tyler.durden
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Yeah, I've heard that. How much more in taxes do you pay than we do?
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Morbid Angel
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omfg. cause its not cold there at all.
having lived in both america and canada
(i have health insurance in america a very good one)
i would rather pay the canadian taxes. they arent that much higher (but i assume thats state dependant) and thats it the medical care is paid for. i dont have deductibles and bills coming in with co-payments i need to make.
i dont have the headache of insurance forums and i dont need to the call the insurance companies to straighten bills out that should be covered and are coming up "not covered"
i dont have to be told "no" thats not covered so its out of pocket when the hospital fucked up in the first place.
believe me dude. you want canadas systems. ive tried both. canada's is a better system (although theres is huge room for improvement but im strickly speaking payment wise here). you would much rather pay the taxes
the grass is greener on the canadian side with this issue. (imho)
tyler.durden
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That's what I've heard from other Canadians: the taxes aren't much higher and it's nothing compared to the socialized healthcare you receive. Thanks, Sunni...
Morbid Angel
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I dunno tho... Maybe your Trump will build a fence and you wont be able to get in...
get in where?
im a dual citizen or rather in process of such .
bu$hleaguer
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Unclebaldrick
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I am suspicious of such data. It can easily be skewed.
For example, CDC has become reliant on using Google data for real-time information on the spread of the flu. It is a very cool thing; used to take a week for flu news to filter down to them. This is all well and good, but let us imagine a situation where it was in somebody's interest to skew this data. How hard would it be? Not hard at all. Send a bitcoin to a zombie master and you have yourself fully fraudulent data. Consider a Tamiflu salesman who is getting his ass kicked because the flu has not hit his or her region and wants some hot news to boost their sales.
Metadata is best when nobody is looking at it. But everybody is now days. I am not saying that anybody skewed this data, nor am I saying that the data means anything if it is correct. Data like this should be the jumping off point for investigation of the phenomenon, not the story itself.
Maybe a foreign government has a lot of time on their hands and just wants to fuck with a rival. Just take a few million dollars and assemble a room full of people paid to go out on social networks and fuck with people's perceptions. In this case, they could easily manufacture this 350% increase knowing full well that somebody at Google is going to notice it and mention it - Twitter users mention everything always anyway. And then the next day, make sure to publicize the tweet.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/02/putin-kremlin-inside-russian-troll-house
So how much are they paying you Vostok? Are they still hiring? I would be fucking great at this job.
For example, CDC has become reliant on using Google data for real-time information on the spread of the flu. It is a very cool thing; used to take a week for flu news to filter down to them. This is all well and good, but let us imagine a situation where it was in somebody's interest to skew this data. How hard would it be? Not hard at all. Send a bitcoin to a zombie master and you have yourself fully fraudulent data. Consider a Tamiflu salesman who is getting his ass kicked because the flu has not hit his or her region and wants some hot news to boost their sales.
Metadata is best when nobody is looking at it. But everybody is now days. I am not saying that anybody skewed this data, nor am I saying that the data means anything if it is correct. Data like this should be the jumping off point for investigation of the phenomenon, not the story itself.
Maybe a foreign government has a lot of time on their hands and just wants to fuck with a rival. Just take a few million dollars and assemble a room full of people paid to go out on social networks and fuck with people's perceptions. In this case, they could easily manufacture this 350% increase knowing full well that somebody at Google is going to notice it and mention it - Twitter users mention everything always anyway. And then the next day, make sure to publicize the tweet.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/02/putin-kremlin-inside-russian-troll-house
So how much are they paying you Vostok? Are they still hiring? I would be fucking great at this job.
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Unclebaldrick
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GroErr
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Definitely on the health care, I don't mind paying extra to make sure anyone needing health care has it available to them. Our base income tax rates are similar but our effective tax rates are higher here, we don't get to claim a lot of things, mortgage interest being a big one. Effective income tax rates range depending on income brackets but on average there's a 2-5% difference favouring the US. (Statscan table)
Our biggest tax issue here though is not income tax but the Federal HST (5%) and provincial PST (depends on Province, Ontario is 8%) on goods and services, so in Ontario we pay 13% for pretty well anything we buy. Then there are the "little" things like in Ontario every time you purchase a vehicle you pay the 13% tax, if that vehicle flips 2-3 times, every buyer pays the 13%.
bluntmassa1
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Could y'all just drive down to NH and get a car tax free? I know MA has been trying to fight it for years cause everyone goes to NH for cars but NH is like "suck my dick" lol, alcohol and cigarettes too nobody buys that shit in taxachussets. Lol, Not sure how Canada would handle that shit though.
The only good thing I see going on in Canada is the health care and cheap prescriptions but Truedo or whatever his name is is just another crooked politician all that talk about legalization guy ain't gonna do shit.
GroErr
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Yeah, no. While we can go buy there, there's no escaping the tax if you want to license it here
On top of the tax, there's a "duty" (just another name for taxing shit that crosses the border) When our dollar was at par or close to the US dollar it was worthwhile to buy cars down there and even with the taxes they were much cheaper. But today with our dollar at around $0.70 to your, we can't afford to buy anything down there.Our "sin" taxes like alcohol and cigs are even more ridiculous here, a pack of smokes here is in the $10-$12.00 range with 60%+ being tax, I can buy a bottle of the same wine in New Jersey for $10 that I pay $24 for here, only difference is taxes. Here's another good one, hotel rooms in Ontario, you pay for the room, say $200.00, then they add the 13% HST, then they also add an additional 10% "Room Tax" whatever the f**k that is.
