Switching to solventless. Need bubble hash help.

hyroot said:

The thing with dry sift is you need to slow dry your material at cold temps and low RH for a few weeks. Then cure at cold temps for a few months. So the waxy membranes dry up completely and do not oxidize. Other wise you will be lucky to get half melt.

When you make bubble. Imo fresh frozen material is better. You don't lose those mono terps. But you want your environment while making bubble to be cold as well. You don't need to dry your material in the same manner as you would for dry sift.

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Oh really? From my understanding dry sift was basically ready instantly, basically like kief. I didn't realize it needed so much time after.

So I just had a harvest recently, should I bag up the trim and put it in the freezer now before it drys out? I've always used dried frozen material when making previous oils, like bho and qwiso, but I'm knew to solventless.

In your method on your thread, after you scope it out of the bags and you put it on the 25micro screen. Do you press it dry? I've heard this traps moisture inside, as well as damaging trich heads. Is this true?

Also you make yours into a fine powder using a microplane. Does this aid in the drying process? Similar to pressing does this damage the trich heads as well? Is damaging the trichome heads even a thing? Haha

Lastly, does it matter what form you leave it add the end? Whether you press it or roll it into a ball or press it with a pollen press. Ect.

Sorry I have so many questions, I know very little about this lol

Sift. You have to prepare material properly over time

Yes store material in the freezer. I guess ziploc freezer bags are ok. I just use tupperware. I've seen other week known hash makers use bags


I explained my process in the tutorial.

I let it dry on the screen for 6 - 12 hours. Then freeze for 1-2 hours.

Then grate into a fine powder. This creates a larger surface area so all the trichomes dry at the same rate and moisture doesn't get trapped.


You can leave it in beach sand / powder form and cure for week then press into a dab . In that video D_Urbmon posted ^^^ I Nikka t shows how to press the beach sand into a wax.

Of you press it onto hash then cure for 2 months so terpenes polymerize

hyroot said:

Sift. You have to prepare material properly over time

Yes store material in the freezer. I guess ziploc freezer bags are ok. I just use tupperware. I've seen other week known hash makers use bags


I explained my process in the tutorial.

I let it dry on the screen for 6 - 12 hours. Then freeze for 1-2 hours.

Then grate into a fine powder. This creates a larger surface area so all the trichomes dry at the same rate and moisture doesn't get trapped.


You can leave it in beach sand / powder form and cure for week then press into a dab . In that video D_Urbmon posted ^^^ I Nikka t shows how to press the beach sand into a wax.

Of you press it then cure for 2 months so terpenes polymerize

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I tend to just use mason jars for my trim storage, but I normally let it dry out before I throw it in the freezer, but ill try the fresh frozen trim method for sure.

And you don't press any of the moisture out? You just scope and let dry for the 6 to 12, then freeze it for the 1 to 2 before powdering it for the final dry/cure?

AllDayToker said:

I tend to just use mason jars for my trim storage, but I normally let it dry out before I throw it in the freezer, but ill try the fresh frozen trim method for sure.

And you don't press any of the moisture out? You just scope and let dry for the 6 to 12, then freeze it for the 1 to 2 before powdering it for the final dry/cure?

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Yeah when you freeze it. You still want some moisture. So it wil microplane right. Otherwise it wil crumble and goop up at the same time.

I microplane it over natural. r raw parchment. ( target carries natural parchment by the pots and pans section)

Then let it dry at cold temps for about week +/- . Then jar up and cure for a week before dabbing.

You can use any brand of fine or zester grater. The microplanes are a higher quality and last longer. The cheap graters will dull out pretty fast. My microplane last about year. Making ice wax 1-4 times a month.


Also make sure to wear nitrile gloves when you do everything. Skin oils degrade trichomes

hyroot said:

Yeah when you freeze it. You still want some moisture. So it wil microplane right. Otherwise it wil crumble and goop up at the same time.

I microplane it over natural. r raw parchment. ( target carries natural parchment by the pots and pans section)

Then let it dry at cold temps for about week +/- . Then jar up and cure for a week before dabbing.

You can use any brand of fine or zester grater. The microplanes are a higher quality and last longer. The cheap graters will dull out pretty fast. My microplane last about year. Making ice wax 1-4 times a month.


Also make sure to wear nitrile gloves when you do everything. Skin oils degrade trichomes

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Alright great, thanks a lot for all the information. I feel much more confident going into this now.

Does it matter how much material you use? I'd like to do a smaller batch to make sure I got the hang of things.

Also can you wash it for too long, time wise? And do you ever rewash stuff or do you throw away the used material?

I disagree with some of what Hyroot said about dry sift.

If the trichomes are melty they will melt no matter what. The proper dry/cure helps with a clean separation ime. While a slow, cold dry and cure are optimal, it's not an absolute necessity.



Here's a video showing the static parchment trick. It's very simple. charge your screen with a brush, then swipe your kief with the parchment and collect the heads.

There are so many different ways of doing things. No one of them are the only way to do it. I recommend watching all of the Matt Rize, Nikka T, Bubbleman and Frenchy Cannoli videos you can find to get an idea of what they do and combine all of the best advice from them. Or try to copy one of their methods exactly if it stands out to you. That's what I did.

