Today is the Day We Hit the Debt Ceiling

Dan Kone said:

I'm not saying that at all. I'm just saying Ron Paul and his big can of gasoline won't put out this fire.




lol. You're telling me to open my eyes? I have posted substance and reasoning, you're posts usually consist of "no you're wrong" with no explanation. I at least understand the problem, you are showing no understanding of the problem what so ever.

How can you have your eyes open when all you do is spout lame soundbites? Learn about the details of the problem before acting like you have the solution.

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Your not saying hes a radical just thats hes a big can of gasoline? ok whats the difference? You bought the mainstream media bullshit obviously.

No Your Wrong - no explanation is necessary - it would be a waste of energy with someone like you - your just flat out wrong. Go read for yourself please at least Dr Paul's books. Convincing you on a public forums would be futile its obvious.



Ill give you a hint:




Here is a good idea for you, write a research paper on the financial crisis in which you have to conclude who is at fault. After you do this read Ron Pauls new book then come back and tell us what you think about Ron Paul and the financial crisis, it will be a 180 I guarantee that.

The reason the young people support ron paul so much is not just because he is some kind of radical or rebel or not status quo. Its because we are still in college writing research papers on current events and history. We can see it plain as day that Ron Paul has had our backs and been right about basically EVERYTHING!

With the Ron Paul Revolution's failure the not-so peacefull revolution will be eminent, it is of utmost importance that Ron Paul is put in place to defend America and protect our children's freedom.

deprave said:

Your not saying hes a radical just thats hes a big can of gasoline? ok whats the difference? You bought the mainstream media bullshit obviously.

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So the only way I could possibly disagree with Ron Paul's ideas is if I'm a mindless zombie who just thinks whatever the media tells me to? GTFO

ron paul said:

Since the bailout bill passed, I have been frequently disturbed to hear “experts” wrongly blaming the free market for our recent economic problems and calling for more regulation. In fact, further regulation can only make things worse.

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No Your Wrong - no explanation is necessary - it would be a waste of energy with someone like you - your just flat out wrong. Go read for yourself please at least Dr Paul's books. Convincing you on a public forums would be futile its obvious.

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lol. Maybe you're the one who should open their eyes instead of buying into cheap soundbites. As far as I can tell the media loves Ron Paul. I never hear him criticized at all. Maybe you are the one buying into their bullshit.

The fact that you can't even tell me why I'm wrong proves you have no clue what you're really talking about and are just buying into the nonsense being put out there by this cheap snake oil salesman.

Ill give you a hint:

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Yeah, stick to cartoons. Good plan.

Here is a good idea for you, write a research paper on the financial crisis in which you have to conclude who is at fault. After you do this read Ron Pauls new book then come back and tell us what you think about Ron Paul and the financial crisis, it will be a 180 I guarantee that.[

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lol. I know why the market crashed. It sure as hell isn't because of the crackpot nonsense people like you think it is.

troll on, the financial crisis is the fault of the FED for letting the banks run a criminal enterprise, If we at least audited the fed or properly audited the lenders it wouldn't of happened(both of which RP is for). You stick with the name calling and Ill stick with cartoons.

so Ron Paul is a can of "gasoline" cause he would audit the criminals and put them out of business? So people not getting ripped off anymore is going to catch the economy on fire how?

How is that research paper coming along?

deprave said:

troll on, the housing bubble is the fault of the FED for letting the banks run a criminal enterprise, If we at least audited the fed or properly audited the lenders it wouldn't of happened. You stick with the name calling and Ill stick with cartoons.

How is that research coming along?

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lol. You refuse to even say why I'm wrong and you expect me to write a paper and read a book for you? lol. GTFO

The fact is you can't even dispute what I've said and just mindlessly spout some gibberish about the mainstream media even though you're the one reciting talking points.

The fact remains Ron Paul supports complete financial deregulation and deregulation is directly responsible for the financial collapse. Auditing the fed would do nothing to shut down any "criminal enterprise" since what happened wasn't illegal at all and Ron Paul supports keeping it legal.

Maybe you should be a little more skeptical next time some political hack presents himself as the wizard of oz. Sure, what Ron Paul says sounds good, but it only sounds good if you don't think to hard about what he's actually supporting. Clearly you don't have that problem though so I'm sure it sounds great to you.

Dan Kone said:

The fact remains Ron Paul supports complete financial deregulation and deregulation is directly responsible for the financial collapse. Auditing the fed would do nothing to shut down any "criminal enterprise" since what happened wasn't illegal at all and Ron Paul supports keeping it legal.
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First, let me repeat it again, he does not support complete financial dergulation, he is all for auditing the fed as well as big business, infact he is practically the ONLY ONE that actually tries to do anything about it!

