 vitamin when transplanting it helps with shock and stress from substrate ph change.
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Dang it. Now that you mention it I forgot to add the granulated myco. Hopefully it'll recover and be as strong as it's sister who's thriving already in the transplanted medium. Can you recommend a good product that I can make into a liquid that would help with the roots. That I could apply with a dropper?
 
Rurumo

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Pretty common with new growers. Next time, water the new pots of medium a week before you transplant, gives them time to dry out a bit, then after you transplant, be very careful about watering. Only water around the plant where the roots are at first. It will fill in fast, and once it does you'll know, and overwatering will be much less of a concern.
 
NukaKola

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noshoesguy said:
I guess I don't know what routbound is then. I always thought it was when the roots started circling the bottom of the cup it was in or pot. If you could please explain what route bound is to me that would be great?
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I wouldn't even consider these rootbound but this is my solo cups and 1 gallons before transplanting. Transplanting too soon is a huge mistake, you are taking a plant that doesn't have an established enough of a root system and stressing it out by putting it in a larger pot which will retain more moisture for a longer period of time which further deprive the roots of oxygen. You can easily grow a 2' plant in a solo cup.

Also, you shouldn't be adding any nutrients with FFOF this early on.
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Romeo7701

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noshoesguy said:
Yeah that is what I did because that's what everyone should do That's the right way to do it and the way I've done it for the seeds and clones. But this is my first transplant of a rooted plant and everywhere I looked said you needed to water thoroughly after you put the plant into the soil. So not only was the soil already moist I watered it thoroughly after putting the plant in it. This is the kind of thing that happens when every website on the internet isn't specific about what they mean by water thoroughly.
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Hey man you did good with the clones you just went to big on your first pot...
 
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NukaKola said:
I wouldn't even consider these rootbound but this is my solo cups and 1 gallons before transplanting. Transplanting too soon is a huge mistake, you are taking a plant that doesn't have an established enough of a root system and stressing it out by putting it in a larger pot which will retain more moisture for a longer period of time which further deprive the roots of oxygen. You can easily grow a 2' plant in a solo cup.
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see stuff like that is the kind of information that would be nice to be readily available online with pictures. most of the places say as soon as you see the roots trying to come out the bottom holes of the cup that it's needs to be transplanted. On one hand it's sister plant is thriving in the new one gallon pot. Yeah in the solo cups all I've done is water with a dropper pretty much until transplant. It's good to know that they can stay in the cups longer even if their roots are trying to come out the bottom. Cuz I've got four more seedlings that I started about two weeks ago
 
CannabisErecticus

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noshoesguy said:
Dang it. Now that you mention it I forgot to add the granulated myco. Hopefully it'll recover and be as strong as it's sister who's thriving already in the transplanted medium. Can you recommend a good product that I can make into a liquid that would help with the roots. That I could apply with a dropper?
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Recharge is an excellent product it has an excellent variety of beneficial bacteria and fungi , humic and fulvic acid amino acids and Norwegian Sea kelp. Recharge is water soluble

any myco will work some are better than others but the price will reflect that. Some myco don’t dissolve well in water.
A cheap bottle of b-1 vitamin for plants
Or just get a tiny bottle of super thrive which has b-1 vitamins and other things that seem to help with shock.
 
CannabisErecticus

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NukaKola said:
I wouldn't even consider these rootbound but this is my solo cups and 1 gallons before transplanting. Transplanting too soon is a huge mistake, you are taking a plant that doesn't have an established enough of a root system and stressing it out by putting it in a larger pot which will retain more moisture for a longer period of time which further deprive the roots of oxygen. You can easily grow a 2' plant in a solo cup.

Also, you shouldn't be adding any nutrients with FFOF this early on.
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Your Roots look amazing but I would definitely consider that rootbound. What root products are you using just curious :-).
 
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NukaKola said:
I wouldn't even consider these rootbound but this is my solo cups and 1 gallons before transplanting. Transplanting too soon is a huge mistake, you are taking a plant that doesn't have an established enough of a root system and stressing it out by putting it in a larger pot which will retain more moisture for a longer period of time which further deprive the roots of oxygen. You can easily grow a 2' plant in a solo cup.

Also, you shouldn't be adding any nutrients with FFOF this early on.
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Oh when they were in the solo cup they were in light warrior. It's recommended that you do use the big bloom and the grow big while they're in light warrior. The microbe brew was also added because I sterilized the soil with hydrogen peroxide before I planted the seeds into it. So I wanted to add back the bacteria and other helpful things. I haven't added any nutrients to them since I put them in the ocean forests a few days ago. I tried to sterilize the ocean forest as well then add back the microbes with the microbe brew but I don't think that took because there is fungus gnats.
 
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Romeo7701 said:
Hey man you did good with the clones you just went to big on your first pot...
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I've just been researching and trying to follow everything I can find online. Sometimes that doesn't work out well as in this situation. Lol. But yeah after my first attempts for seeds to grow that never sprouted I've started using a hydrogen peroxide and water dilution 24-hour bath then putting them into pre moistened soil. I use the light warrior/perlite mix 60/40 for the seeds. All eight of my seeds after doing that have sprouted. I also sterilize the soil with hydrogen peroxide. Then everything involving watering comes from a dropper. Usually just pH'd to 6.5ish tap water mixed with a very small dose of microbe brew.
 
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