@hyroot also will this work for powdering it up?

http://www.amazon.com/Microplane-38004-Professional-Fine-Grater/dp/B00009WE3Z/ref=sr_1_7?s=kitchen&ie=UTF8&qid=1460322656&sr=1-7&keywords=microplane

Yep that'll work perfectly.


I buy mine from the dollar store though. Surprisingly they are better built than the microplane brand at only a fraction of the price. Also more teeth per square inch.

fuck microplane brand

D_Urbmon said:

Yep that'll work perfectly.


I buy mine from the dollar store though. Surprisingly they are better built than the microplane brand at only a fraction of the price. Also more teeth per square inch.

fuck microplane brand

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Great thank you. Yeah I'm defiantly going to be watching a lot of videos.

What kind of yields do you guys normally see with quality genetics and sugar leaf trim?

I would usually pull close to half oz of full melt and half oz of half melt/no melt from a half pound of sugar leaf and larf. YMMV

D_Urbmon said:

Yep that'll work perfectly.


I buy mine from the dollar store though. Surprisingly they are better built than the microplane brand at only a fraction of the price. Also more teeth per square inch.

fuck microplane brand

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Microplanes are $14 at bed bath and beyond and then use the 20% off mailer and get it cheaper.

Mine last a long time.

I get about a 10% return on the 73u. The rest I turn it into rosin. After that I get about a 15% - 20% total return on trim. And 5% more with whole plant wash.

I'm washing a mix of locktite and pre 98 bubba then another batch of purple haze today. I'll post pics later.

hyroot said:

I get about a 10% return on the 73u. The rest I turn it no rosin. After that I get about a 15% - 20% total return on trim. And 5% more with whole plant wash.

I'm washing a mix of locktite and pre 98 bubba then another batch of purple haze today. I'll post pics later.

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Can't wait to see those pics!

That yield is not bad at all I'll take that all day. I haven't tried Rosen method before so that might be another thing I gotta check out.

hyroot said:

Microplanes are $14 at bed bath and beyond and then use the 20% off mailer and get it cheaper.

Mine last a long time.

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But the ones at my local dollar store are 3$. All I'm saying is any lemon zester will work you don't need to pay for brand name. they can be found for less than $14. Way less.

AllDayToker said:

Can't wait to see those pics!

That yield is not bad at all I'll take that all day. I haven't tried Rosen method before so that might be another thing I gotta check out.

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Rosin is great for turning that half melt and no melt stuff into full melt.

It's just all around great!

If you like our dabs id still press the bubble into rosin.
Im kinda in the same route as you im gonna try doing 1 kg of trim into bubble and then pressing. I usually get between 10 and 15% return on trim for bho, Id expect 8 tp 12% return on a couple of washes of trim and then about 50 to 60% return on rosin. Pretty sure my dabbable yield will be cut in half, but lets see how i like it...
I was on the fence too abt whether or not my bho was purged right but after meeting people with extracting facilities in america at spannabis last year and realizing my method was almost identical when it came to purging (flips and a min of 5 days in the oven), and these peoples extracts tested bellow the 800ppm.. Met some brits who did 11 day purge at like 28 or 29 c. I thought that was pointless cause its just not enough heat to increaves viscosity of oil to allow gas escape.
I think people might inhale more butane doing a few bong rips than there is in an ounce of well purged shatter, i could be talking out my ass tho.

Oh I'm not a huge fan of dabs. Honestly they make me cough so much it's not as enjoyable.

The reason I made qwiso and bho was for the increased strength.

Typically now, when I want to get ridiculously stoned, I'll just eat one of my edibles. Much stronger and last longer then any dab I'll ever take.

What kind of edibles do you make and what process do you use? I'm planning on trying my hand at a hash tincture, maybe some capsules, and doing an e-juice as well but depending on how much I have to play with (will probably use all the trim and sugar leaf, maybe some bud too?) I definitely want to keep some oil or butter on hand. I had a friend who makes Coconut Oil infused: he just slow cooks for like three days. A half o of shake to a tub of oil. It wasn't very potent. Tasted like pot though.

hyroot said:

Yeah when you freeze it. You still want some moisture. So it wil microplane right. Otherwise it wil crumble and goop up at the same time.

I microplane it over natural. r raw parchment. ( target carries natural parchment by the pots and pans section)

Then let it dry at cold temps for about week +/- . Then jar up and cure for a week before dabbing.

You can use any brand of fine or zester grater. The microplanes are a higher quality and last longer. The cheap graters will dull out pretty fast. My microplane last about year. Making ice wax 1-4 times a month.


Also make sure to wear nitrile gloves when you do everything. Skin oils degrade trichomes

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Just got a micro plane Zester for my birthday like moments after reading that post. Brand new. It won't be zesting any lemons lets just say that.

With the little bit of kief I get out of my grinders eevery other week or so would it be beneficial to micro plane it and let it dry in the freezer for pressing it. I never tried to dab kief before but it actually does really well. I use a Quartz banger that may Be why. Would that improve its quality or its "dab-ability"