We're all still out on Trudeau, we'll see how corrupt he is, but he does seem to be straight-up on the legalization thing. Although imo it'll take another 2, maybe 3 years before that actually gets done, not holding my breath on that one.
a pack of good cigarettes in the several states ive been too is 10$. dont assume everything is just automatically cheaper in the usYeah, no. While we can go buy there, there's no escaping the tax if you want to license it here
Our "sin" taxes like alcohol and cigs are even more ridiculous here, a pack of smokes here is in the $10-$12.00 range with 60%+ being tax, I can buy a bottle of the same wine in New Jersey for $10 that I pay $24 for here, only difference is taxes. Here's another good one, hotel rooms in Ontario, you pay for the room, say $200.00, then they add the 13% HST, then they also add an additional 10% "Room Tax" whatever the f**k that is.
We're all still out on Trudeau, we'll see how corrupt he is, but he does seem to be straight-up on the legalization thing. Although imo it'll take another 2, maybe 3 years before that actually gets done, not holding my breath on that one.
price wise most shit is pretty comparable. of course certain states are cheaper! buy cartons on the rez if youre near one its like 30$ tax free for a carton of cigs thats what i used to do
honestly tax on alcohol and cigarettes dont bother me.
the guy has been in office for like a whole 4 months,. nothing is instant in government lol
but its promising its constantly being spoken about on his social media status along with in the news almost everyday they liberal government is indeed working on it.
will it be completely decriminalized where everyones throwing around seeds around canada and rolling in bags of pot no absolutely not
hes never said thats what he wanted, he said he wanted to legalize in a controlled manner because the original method is not working (some say thats not true legalization definition but thats not what were chatting about )
people like to pick and choose what they read and comprehend , a lot of people are just mad because they misinterpreted his stance on marijuana legalization, so they play him out to be a crooked politican but the reality is they just decided to pick and choose which parts they wanted to "understand" on his stance
hes been making good on alot of his platform so far for the first 4 months hes been in office , especially with the missing and murdered indigenous women, which i think imho is more important than the legalization of marijuana but whos to say you cant do two things at once.
Of course again all person opinion but I would rather wait until he says it ain't happening before assume it isn't going to
am not sure if youre just joking round here but canada was never the one to make it that you need a passport it was the USA who decided on that law and that was because of tighter security needed due to the tragedy of 9/11 this passport at the border thing was written into effect under Bush not Obama.Can't say I ever wanted to move to Canada I'm probably only 3 hours away if that just never been would have if I didn't need a bullshit ass passport!! Fuck you Obama!!
but , most boarder guards will let you pass with sufficient amount of Identification, you may however have a problem coming back in haha
PKHydro
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Lol, you Americans are funny. I live in BC and we have had maybe 2 weeks of freezing temperatures, and like 5 days with actual snow on the ground this winter. Other than that, we've had highs of 8-10°C and lows of 3-4°C with sun and rain mix.
Just stay the fuck out of the Prairies and your fine. Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Manitoba are not worth it.
PKHydro
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Pretty much anywhere in Northern Canada has cold winters. I don't know the exact stat, but some crazy percentage of our population live in the south close to the border.Northern Ontario is very cold -40s
But that's not all the time
I miss winter
bluntmassa1
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I didn't mean Canada did it that's why I said fuck you Obama but yeah fuck Bush too but still Obama didn't fix it so still fuck Obamaam not sure if youre just joking round here but canada was never the one to make it that you need a passport it was the USA who decided on that law and that was because of tighter security needed due to the tragedy of 9/11 this passport at the border thing was written into effect under Bush not Obama.
but , most boarder guards will let you pass with sufficient amount of Identification, you may however have a problem coming back in haha
I still want the visit Canada but I got to get 3 passports just to think about it. But I would like to go to Europe sometime so eventually I will get them.
theboywholived
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The Nexus program is a quick travel for Canadians and Americans to go back and forth effortlessly, no passport needed my friend, come on upCan't say I ever wanted to move to Canada I'm probably only 3 hours away if that just never been would have if I didn't need a bullshit ass passport!! Fuck you Obama!!
Singlemalt
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I believe its just an extra tax to capitalize on tourism. My county enacted a room tax a few years ago as tourism began to boom ("wine country"). It seems the standard business tax and earnings tax wasn't sufficient for the county as tourism grew, so they tacked on an additional 10% as a room tax. They tried to do similar in restaurants but it was defeated as they couldn't figure out how to distinguish restaurants from diners and fast food joints and it would therefore hit county residents every day.Yeah, no. While we can go buy there, there's no escaping the tax if you want to license it here
Our "sin" taxes like alcohol and cigs are even more ridiculous here, a pack of smokes here is in the $10-$12.00 range with 60%+ being tax, I can buy a bottle of the same wine in New Jersey for $10 that I pay $24 for here, only difference is taxes. Here's another good one, hotel rooms in Ontario, you pay for the room, say $200.00, then they add the 13% HST, then they also add an additional 10% "Room Tax" whatever the f**k that is.
We're all still out on Trudeau, we'll see how corrupt he is, but he does seem to be straight-up on the legalization thing. Although imo it'll take another 2, maybe 3 years before that actually gets done, not holding my breath on that one.