Second, YES IT WAS ILLEGAL or it should be, It was exploiting a loophole in the system.

deprave said:

First, let me repeat it again, he does not support complete financial dergulation, he is all for auditing the fed, infact he is the one that practically came up with the idea....

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Auditing the fed and supporting financial regulations that would prevent the financial collapse are not the same thing. Clearly, you don't have any understanding of the subject if you think it does.

Second, YES IT WAS ILLEGAL

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What laws were broken?

You have no idea how things work. You're talking about the people who have the ability to write the rules that apply to them. They don't need to resort to criminal activities. They can just make what ever they want to do legal.

Dan Kone said:

Auditing the fed and supporting financial regulations that would prevent the financial collapse are not the same thing. Clearly, you don't have any understanding of the subject if you think it does.



What laws were broken?

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yea and he supports both jackass, how many times do I gotta say it.

really I have nothing civil to say to you dan your a total dickhead, I am done wasting my time with you and will not respond to you any longer with your insults and trolling unless you write a research paper on the financial collapse and then go read Dr. Pauls book, only then would you have truely come around, no discussion on these forums would sway you, like I predicted it is futile to discuss this with you on a public forums which you troll.

deprave said:

yea and he supports both jackass, how many times do I gotta say it.

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You saying it doesn't make it true. Show me where he says he would support stronger financial regulations.

deprave said:

really I have nothing civil to say to you dan your a total dickhead

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lol. Sorry to confuse you with all that pesky true stuff. Go ahead, keep on spouting off talking points and repeating soundbites and just tell anyone who disagrees with you that they need to open their eyes and stop following the main stream media.

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am done wasting my time with you and will not respond to you any longer with your insults and trolling

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Asking you to explain why you keep responding to my posts by saying "you're wrong" with no reasoning behind it is insulting and trolling? lol. Good to know.

unless you write a research paper on the financial collapse and then go read Dr. Pauls book,

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lol. GTFO.

try google and don't click on the main stream media links? go to his website? read his book?

No I don't tell everyone who disagrees with me to 'open their eyes' and stop watching 'the mainstream media' only people like you who repeat the mainstream media (ironically exactly what you are saying I am doing) - Your the one spouting off something that is completely false that was made up by the mainsteam media to make RP look bad. Its common knowledge that RP supports regulation of big business.

deprave said:

try google and don't click on the main stream media links? go to his website? read his book?

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Ron Paul said:

I have been frequently disturbed to hear “experts” wrongly blaming the free market for our recent economic problems and calling for more regulation. In fact, further regulation can only make things worse.

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That is directly from his website, his own words. Is his website part of the mainstream media?

The idea that the only reason people could possibly disagree with Ron Paul is because they mindlessly believe whatever the media tells them to is utterly stupid. If you think that, it's time to put down the koolaide. I know who and what Ron Paul is and I disagree with it.

You like him because what he says sounds good in soundbite form and no one takes his crackpot ideas serious enough to put them under any type of scrutiny. The fact that you just automatically believe him without question and when explained why they wouldn't work you just respond "you're wrong" proves that you are a gullible fool.

Its almost equivalent to saying Nader doesn't support regulation of big business, not quite but your almost there.

He talked about how he would regulate the big bankers many times, Il look for the exact quotes and examples for ya some other time, but anyway nice cut and past of 1 line from the article.

here is that article in its entirety:
http://www.safehaven.com/article/11745/the-moral-hazard-of-regulation

here ya go, just one example, ron paul talking on the financial crisis, talks about regulations.

[video=youtube;66KQ9XvgTLc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66KQ9XvgTLc&feature=related[/video]

The media defends ron paul eh dane?

Just this past week they have called him a radical, an idiot(or whatever bill'o'reily said), a racist, and more.

JoeCa1i said:

[YOUTUBE]aHfZBQyr2Fs[/YOUTUBE] no this guy ain't BS'n ,I'm sure the US has th same weapons,and thats how worlds end...

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" no this guy ain't BS'n"

ok lets have a quick look at who he is before i decide if he's bullshitting or not...

To eradicate bird flu, he proposed arming all of Russia's population and ordering them and the troops to shoot down the migrant birds returning to Russia from wintering.[46]

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(now this hasnt got subtitles but its apparently him saying it)
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lol so they got harrp like weapons and they can cause earthquakes? havent they found the bird killing settings yet? damn ruskie equipment never has as much functionality as hardware from america does it?

lol just found another video from him...
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edit this guy is well funny
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deprave said:

here ya go, just one example, ron paul talking on the financial crisis, talks about regulations.

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Yeah, he seems to say there that he's against any new regulations. Just his crackpot idea that ending the fed solves the problem, it doesn't.